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What to do if pulled in by gaurds

  • 15-06-2010 9:21am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 838 ✭✭✭Wats_in_a_name


    Probably a stupid question but lets say the guards pull you in on the N11 would you pull into the bus lane or what?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,451 ✭✭✭blastman


    I was heading north on the M1 last night just past the airport and there was a car pulled over by the cops who were parked just behind, blue lights flashing. The only thing was they were pulled in on the central reservation :rolleyes: I wouldn't be inclined to recommend this option.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,361 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    yes i would have no problem pulling into a bus lane if instructed by the guards, unless of course theres a lay by within a short distance that you can pull into or maybe a corner you can turn to get out of the way but sometimes you have no choice. if they flash, and its safe to pull in, pull in!

    LOL at the central reservation, ive seen it before, some people get a freight and just jam on the brakes and stop there and then!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,164 ✭✭✭hobochris




  • Posts: 23,339 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Pull in asap, if they are not happy with where you pulled in they will advise you accordingly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,272 ✭✭✭✭Atomic Pineapple


    kceire wrote: »
    yes i would have no problem pulling into a bus lane if instructed by the guards, unless of course theres a lay by within a short distance that you can pull into or maybe a corner you can turn to get out of the way but sometimes you have no choice. if they flash, and its safe to pull in, pull in!

    LOL at the central reservation, ive seen it before, some people get a freight and just jam on the brakes and stop there and then!!

    It was on crime call a couple of months ago where the Gardai put the sirens on when they noticed a learner driver driving really slow in the overtaking lane of the motorway.

    When they put the lights on the car just stopped completely in the overtaking lane and then tried to pull over across the driving lane while cars coming at 120km/h had to undertake and swerve to avoid them!

    Shocking stuff :eek:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,957 ✭✭✭Hooch


    draffodx wrote: »
    It was on crime call a couple of months ago where the Gardai put the sirens on when they noticed a learner driver driving really slow in the overtaking lane of the motorway.

    When they put the lights on the car just stopped completely in the overtaking lane and then tried to pull over across the driving lane while cars coming at 120km/h had to undertake and swerve to avoid them!

    Shocking stuff :eek:

    I have had this more than once!!! (It was the only good part of Traffic Blues to show this on the M50 with the Landcruiser (which has more blue lights than coppers do in the club) and the car still didnt move)

    Was on an ambo escort once and coming in by City west a driver stuck his vehicle to the road in the far right overtaking lane:eek::eek:

    And I bet he thought the Garda was very rude for some reason......driving by roaring out the window (nice polite advice of course)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,957 ✭✭✭Hooch


    Probably a stupid question but lets say the guards pull you in on the N11 would you pull into the bus lane or what?

    And to answer your question. Left ALWAYS. As far and as safely as you can. Do NOT slam on the breaks of stop hard......break down the speed slowely and come to a stop if needed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,092 ✭✭✭celticbest


    Just pull left once save to do so, it the Gards want you to stop then do it ASAP so as not to annoy them.....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,897 ✭✭✭MagicSean


    kceire wrote: »
    yes i would have no problem pulling into a bus lane if instructed by the guards, unless of course theres a lay by within a short distance that you can pull into or maybe a corner you can turn to get out of the way but sometimes you have no choice. if they flash, and its safe to pull in, pull in!

    LOL at the central reservation, ive seen it before, some people get a freight and just jam on the brakes and stop there and then!!

    Some people shouldn't be driving. The current driving test doesn't test their ability to cope with the unexpected. People are way to eager to get out of the learner permit stage and pass the test. So can you have a situation where they are good enough to pass a test (thanks to pretest routes) but have little experience of driving on the other roads.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 221 ✭✭pitkan


    I am in agreement with Rover James. Pull in as soon as it is safe to do so. Remember,that`s what they want you to do.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,434 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    If you have to ask such a question then you shouldn't be driving.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 838 ✭✭✭Wats_in_a_name


    I know you have to pull in as soon as possible but was wondering is a bus lane acceptable as you would be blocking it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,396 ✭✭✭Tefral


    If you have to ask such a question then you shouldn't be driving.

    You are joking right?

    The op had the sense to ask here rather than find out the hard way on the open road. If only other drivers did the same before blindly taking to the road and causing accidents.

    Remember the saying " there are no stupid questions only stupid answers"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 465 ✭✭bada_bing


    just wondering, if you are pulled in and the guards are undercover, do you have the right ask them for their id? Can they give someone penalty points without even proving who they are to the person that they've stopped??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,237 ✭✭✭✭djimi


    bada_bing wrote: »
    just wondering, if you are pulled in and the guards are undercover, do you have the right ask them for their id? Can they give someone penalty points without even proving who they are to the person that they've stopped??

    Of course you do; otherwise they could be just anyone impersonating a guard! Same goes even if they are not undercover. Theyre supposed to present their ID when they stop you, but if they dont then it should be the first thing you ask to see.

    As for the penalty points, Im not sure how legally it stands if they dont properly identify themselves, but given that it would ultimately come down to their word against yours... (unless you had an incar recording or something to prove otherwise)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,815 ✭✭✭✭Anan1


    bada_bing wrote: »
    just wondering, if you are pulled in and the guards are undercover, do you have the right ask them for their id?
    Absolutely.
    bada_bing wrote: »
    Can they give someone penalty points without even proving who they are to the person that they've stopped??
    Look at it this way, if they're not Gardaí then you won't be getting points.;)


  • Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,631 ✭✭✭✭antodeco


    If they are undercover, they won't pull you over. If they are unmarked, you are entitled to stop in a public area or nearest Garda station. It's better to explain to a Garda you were unsure, then to have your car nicked by some scummer with blue strobes...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 89 ✭✭Starburst85


    Bada bing I'd defo ask for ID...especially with the crazy car owners on our roads...You would'nt know who was pulling you over!! :eek:

    There should be hidden camera's on some roads to catch the dodgy road ragers


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 89 ✭✭Starburst85


    Oh and with regards on where to pull over...any were it is safe to do so bus lane, hard shoulder etc...I was on a bus once and the guards had stopped a car in the bus lane...the bus just drove around them :)


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 17,861 Mod ✭✭✭✭Henry Ford III


    bada_bing wrote: »
    just wondering, if you are pulled in and the guards are undercover, do you have the right ask them for their id? Can they give someone penalty points without even proving who they are to the person that they've stopped??

    No worries on that score.

    They may be in plain clothes, but have to wear their uniform hats to make everything kosher ;)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,092 ✭✭✭celticbest


    Anan1 wrote: »
    Absolutely.Look at it this way, if they're not Gardaí then you won't be getting points.;)

    Too True...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,093 ✭✭✭✭Esel
    Not Your Ornery Onager


    They may be in plain clothes, but have to wear their uniform hats to make everything kosher ;)
    And if you're pregnant, they have to let you pee in it if you ask. :pac:

    Not your ornery onager



  • Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Jasiah Scarce String


    antodeco wrote: »
    If they are undercover, they won't pull you over. If they are unmarked, you are entitled to stop in a public area or nearest Garda station. It's better to explain to a Garda you were unsure, then to have your car nicked by some scummer with blue strobes...

    I have to admit as a female driving alone I wouldn't be too inclined to stop unless they were in the garda car. No idea who could be pulling you over. They surely couldn't get annoyed at that?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,815 ✭✭✭✭Anan1


    bluewolf wrote: »
    I have to admit as a female driving alone I wouldn't be too inclined to stop unless they were in the garda car. No idea who could be pulling you over. They surely couldn't get annoyed at that?
    Any time i've ever been pulled it's always been pretty obvious they were Gardaí - either an unmarked car with strobes, antennae etc or, if it was a private car, they'd pull alongside when stationary and flash the badge. If you're nervous, you could always pull over and keep the doors locked until you see ID. BTW, when driving unmarked cars they're generally wearing at least part of a uniform.;)


  • Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Jasiah Scarce String


    Anan1 wrote: »
    Any time i've ever been pulled it's always been pretty obvious they were Gardaí - either an unmarked car with strobes, antennae etc or, if it was a private car, they'd pull alongside when stationary and flash the badge. If you're nervous, you could always pull over and keep the doors locked until you see ID. BTW, when driving unmarked cars they're generally wearing at least part of a uniform.;)

    Ah right - from the way people were talking it was unmarked no uniform. Maybe that's alright then :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,815 ✭✭✭✭Anan1


    bluewolf wrote: »
    Ah right - from the way people were talking it was unmarked no uniform. Maybe that's alright then :D
    To attract the attention of an off-duty Garda in their private car takes a bit of effort - the last time I managed it was by flashing them out of the overtaking lane on the M50 at 105mph.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,267 ✭✭✭concussion


    Anan1 wrote: »
    BTW, when driving unmarked cars they're generally wearing at least part of a uniform.;)

    Hi-vis underpants??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 586 ✭✭✭SC024


    Absolutely brilliant:) What happened?

    Anan1 wrote: »
    To attract the attention of an off-duty Garda in their private car takes a bit of effort - the last time I managed it was by flashing them out of the overtaking lane on the M50 at 105mph.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,815 ✭✭✭✭Anan1


    I was in the left lane, empty road, came upon a lone Megane in the overtaking lane. Rather than undertake, I moved into the overtaking lane in good time and gave a quick courtesy flash. No move from the Megane, as I closed in I saw that the driver was on the phone. I gave another, longer, flash, he moved out of my way and I passed. Pulled off at my exit, came to a roundabout and stopped, Megane came alongside. I looked at the driver, male, late 40s, he flashed the badge, we both ran down our windows. I apologised immediately. Asked me where I was going, I told him. 'Could you pull in wherever's convenient for yourself, i'd like to have a little chat with you about your driving'. I pulled in up the road, got out, apologised again. He pretty much said out straight that attitude was important to him, and that even though I had been speeding he was happy on this occasion to leave it at a warning. Given that he was a.) a Garda, b.) armed, and c.) being pretty nice about the whole thing, I felt it would have been bad manners on my part to mention that he had been blocking the overtaking lane.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,301 ✭✭✭Flesh Gorden


    Anan1 wrote: »
    flashing them out of the overtaking lane on the M50 at 105mph.
    Anan1 wrote: »
    even though I had been speeding he was happy on this occasion to leave it at a warning.

    Well you deserved a lot worse for driving like a complete tool flashing anyone, regardless if they're off duty garda or not


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,815 ✭✭✭✭Anan1


    Well you deserved a lot worse for driving like a complete tool flashing anyone, regardless if they're off duty garda or not
    Of course I did, and i'm very sorry.


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