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Kids walking the wall

  • 12-06-2010 1:37pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,578 ✭✭✭


    Sorry to start a new thread i thought there was one before but couldnt find it.

    Anyone else fed up with the kids walking the walls? Challenged some kids last Sunday and an 11 year old started to give me mouth, which was nice. Thankfully my wife shoed me in before i lost it. Apparently my neighbour saw older kids mid week at 11.30pm walking the wall again. Not sure what to do cos i dont want to end up with grief from mouthy lil bleep bleep bleep kids or the victim of burglary. 11.30 at night is more than kids just cutting through.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 970 ✭✭✭dr ro


    which wall are you talking about. You are right about not challenging them at your house though, you'll probably end up regretting it. Is it a public wall or private, could you slap on some grease or paint or similar. Are they trespassing on private property


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,578 ✭✭✭ciaran67


    dr ro wrote: »
    which wall are you talking about. You are right about not challenging them at your house though, you'll probably end up regretting it. Is it a public wall or private, could you slap on some grease or paint or similar. Are they trespassing on private property

    V big drop at the top mate, don't want to explain that to the gards after greasing :)

    I know kids are having a giggle, we all did it. But not getting taking mouth of some 11 year old again.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19 King_Carlos


    ciaran67 wrote: »
    V big drop at the top mate, don't want to explain that to the gards after greasing :)

    I know kids are having a giggle, we all did it. But not getting taking mouth of some 11 year old again.

    A bucket of cold water over them should do it. Anyone asks sure you were only washing your wall and did not see them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,221 ✭✭✭✭m5ex9oqjawdg2i


    dr ro wrote: »
    which wall are you talking about. You are right about not challenging them at your house though, you'll probably end up regretting it. Is it a public wall or private, could you slap on some grease or paint or similar. Are they trespassing on private property

    An extremely bad suggestion, some kid will get seriously injured with that kind of thinking.

    Ever climb trees or walls when you were a kid OP? Are they causing you any trouble other than walking on the wall? What wall is it by the way? Are they invading your privacy? How did you approach the kids? I doubt the kids gave you lip for nothing. Were you aggressive or confrontational? Are they from the area?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 17 transport


    Best to ignore it and they'll get bored and will go elsewhere...:)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,075 ✭✭✭Rasmus


    What wall is it Ciaran? And are all the kids 11 or is that the youngest one? That's dangerous. If it was me I'd tell them to get their sorry ass*s off my wall or I'd tell their parents. I would hope someone would say that to my son if he climbed their wall.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 452 ✭✭Welsh Wizard


    I doubt the kids gave you lip for nothing.

    Kids give lip for everything and anything these days... Gone are the days when they had manners...
    Knock the wax out of his ear... It'll be good enough for him..

    Oh and let me know if they gang up on you.... :-)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,158 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    what wall?

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,578 ✭✭✭ciaran67


    Kids give lip for everything and anything these days... Gone are the days when they had manners...
    Knock the wax out of his ear... It'll be good enough for him..

    Oh and let me know if they gang up on you.... :-)

    Haha WW. Im going to pop on my 1989 Millwall shirt, that should do it.

    He was the youngest by far, most of them were mid teens... and believe me WW if it hadnt been for my wife i would giving him a right shoeing. He heard my accent and thats what started him off.

    The wall runs along the south end of Charlesland. Theres a large drop in my garden.

    Xavier... have a trolling day off eh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,392 ✭✭✭TequilaMockingBird


    We had the same problem. Once you've given them attention they love it. They'll have you tormented.

    Our corporation tried the anti-climb paint and it was no bother to these kids, so eventually they capped the walls - it worked. Yaay!


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,956 ✭✭✭CHD


    Give an 11 year old a shoeing? Cop on to yourself.

    Act all sound and cool to them and they will soon make a effort to not annoy you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 657 ✭✭✭FirstIn


    Re telling their parents, it could be quite tough to get a hold of them. Are the kids local? If the kids are from across the stream then I wouldn't bother.

    How about taking pictures of them (is this allowed, I guess so). Don't tell them what it is for but make it obvious that you are taking their pictures. They will start guessing why you are doing this and it might put them off doing it again.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 167 ✭✭The Guide


    FirstIn wrote: »
    Are the kids local? If the kids are from across the stream then I wouldn't bother.

    ?????


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,075 ✭✭✭Rasmus


    Ok well if they're teenagers, there's no point in threatening to tell their parents, that won't work! Was trying to think what would have worked on me if I was a teenager - maybe you and your family could just stand in the garden and smile like lunatics, then the kids will just think you're really weird and want to leave.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,578 ✭✭✭ciaran67


    CHD wrote: »
    Give an 11 year old a shoeing? Cop on to yourself.

    Act all sound and cool to them and they will soon make a effort to not annoy you.

    I was joking ffs. Actually just saw him driving along and hes about 14-15 tbh. Anyway i'll sort it if they appear again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,331 ✭✭✭✭loyatemu


    you could attach something to the top of the wall to make it more awkward to walk along - you can buy spikes to discourage pigeons from nesting on your roof, or even a piece of wood or trellis. Not to make them fall off, but to stop them from attempting it in the first place.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,221 ✭✭✭✭m5ex9oqjawdg2i


    Kids give lip for everything and anything these days... Gone are the days when they had manners...
    Knock the wax out of his ear... It'll be good enough for him..

    Oh and let me know if they gang up on you.... :-)

    WTF? I asked a few questions, which you ignored for some reason. How do you equate that to trolling? Easier to give an answer when you know the details. Either way, you should know by now where the report button is. Trolling...? :rolleyes:

    Did you come out and say "Hey guys, if you don't mind could you get off my wall >insert excuse here<" and then they started giving you lip? Did they get aggressive or were they just acting the mick?

    Don't forget ye were kids once too you know.

    If you were confrontational, don't expect respect. If you were aggressive? Expect same. If they are from the area, it may be easier to deal with by going to their parents house and dealing with it in a civilised manner. If they are not causing you any trouble other than walking on your wall, then it might be easier to deal with too. IF they are invading your privacy then you can go to the Gardai about it, if it's that much trouble.

    Suggesting to physically harm them, grease the walls or anything else is not the right way to deal with children, regardless of what you think. Go down that road and expect a lot more trouble.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭bryaner


    WTF? I asked a few questions, which you ignored for some reason. How do you equate that to trolling? Easier to give an answer when you know the details. Either way, you should know by now where the report button is. Trolling...? :rolleyes:

    Did you come out and say "Hey guys, if you don't mind could you get off my wall >insert excuse here<" and then they started giving you lip? Did they get aggressive or were they just acting the mick?

    Don't forget ye were kids once too you know.

    If you were confrontational, don't expect respect. If you were aggressive? Expect same. If they are from the area, it may be easier to deal with by going to their parents house and dealing with it in a civilised manner. If they are not causing you any trouble other than walking on your wall, then it might be easier to deal with too. IF they are invading your privacy then you can go to the Gardai about it, if it's that much trouble.

    Suggesting to physically harm them, grease the walls or anything else is not the right way to deal with children, regardless of what you think. Go down that road and expect a lot more trouble.

    Get real kids these days have no manners (worse again neither do their parents 11 year olds out at 11.30pm at night I don't think so!) grease the wall he will have a long hard think before he gets on it again..


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 949 ✭✭✭maxxie


    get a life!! kids will be kids!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭bryaner


    11 year olds have no place being out at 11.30pm


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,956 ✭✭✭CHD


    ciaran67 wrote: »
    I was joking ffs. Actually just saw him driving along and hes about 14-15 tbh. Anyway i'll sort it if they appear again.
    Cool, but the best way to deal with these people is be nice to them. They dunno what to do then and will avoid doing things that annoy you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,221 ✭✭✭✭m5ex9oqjawdg2i


    bryaner wrote: »
    Get real kids these days have no manners (worse again neither do their parents 11 year olds out at 11.30pm at night I don't think so!) grease the wall he will have a long hard think before he gets on it again..
    bryaner wrote: »
    11 year olds have no place being out at 11.30pm

    Maybe you should read the OP again? Properly this time.
    Apparently my neighbour saw older kids mid week at 11.30pm walking the wall again.

    Where exactly does it say in the OP that an 11 year old kid was out at 11:30pm? It doesn't, you are making assumptions.

    Grease the wall and expect a court case, it's a sensless and wreckless action to take. Kids climb walls, trees and other things. If you don't want them on your wall talk to them in a civilised manner, don't assume they are going to be cheeky. If you don't treat them with some respect then expect to get lip. They are people too, with personalities. Be nice to them and it should be fine, they also have a certain amount of understanding. Being abusive towards them won't get you anywhere.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭bryaner


    Maybe you should read the OP again? Properly this time.



    Where exactly does it say in the OP that an 11 year old kid was out at 11:30pm? It doesn't, you are making assumptions.

    Grease the wall and expect a court case, it's a sensless and wreckless action to take. Kids climb walls, trees and other things. If you don't want them on your wall talk to them in a civilised manner, don't assume they are going to be cheeky. If you don't treat them with some respect then expect to get lip. They are people too, with personalities. Be nice to them and it should be fine, they also have a certain amount of understanding. Being abusive towards them won't get you anywhere.

    Fcuk the little cheeky pricks I'd just get me mates to sort them while
    I looked out the window no court case job done.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,221 ✭✭✭✭m5ex9oqjawdg2i


    bryaner wrote: »
    Fcuk the little cheeky pricks I'd just get me mates to sort them while
    I looked out the window no court case job done.

    :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

    What more can I say. Keyboard warriors are quite laughable, especially when they threaten 11 year old children.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭bryaner


    :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

    What more can I say. Keyboard warriors are quite laughable, especially when they threaten 11 year old children.

    No I just don't roll over for ASB end off, you feel free to let yours roam the
    streets like feral cats!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,670 ✭✭✭✭Wolfe Tone


    Cement some glass onto the wall, buy an Alsatian, sorted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭bryaner


    MUSSOLINI wrote: »
    Cement some glass onto the wall, buy an Alsatian, sorted.

    Correcto


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,221 ✭✭✭✭m5ex9oqjawdg2i


    bryaner wrote: »
    No I just don't roll over for ASB end off, you feel free to let yours roam the
    streets like feral cats!

    What's ASB? Nobody is asking anybody to roll over for anything. You have your kids on a leash do you?

    MUSSOLINI, wrong, prepare yourself for some legal action if you want to travel down that road ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,670 ✭✭✭✭Wolfe Tone


    What's ASB? Nobody is asking anybody to roll over for anything. You have your kids on a leash do you?

    MUSSOLINI, wrong, prepare yourself for some legal action if you want to travel down that road ;)
    Ok, might as well go the whole hog then, buy a shotgun. Sorted.


    An Alsatian would work wonders though.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭bryaner


    What's ASB? Nobody is asking anybody to roll over for anything. You have your kids on a leash do you?

    MUSSOLINI, wrong, prepare yourself for some legal action if you want to travel down that road ;)

    Bugger off back to your civil liberties do gooder buddies

    If you don't know what ASB is well that sums it up!

    And I didn't see anyone putting glass on the wall.

    As for the kids their just thought to have respect and manners.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,670 ✭✭✭✭Wolfe Tone


    Seriously, I never had any inclination to do any stuff like that or bother my neighbors. Worst thing I did was smash a window with my football. then went and measured the pane, got one cut and replaced it. I doubt many lads would do that. Kids have no respect at all. Its a reflection on the parents and the cotton glove attitudes in schools were students can through chairs at teachers and only get suspended for a day. Its a joke.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭bryaner


    MUSSOLINI wrote: »
    Seriously, I never had any inclination to do any stuff like that or bother my neighbors. Worst thing I did was smash a window with my football. then went and measured the pane, got one cut and replaced it. I doubt many lads would do that. Kids have no respect at all. Its a reflection on the parents and the cotton glove attitudes in schools were students can through chairs at teachers and only get suspended for a day. Its a joke.

    100%


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 970 ✭✭✭dr ro


    maybe some people here don't realize that you can't reason with the moronic pack mentality of some groups of kids. you can try to be cool to them or talk them down but realistically if you do try that then to them, you're an idiot and an old fool. I do agree with the "other side of the stream" comment too, unfortunately. There isn't much social responsibility apparent there. And that spills over into neighbouring areas. The only way to do it is take some action that makes it look like it's not aimed at them. Otherwise you come home to an egged house if you're lucky or worse broken windows etc. Plus if you've small kids who go to sleep early things could get worse if you lose the head. Warn them that you've a problem with cats on the wall and in your garden and you're trying some things to deter them. If it's your boundary wall then they shouldn't be on it so I wouldn't give a crap about their safety. I climbed plenty of trees and walls when I was a kid but I always looked out for my own safety. Trespassing or not. So, if you're trespassing it's on your own head.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,952 ✭✭✭Lando Griffin


    Had kids on my wall once and went out to them and had a chat, all going well until one piped up and said she could do anything she wanted and I was not going to stop her and she climbed into the garden. I told her I was calling the guards and she said she would get her father to sort me out. I went inside but she couldnt get back out and a few minutes later a guard came i explained she threatened me and he took her away. Had a very angry drunk father call to my door that night and to this day he is regretting he did and im not finished with the scumbag yet


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Had kids on my wall once and went out to them and had a chat, all going well until one piped up and said she could do anything she wanted and I was not going to stop her and she climbed into the garden. I told her I was calling the guards and she said she would get her father to sort me out. I went inside but she couldnt get back out and a few minutes later a guard came i explained she threatened me and he took her away. Had a very angry drunk father call to my door that night and to this day he is regretting he did and im not finished with the scumbag yet

    What did you do to the dad?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19 King_Carlos


    Had kids on my wall once and went out to them and had a chat, all going well until one piped up and said she could do anything she wanted and I was not going to stop her and she climbed into the garden. I told her I was calling the guards and she said she would get her father to sort me out. I went inside but she couldnt get back out and a few minutes later a guard came i explained she threatened me and he took her away. Had a very angry drunk father call to my door that night and to this day he is regretting he did and im not finished with the scumbag yet

    Fair play to you. Had an experience with them on my wall about 2 mths ago. Got my baseball bat went out and gave them 2 simple options. Problem solved and have not seen them again. Spoke in a very low and calm way and they got the message.

    Oh and Xavier don't bother replying to me Id prefer to pull out my nails than take your better than everyone opinion.

    C.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,952 ✭✭✭Lando Griffin


    Rojomcdojo wrote: »
    What did you do to the dad?

    He was done for drunk driving that night and a few weeks later was done for fly tipping.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3 Bairbre


    FirstIn wrote: »
    Re telling their parents, it could be quite tough to get a hold of them. Are the kids local? If the kids are from across the stream then I wouldn't bother.

    How about taking pictures of them (is this allowed, I guess so). Don't tell them what it is for but make it obvious that you are taking their pictures. They will start guessing why you are doing this and it might put them off doing it again.
    I wouldnt recommend taking pictures of them no matter how much they annoy you. Just not acceptable these days, you might end up regretting it


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,670 ✭✭✭✭Wolfe Tone


    Bairbre wrote: »
    I wouldnt recommend taking pictures of them no matter how much they annoy you. Just not acceptable these days, you might end up regretting it
    I see no reason why not. Perfectly reasonable to take photos of trespassers.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,221 ✭✭✭✭m5ex9oqjawdg2i


    bryaner wrote: »
    Bugger off back to your civil liberties do gooder buddies

    If you don't know what ASB is well that sums it up!

    And I didn't see anyone putting glass on the wall.

    As for the kids their just thought to have respect and manners.

    ASB could mean a number of things, maybe you should explain it before telling me to get lost? Much of a right to be here as any of ye do...

    Somebody suggested putting glass on the wall, do try keep up.
    Fair play to you. Had an experience with them on my wall about 2 mths ago. Got my baseball bat went out and gave them 2 simple options. Problem solved and have not seen them again. Spoke in a very low and calm way and they got the message.

    Oh and Xavier don't bother replying to me Id prefer to pull out my nails than take your better than everyone opinion.

    C.

    Well, I couldn't really give a damn what you think to be quite honest. It's not a "better than everyone" opinion, but a logical and unbiased approach to the matter at hand. Greasing, glassing the walls, going for baseball bats, shotguns, etc etc... a bit extreme? It's not a zombie apocolypse for christ sakes. Adults here should really have a bit of cop on and not threaten youngsters... They are walking on a wall... op has not stated otherwise, even when asked.
    He was done for drunk driving that night and a few weeks later was done for fly tipping.

    Good, proper way to deal with them, call the Gardai. Less of the vigilante retribution witch hunting antics. It's quite childish.
    Bairbre wrote: »
    I wouldnt recommend taking pictures of them no matter how much they annoy you. Just not acceptable these days, you might end up regretting it

    It's pretty ok to take photo's of people in a public place. Morally questionable in the likes of a playground, but perfectly legal.

    On to my next suggestion, might want to check out the legal forums here, and get a second opinion, it seems that if you are not in the witch hunting crowd, your suggestions do not matter.


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 3,740 Mod ✭✭✭✭The Real B-man


    If the Wall is Part of You're Property Apply Some Anti Vandal Paint on the Top to Discourage Them there not Stupid, i know kids will be kids we all Where but you dont want Some Kid Falling into your Garden and Splitting there Head Open either.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,331 ✭✭✭✭loyatemu


    Bryaner - tone it down please with the over-aggressive replies.

    this thread has run its course - there's some good suggestions, and some really inadvisable ones. OP hope you can get it sorted out.


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