Question

sellerbarry

A certified pothead once said to me when I was driving and she was in the passenger seat and there was a fly hovering between us,

"Shouldn't this fly be at the back of the car since the car is moving forward?"

Explain.

Biggins

Aaaa WOT!!!

I think not - as the fly is working with present wind currents within the car and at the lack of velocity of the said internal air, I don't think it would make a blind bit of difference.

Throw a pen (or anything) into the air upwards in a travelling car - does it fly backwards unless you particularly chuck it that way? No.

prinz

sellerbarry wrote: »

A certified pothead once said to me when I was driving and she was in the passenger seat and there was a fly hovering between us,"Shouldn't this fly be at the back of the car since the car is moving forward?"
Explain.

Unless you had the window open or aircon on then the air inside the car isn't moving.

Captain Chaos

Sure we're moving at about 20,000mph as it is, yet we are still. It's all about relativity. If you threw a ball out your car window while driving at 50kph, the ball would hit someone at 50kph plus the speed you threw it at to get it out of the car if they were standing on the path.

easyeason3

I imagine you had a windscreen & windows in the car at the time so I don't see why the fly should be in the back.

However I do hope you had a seatbelt for him, safety first, pondering later.

SeaFields

prinz wrote: »

Unless you had the window open or aircon on then the air inside the car isn't moving.

With G-force tho the fly, if it didn't move of its own accord, would end up at the back of the car me thinks but am open to correction

dezzyd

sellerbarry wrote: »

A certified pothead once said to me when I was driving and she was in the passenger seat and there was a fly hovering between us,

"Shouldn't this fly be at the back of the car since the car is moving forward?"

Explain.

Are you sure "she" is the pothead??

Captain Chaos

SeaFields wrote: »

With G-force tho the fly, if it didn't move of its own accord, would end up at the back of the car me thinks but am open to correction

If you are on a plane doing 400mph and you stand up and jump, do you end up at the back of the plane? Same thing.

Pacing Mule

The movement of the car has it's own gravity.

brummytom

Wasn't that one of those excuses people used for speeding a few months ago? 'There was a fly in the front of the car so I sped up to get it to the back' or something?

bazmaiden

Question...




Where can I find these certificates?

sellerbarry

If you're in a falling elevator and jump just before it hits the bottom. Would you be okay?;)

Biggins

bazmaiden wrote: »

Question...

Where can I find these certificates?

Israel - I hear they are good at printing all kinds of things lately.

SeaFields

Captain Chaos wrote: »

If you are on a plane doing 400mph and you stand up and jump, do you end up at the back of the plane? Same thing.

I didn't mean it was instant but it would happen eventually. Like when you go round a corner and the air freshner hanging off your mirror tilts slightly in the opposite direction.

Pacing Mule

sellerbarry wrote: »

If you're in a falling elevator and jump just before it hits the bottom. Would you be okay?;)

No - mythbusters have that one covered !

sellerbarry

SeaFields wrote: »

I didn't mean it was instant but it would happen eventually. Like when you go round a corner and the air freshner hanging off your mirror tilts slightly in the opposite direction.

Now we're getting somewhere.;)

easyeason3

SeaFields wrote: »

With G-force tho the fly, if it didn't move of its own accord, would end up at the back of the car me thinks but am open to correction

More importantly: Why can't you kill a fly with the first, or indeed, tenth swipe of a newspaper?
The bastards are part ninja if you think about it.

Biggins

SeaFields wrote: »

I didn't mean it was instant but it would happen eventually. Like when you go round a corner and the air freshner hanging off your mirror tilts slightly in the opposite direction.

Thats because the freshener is actually connected to something that is generating a central-fugal force as it moves. A fly doesn't.
Its present within its own space, be it stable, moving on its own accord or being blowed along by an external (connection) catalyst.

Captain Chaos

SeaFields wrote: »

I didn't mean it was instant but it would happen eventually. Like when you go round a corner and the air freshner hanging off your mirror tilts slightly in the opposite direction.

That is G force. It's a different mechanic and not a car type.;) Thats the same as tieing a string to a bucket of water, if you swing it hard and fast enough you can swing it over your head without spilling a drop.

sellerbarry

easyeason3 wrote: »

More importantly: Why can't you kill a fly with the first, or indeed, tenth swipe of a newspaper?
The bastards are part ninja if you think about it.

Speaking of flies. I made myself a flytrap the other day. Sick of em buzzing around. Not one in the house now .:D

SeaFields

I was only hazarding a guess with me zero physics knowledge. Bollocks anyway Sorry you guys!

easyeason3

sellerbarry wrote: »

Speaking of flies. I made myself a flytrap the other day. Sick of em buzzing around. Not one in the house now .:D

Flytrap??? How????

sellerbarry

easyeason3 wrote: »

Flytrap??? How????

Get a 2 litre coke/7up bottle.
Cut about an inch down from where it bends to the top.
Mix half a cup of sugar with half a cup of white vinegar and one cup of water.
Pour into bottom part of bottle.
Invert top part of bottle and shove it into bottom part. stick with tape so it doesn't come out.
Leave outside your back door or hang outside somewhere.
Dynamite stuff. They're like lambs to the slaughter.
They go in, but are too stupid to find way out. Then they drown.;)

sellerbarry

If you need one for inside.
Half fill a small bowl or dish with white vinegar.
Wrap with cling film.
Puncture a few holes in top. Just big enough for them to get in.
Job done.
Empty every night. Gets a bit full.;)

And they're odour free for pets etc...............

easyeason3

sellerbarry wrote: »

If you need one for inside.
Half fill a small bowl or dish with white vinegar.
Wrap with cling film.
Puncture a few holes in top. Just big enough for them to get in.
Job done.
Empty every night. Gets a bit full.;)

And they're odour free for pets etc...............

I think I love you! Thanks, thats great , ill be giving it a run tomorrow.
Ninja fly won't beat this!

SugarHigh

The air density inside the car has the same inertia as the car. If the density of the fly is greater than that of the air then he will be moved towards the back window. A helium balloon would move forward in an accellerating car because its density is less than that of the air in the car.

ascanbe

easyeason3 wrote: »

More importantly: Why can't you kill a fly with the first, or indeed, tenth swipe of a newspaper?
The bastards are part ninja if you think about it.

Fly's process visual information about 10 times faster than humans, though with very poor definition.

rainbowdrop

easyeason3 wrote: »

I think I love you! Thanks, thats great , ill be giving it a run tomorrow.
Ninja fly won't beat this!

+1

I fawking hates flies. Will let ye all know if it works......

easyeason3

ascanbe wrote: »

Fly's process visual information about 10 times faster than humans, though with very poor definition.

They can still dodge a rolled up newspaper though. I chased a fecker for ages today because I didn't want to have an afternoon nap in case he flew into my mouth.
And my afternoon nap isn't my afternoon nap unless it's in the sitting room stretched off on the couch.
The ****er upset my day :mad:

sellerbarry

rainbowdrop wrote: »

+1

I fawking hates flies. Will let ye all know if it works......

Make sure you use white vinegar and not the dark stuff.
GL

ascanbe

easyeason3 wrote: »

They can still dodge a rolled up newspaper though. I chased a fecker for ages today because I didn't want to have an afternoon nap in case he flew into my mouth.
And my afternoon nap isn't my afternoon nap unless it's in the sitting room stretched off on the couch.
The ****er upset my day :mad:

Yeah. When you're attempting to swat them with a newspaper at great speed, as it seems to you, what they see, essentially, is a heavily pixalated thing moving towards them very slowly.

sellerbarry

ascanbe wrote: »

Yeah. When you're attempting to swat them with a newspaper at great speed, as it seems to you, what they see, essentially, is a heavily pixalated thing moving towards them very slowly.

Use a spray bottle with a few drops of wash up liquid in it. Its like glue to them. Spray em once and watch em suffer.;)

IM0

easyeason3 wrote: »

They can still dodge a rolled up newspaper though. I chased a fecker for ages today because I didn't want to have an afternoon nap in case he flew into my mouth.
And my afternoon nap isn't my afternoon nap unless it's in the sitting room stretched off on the couch.
The ****er upset my day :mad:

you have to master the method of a brue lee type punch, as soon as you swing your newpaper the fly sees it coming before you realise your even close to it. If you do it with a reflex style slap down, it squashes him before he knows whats happening! -its also way more satisfying this way :cool:

jiltloop

easyeason3 wrote: »

They can still dodge a rolled up newspaper though. I chased a fecker for ages today because I didn't want to have an afternoon nap in case he flew into my mouth.
And my afternoon nap isn't my afternoon nap unless it's in the sitting room stretched off on the couch.
The ****er upset my day :mad:

I don't know why this works but it does.... wait till the fly lands on a wall or some other surface, then slowly move your index finger towards it but rotate your finger using circular motions while bringing it closer to the fly, for some reason most of the time the bugger won't budge at all, then the next step is to squish it with your finger!
Its a little messy but seriously try it a few times, it works!

VinnyTGM

SeaFields wrote: »

I didn't mean it was instant but it would happen eventually. Like when you go round a corner and the air freshner hanging off your mirror tilts slightly in the opposite direction.

Your talking about acceleration with the air freshner.

If you are in a plane and it is traveling steadily at 400 mph and you jump you will remain in the same spot in the plane, whereas if you jump while the plane is accelerating during take-off you will land in a different spot, ie the back of the plane.

jd007

sellerbarry wrote: »

A certified pothead once said to me when I was driving and she was in the passenger seat and there was a fly hovering between us,

"Shouldn't this fly be at the back of the car since the car is moving forward?"

Explain.

My cats breath smells like cat food

neil_

VinnyTGM wrote: »

If you are in a plane and it is traveling steadily at 400 mph and you jump you will remain in the same spot in the plane, whereas if you jump while the plane is accelerating during take-off you will land in a different spot, ie the back of the plane.

In fact I believe you would hit the roof.