RTE & Trevor Steven

Andrew Flexing

While I am a big fan of RTE's soccer coverage...I had to switch off the USA v England match as the commentary by Steven being so biased towards his beloved England. As we are neither American nor British I feel the commentary must be unbiased. I was cheering on the States. Hearing him talk about what the English team must do every time he opened his gob I got annoyed at his one sided view.

I watched the match on ITV instead, as I at least expected them to be up for their own country.

Hoping RTE do a more unbiased view in future...

Biggins

Soccer section?
TV section?

I know they used to exist sometime!

All world cup related threads should be shoved into its own section, otherwise AH is going to be filled up for the next weeks with this stuff consistently popping up.

UrbanSea

I was lolling at the commentary last night. ITV were saying at points how good the English were,while Rooney was 'getting more and more into the game'.They also felt a draw wasn't a bad result.
Graham Sounnes and Eamonn Dunphy thought it was disasterous. am I theonly person that enjoys listening to Dunphy?

Andrew Flexing

Andrew Flexing wrote: »

While I am a big fan of RTE's soccer coverage...I had to switch off the USA v England match as the commentary by Steven being so biased towards his beloved England. As we are neither American nor British I feel the commentary must be unbiased. I was cheering on the States. Hearing him talk about what the English team must do every time he opened his gob I got annoyed at his one sided view.

I watched the match on ITV instead, as I at least expected them to be up for their own country.

Hoping RTE do a more unbiased view in future...

You complain about English bias but then switch to ITV

Kev_ps3

rarnes1 wrote: »

You complain about English bias but then switch to ITV

RTE - Irish channel, ITV English channel. Big difference:rolleyes:

Diabhal Beag

How could you mention Trevor Stevens and not mention him failing at blowing on the vuvuzela

Kev_ps3

Kev_ps3 wrote: »

RTE - Irish channel, ITV English channel. Big difference:rolleyes:

No shít !!

Here's a rolly back :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Andrew Flexing

@Dibhal Beag; Bill O' Herlihy's reaction to that was priceless!

"I wish the other 48,000 fans were like him!"

yosemite_sam

greetings wrote: »

I was lolling at the commentary last night. ITV were saying at points how good the English were,while Rooney was 'getting more and more into the game'.They also felt a draw wasn't a bad result.
Graham Sounnes and Eamonn Dunphy thought it was disasterous. am I theonly person that enjoys listening to Dunphy?

Sounues is the only person who is worth listening to, the rest are people who can only imagine what it is like to be a top player

gooch2k9

Yerra RTE is great for the banter between dunphy and 'Senior Analyst Giles'!

Andrew Flexing

yosemite_sam wrote: »

Sounues is the only person who is worth listening to, the rest are people who can only imagine what it is like to be a top player

eh...Giles was a top player.

yosemite_sam

Andrew Flexing wrote: »

eh...Giles was a top player.

Disagree, I feel you have to have won the European Cup to be regarded as a top player

Mint Sauce

greetings wrote: »

I was lolling at the commentary last night. ITV were saying at points how good the English were,while Rooney was 'getting more and more into the game'.They also felt a draw wasn't a bad result.
Graham Sounnes and Eamonn Dunphy thought it was disasterous. am I theonly person that enjoys listening to Dunphy?

the irish panal says it as it is, they can almost say what they like about the none irish sides, beceause unless you your watching rte online or have an irish sky card, your not going to hear it, they have no backlash to fear

the english panal, now have splinters from sitting on the fence from the fear of saying something offencive or negative

Kev_ps3

yosemite_sam wrote: »

Disagree, I feel you have to have won the European Cup to be regarded as a top player

:rolleyes:
nonsense

Mint Sauce

yosemite_sam wrote: »

Sounues is the only person who is worth listening to, the rest are people who can only imagine what it is like to be a top player

he is only worth listening to so we can hear dunphy insult him 'baby'

Shane St.

ah hes decent commentator

danbohan

yosemite_sam wrote: »

Disagree, I feel you have to have won the European Cup to be regarded as a top player

alan shearer, roy keane , etc not top players either ?, go back to sleep!

parker kent

yosemite_sam wrote: »

Disagree, I feel you have to have won the European Cup to be regarded as a top player

I've never said this before but....IBTL

Plus what a load of crap. Giles did play in a European Cup Final which Leeds very harshly lost. Plus a Cup Winners Cup final loss that is now regarded as being fixed by AC Milan. Maradona never won a European Cup. Crap wasn't he? :rolleyes:

Anyway, Trevor Steven was not remotely biased. He regularly said how bad England were playing. Just because he has an English accent does not mean he was biased.

Mint Sauce

<gets popcorn>

yosemite_sam

danbohan wrote: »

alan shearer, roy keane , etc not top players either ?, go back to sleep!

Keane did not play in the final, but he did get a medal. Shearer followed his heart Bless

yosemite_sam

parker kent wrote: »

I've never said this before but....IBTL

Plus what a load of crap. Giles did play in a European Cup Final which Leeds very harshly lost. Plus a Cup Winners Cup final loss that is now regarded as being fixed by AC Milan. Maradona never won a European Cup. Crap wasn't he? :rolleyes:

Anyway, Trevor Steven was not remotely biased. He regularly said how bad England were playing. Just because he has an English accent does not mean he was biased.

I thought Maradona won a World Cup, that makes him THE top player

Nodin

parker kent wrote: »

Anyway, Trevor Steven was not remotely biased. He regularly said how bad England were playing. Just because he has an English accent does not mean he was biased.

No his criticism of the surface and the grass that appeared suddenly in the second half were totally valid.


No, really, they were.

parker kent

yosemite_sam wrote: »

I thought Maradona won a World Cup, that makes him THE top player

You said winning a European Cup makes somebody a top player. You did not mention World Cups. I was throwing your poor logic back at you.

parker kent

Nodin wrote: »

No his criticism of the surface and the grass that appeared suddenly in the second half were totally valid.


No, really, they were.

He actually said that England should have had no problems playing on that surface. He specifically said the pitch was not a problem.

yosemite_sam

parker kent wrote: »

You said winning a European Cup makes somebody a top player. You did not mention World Cups. I was throwing your poor logic back at you.

Well it does, they win their domestic League and then go on and beat the best of the European Leagues. In saying that the Champions League is not a pure competition as you no longer have to be a Champion to enter, as a result the winners are somewhat comprimised

parker kent

yosemite_sam wrote: »

Well it does, they win their domestic League and then go on and beat the best of the European Leagues. In saying that the Champions League is not a pure competition as you no longer have to be a Champion to enter, as a result the winners are somewhat comprimised

So Djimi Traore > Maradona? And Dida > Buffon? Sorry but you are making an awful argument about deciding the merits of top players.

The modern format could be debated all day. The old format was harder to qualify for, but it could also lead to a far easier route to the final. In 77 Liverpool played Crusaders (from Northern Ireland), Trabzonspor of Turkey, Saint-Étienne (a decent team), FC Zürich in the semis and Borussia Mönchengladbach (another decent team) in the final. Not exactly a hard route to the final.

yosemite_sam

parker kent wrote: »

So Djimi Traore > Maradona? And Dida > Buffon? Sorry but you are making an awful argument about deciding the merits of top players.

The modern format could be debated all day. The old format was harder to qualify for, but it could also lead to a far easier route to the final. In 77 Liverpool played Crusaders (from Northern Ireland), Trabzonspor of Turkey, Saint-Étienne (a decent team), FC Zürich in the semis and Borussia Mönchengladbach (another decent team) in the final. Not exactly a hard route to the final.

But they were all Champions were`nt they!

parker kent

yosemite_sam wrote: »

But they were all Champions were`nt they!

So playing Crusaders who were champions is harder than playing Real Madrid who might have finished second in La Liga? :rolleyes: Honestly this is going nowhere so I give up.

Bob the Seducer

yosemite_sam wrote: »

Disagree, I feel you have to have won the European Cup to be regarded as a top player

So by that measure, Pelé is not a top player? :rolleyes:

Trevor Steven is our main English pundit and a former England international, of course he's going to be biased towards England. I expect Hamann and Ardiles will be biased towards their respective countries too.

(Edit: wait... why is this in AH?)

yosemite_sam

Bob the Seducer wrote: »

So by that measure, Pelé is not a top player? :rolleyes:

Trevor Steven is our main English pundit and a former England international, of course he's going to be biased towards England. I expect Hamann and Ardiles will be biased towards their respective countries too.

Pelè never played for a European club did he?

Micky Dolenz

Soccer talk hurts my brain. Ye know where to take it.