Saudi Clerics Advocate Adult Breast-Feeding

The_Minister

I genuinely, genuinely considered calling this thread "Islam jumps the shark".

http://www.aolnews.com/world/article/saudi-clerics-advocate-adult-breast-feeding/19504280

Women in Saudi Arabia should give their breast milk to male colleagues and acquaintances in order to avoid breaking strict Islamic law forbidding mixing between the sexes, two powerful Saudi clerics have said. They are at odds, however, over precisely how the milk should be conveyed.

A fatwa issued recently about adult breast-feeding to establish "maternal relations" and preclude the possibility of sexual contact has resulted in a week's worth of newspaper headlines in Saudi Arabia. Some have found the debate so bizarre that they're calling for stricter regulations about how and when fatwas should be issued.

Sheikh Al Obeikan, an adviser to the royal court and consultant to the Ministry of Justice, set off a firestorm of controversy recently when he said on TV that women who come into regular contact with men who aren't related to them ought to give them their breast milk so they will be considered relatives.

"The man should take the milk, but not directly from the breast of the woman," Al Obeikan said, according to Gulf News. "He should drink it and then becomes a relative of the family, a fact that allows him to come in contact with the women without breaking Islam's rules about mixing."

Obeikan said the fatwa applied to men who live in the same house or come into contact with women on a regular basis, except for drivers.

Al Obeikan, who made the statement after being asked on TV about a 2007 fatwa issued by an Egyptian scholar about adult breast-feeding, said that the breast milk ought to be pumped out and given to men in a glass.

But his remarks were followed by an announcement by another high-profile sheik, Abi Ishaq Al Huwaini, who said that men should suckle the breast milk directly from a woman's breast.

Shortly after the two sheiks weighed in on the matter, a bus driver in the country's Eastern Region reportedly told one of the female teachers whom he drives regularly that he wanted to suckle milk from her breast. The teacher has threaten to file a lawsuit against him.

The fatwa stems from the tenets of the strict Wahhabi version of Islam that governs modern Saudi Arabia and forbids women from mixing with men who are not relatives. They are also not allowed to vote, drive or even leave the country without the consent of a male "guardian."

Under Islamic law, women are encouraged to breast-feed their children until the age of 2. It is not uncommon for sisters, for example, to breast-feed their nephews so they and their daughters will not have to cover their faces in front of them later in life. The custom is called being a "breast milk sibling."

But under Islamic law, breast milk siblings have to be breastfed before the age of 2 in five "fulfilling" sessions. Islam prohibits sexual relations between a man and any woman who breastfed him in infancy. They are then allowed to be alone together when the man is an adult because he is not considered a potential mate.

"The whole issue just shows how clueless men are," blogger Eman Al Nafjan wrote on her website. "All this back and forth between sheiks and not one bothers to ask a woman if it's logical, let alone possible to breastfeed a grown man five fulfilling breast milk meals.

"Moreover, the thought of a huge hairy face at a woman's breast does not evoke motherly or even brotherly feelings. It could go from the grotesque to the erotic but definitely not maternal."

Al Nafjan said many in the country were appalled by the fatwa.

"We have many important issues that need discussing," Al Nafjan told AOL News Friday. "It's ridiculous to spend time talking about adult breast-feeding."

Unlawful mixing between the sexes is taken very seriously in Saudi Arabia. In March 2009, a 75-year-old Syrian widow, Khamisa Mohammed Sawadi, living in the city of Al-Chamil, was given 40 lashes and sentenced to six months in prison after the religious police learned that two men who were not related to her were in her house, delivering bread to her.

One of the two men found in her house, Fahd, told the police that Sawadi breast-fed him as a baby so he was considered a son and had a right to be there. But in a later court ruling, a judge said it could not be proved that Fahd was her "breast milk son." Fahd was sentenced to four months in prison and 40 lashes, and the man who accompanied him got six months and 60 lashes.

The original adult breast-feeding fatwa was issued three years ago by an Egyptian scholar at Egypt's al-Azhar University, considered Sunni Islam's top university. Ezzat Attiya was expelled from the university after advocating breast-feeding of men as a way to circumnavigate segregation of the sexes in Egypt.

A year ago, Attiya was reinstated to his post.

Sounds like a good idea, but what happens if you forget to feed them before showing your face?


Some people just have poor mameries.

Silverfish

*barf*

easyeason3

It sounds like they made a boob of that one.

franklyshocked

I always wanted to know how you "become" related to someone. Apparently its all about drinking breast milk. Who knew. Thanks Islam.

The_Minister

What I'm concerned about is the idea of a 'fulfilling meal'.

This probably rules out making a giant hunk of cheese......

easyeason3

The_Minister wrote: »

What I'm concerned about is the idea of a 'fulfilling meal'.

This probably rules out making a giant hunk of cheese......

Have you ever tasted breast milk as an adult or would you try it if offered?

The_Minister

easyeason3 wrote: »

Have you ever tasted breast milk as an adult or would you try it if offered?

Haven't tried it - I would have to know her very well.

After all, she would then become my sister.

muckwarrior

Fυck all this "respecting other peoples' culture" bullshit. These people are clearly just ignorant savages.

The_Minister

muckwarrior wrote: »

Fυck all this "respecting other peoples' culture" bullshit. These people are clearly just ignorant savages.

From someone whose profile pic is a baby blowing him....

Thomas828

Those Saudi clerics don't know their anuses from the Blackwall Tunnel! If Saudi Arabia had no oil reserves those ultra-religious nincompoops would have to live in the real world instead of passing one lame-brain law after another from their cloisters in Mecca.

muckwarrior

The_Minister wrote: »

From someone who's profile pic is a baby blowing him....

LMAO. That was my michael jackson costume one halloween.

PeterIanStaker

bitty?

The_Minister

I think this thread is just right to move to the Islam forum now.:D

4chan

Fapped to this :pac:.

Agricola

Ya got to hand it to em. The dont get to see scantily clad women too often so they go to the next level and try to bring in adult breast feeding!

Animals who can talk.

easyeason3

Agricola wrote: »

Ya got to hand it to em. The dont get to see scantily clad women too often so they go to the next level and try to bring in adult breast feeding!

They don't get to see scantily clad women because they would beat 7 shades of purple out of them if there was more than an eyeball on display.

Jaxxy

easyeason3 wrote: »

They don't get to see scantily clad women because they would beat 7 shades of purple out of them if there was more than an eyeball on display.

+1.

Also I wonder if they realise that women cannot produce breast milk on command?

easyeason3

JaxxYChicK wrote: »

+1.

Also I wonder if they realise that women cannot produce breast milk on command?

If I was being threatened with getting stoned (not high, but actual stones ****ed at me) then you can be damn sure I'd produce on command.

I'd probably grow a third tit & nipple to be sure

Jaxxy

easyeason3 wrote: »

I'd probably grow a third tit & nipple to be sure

In that case you'd be the most popular breast milk mama in all of Saudi. That's a lot of mouths to feed!

Oh God, the inhumanity of it all.

old_aussie

How sic are these people?

Mr Benevolent

Another thought provoking thread from The Minister.*

*Wait, I mean another pointless headline from The Minister.

The_Minister

Confab wrote: »

Another thought provoking thread from The Minister.*

*Wait, I mean another pointless headline from The Minister.

You're annoyed because I post interesting/unusual/zany news stories in After Hours?


I thought the story was both interesting and funny.

Gummy Panda

I think these saudis are just making these stories up so that they can laugh at the west when we believe them

Riamfada

Thankfully I take my coffee black ... like my abaya

Deleted User

Deleted User wrote: »

Animals who can talk.

Isnt that what we are?

skepticalone

this is just another ridiculous thought from our islamic friends, i find the idea absolutely abhorrent , ive never even breastfed my own children , never mind total fooking strangers , i also find the asertion that men are making these decisions laughable , and for the record , breast milk tastes like pretty much feck all , tho i know that some folks have a fetish for it , i hardly think this applies in islam tho, considering they find a womans ankle, elbow, earlobe highly suggestive , ive often wondered , when a saudi woman gives birth , how the hell does she do it dressed in a hagib? ive seen them in holles street maternity hospital, insisting that all attendants to them be female , thank heavens im not a saudi because to be honest ,when faced with the horrific pain of childbirth , i couldnt care less if the whole world watched ........build a wall around these fookers and leave them to it , civilised society my arse .

Melange

skepticalone wrote: »

this is just another ridiculous thought from our islamic friends, i find the idea absolutely abhorrent , ive never even breastfed my own children , never mind total fooking strangers

Somewhat unsurprising.

skepticalone

Melange wrote: »

Somewhat unsurprising.

didnt say i was against breastfeeding , just that i did not do it myself .

Bottle_of_Smoke

Wonder if there's actually Quranic justification. Just don't think even the writers of that story were that retarded.

dvpower

muckwarrior wrote: »

Fυck all this "respecting other peoples' culture" bullshit. These people are clearly just ignorant savages.

Yeah. This thread is jam packed with people calling for us to respect this.:rolleyes:

Scarydoll

Can you make cheese out of breast milk?

Thomas828

Scarydoll wrote: »

Can you make cheese out of breast milk?

You just might, if you process it properly, that is, if you have the right laboratory equipment and the right additives and other weird and wonderful chemicals.

starbelgrade

Can Mozzarella be used as implants?