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Compression Shorts

  • 15-06-2010 8:32pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,087 ✭✭✭


    Any recos on a good brand to provide some protection and accelerated recovery from my hip flexor injury?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,762 ✭✭✭✭ecoli


    Penny's in Dundrum have cheap pairs going i found them great


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6 lazarus_


    if you want protection and accelerated recovery... the two most successful providers of these features are CWX and SKINS both have a very highly technical and comfortable short which is truly efficient in its purpose. I would recommend CWX for the hip flexor injury.

    To try expect them benefits from Penneys shorts would be a bit naive to be honest..the words cheap and technical running gear should never cross. If you want some basic spandex which will not even be durable and will provide no successful feature other then cover your legs go to penneys .If you want a purposeful product i would go for either of the above. I tried penneys shorts, and while they are a 'compression short' there quality is dismal even in comparison with rbk and adidas forget the high range products. they are simply not fit for their purpose or yours.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,762 ✭✭✭✭ecoli


    lazarus_ wrote: »
    if you want protection and accelerated recovery... the two most successful providers of these features are CWX and SKINS both have a very highly technical and comfortable short which is truly efficient in its purpose. I would recommend CWX for the hip flexor injury.

    To try expect them benefits from Penneys shorts would be a bit naive to be honest..the words cheap and technical running gear should never cross. If you want some basic spandex which will not even be durable and will provide no successful feature other then cover your legs go to penneys .If you want a purposeful product i would go for either of the above. I tried penneys shorts, and while they are a 'compression short' there quality is dismal even in comparison with rbk and adidas forget the high range products. they are simply not fit for their purpose or yours.


    While they might not be to the standard of the brands you have named i think you are being quite facetious about the benefits of the Penny's. As a compression short they do offer (if some what more inefficient) benefits the do aid in the contraction of muscles to rid the muscles of lactate and offer some support. True the products you have named are prob superior and you pay for that. Regarding durability i bought a couple of pairs at christmas whole the brand name faded fairly quickly the shorts themselves have survived the test of time. In times of recession i think that providing a cheap alternative which similar if not somewhat inferior is not to be disregarded so easily


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,598 ✭✭✭shels4ever


    lazarus_ wrote: »
    if you want protection and accelerated recovery... the two most successful providers of these features are CWX and SKINS both have a very highly technical and comfortable short which is truly efficient in its purpose. I would recommend CWX for the hip flexor injury.

    To try expect them benefits from Penneys shorts would be a bit naive to be honest..the words cheap and technical running gear should never cross. If you want some basic spandex which will not even be durable and will provide no successful feature other then cover your legs go to penneys .If you want a purposeful product i would go for either of the above. I tried penneys shorts, and while they are a 'compression short' there quality is dismal even in comparison with rbk and adidas forget the high range products. they are simply not fit for their purpose or yours.

    Well talk of recovery by someone call lazarus you have my vote there :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6 lazarus_


    First off e-coli : facetious means humorous, if you realize this, i would appreciate if you explained how a serious response from a technical standpoint provided with facts based on the components of the shorts is 'humorous' to you?

    secondly, penneys shorts are 20% lycra and 80% nylon. so for you to claim that they have an aid in compressionary purposes and recovery and muslce contraction is a bit lacking with all respect. there not far off being the same material as a pair of socks at that rate and lack the necessities to aid in recovery and proper compression of muscles during exercise.

    for an athlete who needs these shorts to continue exercising with a hip flexor injury, the best compression shorts possible are a necessity afterall if they can alleviate his injury wouldnt the expense be a lot better then many trips to physio?

    cwx: http://www.gearandtraining.com/gearntrain/product.asp?s_id=0&prod_name=CW%2DX+Pro+Conditioning+Short+Mens&pf_id=28962&dept_id=10090

    skins: http://www.skinsusa.com/index.php/en/mens-products/style-mens/lower-body-mens/sport-men-s-1-2-tights.html

    these are very reasonably priced highly efficient and purposeful goods which i repeat a 20% lycra 80%nylon short could never provide. In all honesty an injured athlete should not run in a penneys compression short or expect correct muscle compression, anatomical maintenance, recovery aid or injury protection from them

    If your kind enough to read the details of what i provided you will agree with me i hope as i am simply trying to protect an injured athlete from plausible damage and for you to call my post jocular is simply insulting.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,762 ✭✭✭✭ecoli


    lazarus_ wrote: »
    First off e-coli : facetious means humorous, if you realize this, i would appreciate if you explained how a serious response from a technical standpoint provided with facts based on the components of the shorts is 'humorous' to you?

    secondly, penneys shorts are 20% lycra and 80% nylon. so for you to claim that they have an aid in compressionary purposes and recovery and muslce contraction is a bit lacking with all respect. there not far off being the same material as a pair of socks at that rate and lack the necessities to aid in recovery and proper compression of muscles during exercise.

    for an athlete who needs these shorts to continue exercising with a hip flexor injury, the best compression shorts possible are a necessity afterall if they can alleviate his injury wouldnt the expense be a lot better then many trips to physio?


    cwx: http://www.gearandtraining.com/gearntrain/product.asp?s_id=0&prod_name=CW%2DX+Pro+Conditioning+Short+Mens&pf_id=28962&dept_id=10090

    skins: http://www.skinsusa.com/index.php/en/mens-products/style-mens/lower-body-mens/sport-men-s-1-2-tights.html

    these are very reasonably priced highly efficient and purposeful goods which i repeat a 20% lycra 80%nylon short could never provide. In all honesty an injured athlete should not run in a penneys compression short or expect correct muscle compression, anatomical maintenance, recovery aid or injury protection from them

    If your kind enough to read the details of what i provided you will agree with me i hope as i am simply trying to protect an injured athlete from plausible damage and for you to call my post jocular is simply insulting.

    Okay facetious was perhaps the wrong word to use in this incidence and as a previously said i agree that these may in fact be the most efficient in terms of compete with the brands you have named to disregard them as giving any benefits at all is not an accurate picture.
    You say that they would not even compare to the comparisons with that of adidas or nike yet if we take a comparison with nike pro we see that the lycra content is actually higher than that of the Nike pro gear by over 4%. My point was not to attack your advice (like i said it is probably the most superior) but there are cheaper options also which will provide some benefit


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 116 ✭✭sean_84


    lazarus_ wrote: »
    First off e-coli : facetious means humorous, if you realize this, i would appreciate if you explained how a serious response from a technical standpoint provided with facts based on the components of the shorts is 'humorous' to you?

    secondly, penneys shorts are 20% lycra and 80% nylon. so for you to claim that they have an aid in compressionary purposes and recovery and muslce contraction is a bit lacking with all respect. there not far off being the same material as a pair of socks at that rate and lack the necessities to aid in recovery and proper compression of muscles during exercise.

    for an athlete who needs these shorts to continue exercising with a hip flexor injury, the best compression shorts possible are a necessity afterall if they can alleviate his injury wouldnt the expense be a lot better then many trips to physio?

    cwx: http://www.gearandtraining.com/gearntrain/product.asp?s_id=0&prod_name=CW%2DX+Pro+Conditioning+Short+Mens&pf_id=28962&dept_id=10090

    skins: http://www.skinsusa.com/index.php/en/mens-products/style-mens/lower-body-mens/sport-men-s-1-2-tights.html

    these are very reasonably priced highly efficient and purposeful goods which i repeat a 20% lycra 80%nylon short could never provide. In all honesty an injured athlete should not run in a penneys compression short or expect correct muscle compression, anatomical maintenance, recovery aid or injury protection from them


    The cwx link says that they are made from 80% Coolmax (which is polyester). I'd guess the other 20% is lycra.

    Different brands might have more compression, different fit etc. but these factors aren't controlled by price concerns. It's still just polyester or nylon and lycra, which are all cheap.

    Expensive brands (whether fashion or "technical") may have nicer designs, should have better quality control (in terms of fewer loose stitches, and more consistent sizing etc.) and definitely have better marketing campaigns ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,692 ✭✭✭Dublin_Gunner


    sean_84 wrote: »
    The cwx link says that they are made from 80% Coolmax (which is polyester). I'd guess the other 20% is lycra.

    Different brands might have more compression, different fit etc. but these factors aren't controlled by price concerns. It's still just polyester or nylon and lycra, which are all cheap.

    Expensive brands (whether fashion or "technical") may have nicer designs, should have better quality control (in terms of fewer loose stitches, and more consistent sizing etc.) and definitely have better marketing campaigns ;)


    The actual design of the compressive short must be taken into account also.

    If it was merely the materials used, you'd have every half-a$$ed company selling them for €5.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,584 ✭✭✭✭tunney


    Any links to research that includes Penny's shorts in the samples?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,087 ✭✭✭BeepBeep67


    Didn't realise I'd get such passionate responses, but I appreciate them.
    I have serveral pairs of Nike, Mizuno, etc Lycra shorts, but feel I need something more technical and with more support.
    I've just researched the CW-X and they seem to get good reviews and look like they are in stock in Irish Fit - so I'm dropping a bit hint to the OH for Father's day.
    Any other feedback or user based experience is grateful.

    Dom


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 116 ✭✭sean_84


    The actual design of the compressive short must be taken into account also.

    If it was merely the materials used, you'd have every half-a$$ed company selling them for €5.

    I don't know how much the ones in Penny's are, but I've seen them in Aldi for about €8 I think.

    I'm not trying to argue that the Penny's ones are as good as more expensive ones, just that they are not necessarily worse because of the price. I'd say they're all manufactured by third parties anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,584 ✭✭✭✭tunney


    sean_84 wrote: »
    I don't know how much the ones in Penny's are, but I've seen them in Aldi for about €8 I think.

    I'm not trying to argue that the Penny's ones are as good as more expensive ones, just that they are not necessarily worse because of the price. I'd say they're all manufactured by third parties anyway.

    I've used many of the higher priced shorts and tights. Even at the higher prices there are wildly different designs, materials and results.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,692 ✭✭✭Dublin_Gunner


    sean_84 wrote: »
    I don't know how much the ones in Penny's are, but I've seen them in Aldi for about €8 I think.

    I'm not trying to argue that the Penny's ones are as good as more expensive ones, just that they are not necessarily worse because of the price. I'd say they're all manufactured by third parties anyway.


    I didn't actually focus on the price. I focused on the fact that the design makes as much, if not more a difference than the material.

    I was merely stating if they were that simple and plain to make and work, every company would be making them for cheap.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,549 ✭✭✭✭Krusty_Clown


    I was merely stating if they were that simple and plain to make and work, every company would be making them for cheap.
    I would imagine that every company does make them for cheap. Some companies just sell them for more. The cost rflects the R&D that went into the design and research, and the marketing budget.

    Not saying that they're all made equally, just that they're all manufactured cheaply.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,340 ✭✭✭TFBubendorfer


    I have Skins and Aldi ones in my cupboard, and there is no doubt that the Skins are much more effective. They also cost about 8 times as much.

    I would not dismiss the cheap ones completely, if your money does not stretch that far then they are clearly the better option. But there is no doubt that you will need to spend more if you want the best products. A lot more, in that case.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11 cowen4life


    im coming back from a groin injury and i was going to buy Coretection shorts online which seem to be really good until i found Skins shorts half price in elverys the other day so i decided to buy them anyway and they are very good. i honestly wasnt expecting them to offer as much support as they do. I have used other brands before and none of them compare to skins.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,134 ✭✭✭boccy23


    I'm not sure about the injury prevention of shorts, but I use them as a chafe reducer for longer runs, 1 hour+

    I got Canterbury and Adidas from mandmdirect.com.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 175 ✭✭jmdsk


    What about the 2xu shorts? I find them very good. Also use the skins.


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