Trv's

beardybob

Hi everyone

Any one know this price of supply and fit of trv's. Does a plumber price per rad or is it done on an over all price. 20 rads to do. I've also a rad to change for a double and an immersion element to replace,A bottom entry one for bath,what kind of money would they be asking for the whole lot.

Thanks

yoshytoshy

It all depends on what type of pipe your system is done in ,very hard to price a job like this without having a look at it.
Some valves take a bit more work than others ,times that by 20 and theres a couple of extra hours work.

Joey the lips

From memory plumbers use to charge 50 euro a rad. Why are you doing 20 has legislation said you need them on every rad now...

i only remember them being fitted downstairs and bathrooms.

Buford T Justice

Also would depend on the type of piping you are using. if its 1/2" then most TRV's will fit easily. If its GB Steel, then that could be another story

beardybob

Well its all half inch copper. Your not supposed to put trv's in the bathroom or kitchen they give off false heat i.e. cookers,fans ovens etc. the trv's get confused and don't work as they should.

€50 per rad is very excessive I would have thought.That'd be €2000. I'd nearly have a new heating system for that lol.

I priced trv's at €14 each. And once the system is drained is it not just a straight swap??

beardybob

beardybob wrote: »

Well its all half inch copper. Your not supposed to put trv's in the bathroom or kitchen they give off false heat i.e. cookers,fans ovens etc. the trv's get confused and don't work as they should.

I have never known this to be an issue yet, you will still have control over the TRV in the kitchen/bathroom but the number setting maybe different to other rooms, thats why they have numbers instead of a temperature showing, normally the bathroom rad/towel rail has no TRV fitted so it can act as a bypass when all other valves shut down.

beardybob wrote: »

€50 per rad is very excessive I would have thought.

You have a large system and the price is normally per rad, so i would get a few quotes from your local plumbers to get a better idea of the price, also have a look at your system water before you go ahead with the work as it may pay you to chemically flush you system as well if it's needed

fcukhu

€50 per rad is very excessive I would have thought.That'd be €2000. I'd nearly have a new heating system for that lol


20 rads @ €50 = €1,000

Not as bad as you thought!

beardybob

€1000, whoops that was a slip off the finger on the key board, honestly..:o. Even €1000 sound massively expensive.

yoshytoshy

Sometimes you need to change the tailpiece in the radiator aswell and change the nut and ring on the pipe.

If this is on 20 radiators ,it would add up to more time obviously.

It's really only the bathroom that you shouldn't put the TRV on ,bathroom trv's tend to brake or sieze a lot. I think it's the steam.

Can't see anyone charging you anything near 1000 for changing the valves ,it would be more like 600 euro
The valves are 280 as you've said ,so that leaves about 320 euro for what could be a days work.

Still hard to say over the internet ,but I wouldn't say you'd be far off with that for the trv's

Buford T Justice

beardybob wrote: »

€1000, whoops that was a slip off the finger on the key board, honestly..:o. Even €1000 sound massively expensive.

You may get a bit of a discount. Thats the system drained, 20 rads that need one valve removing and replacing. It'll take a bit of time. Plus, if there are issues whereby you can't use the existing olive and nut on the new TRV fitting, it'll be a pain to cut off all the olives to replace them all. Could be a straight swap, but don't bank on it. Murphy's law and all that

Joey the lips

beardybob wrote: »

Well its all half inch copper. Your not supposed to put trv's in the bathroom or kitchen they give off false heat i.e. cookers,fans ovens etc. the trv's get confused and don't work as they should.

€50 per rad is very excessive I would have thought.That'd be €2000. I'd nearly have a new heating system for that lol.

I priced trv's at €14 each. And once the system is drained is it not just a straight swap??

With respect... Your asking advice then telling me i am wrong thats fine to be honest but why ask if you half know and why not share what you know.

Obv no one is going to pay 50 per rad I just gave you the rate as i know it.

Additionally I have never heard of any problems with trv's in bathrooms or kitchens but irononically I have in halls so there you go.

As suggested get a quote might be the best way.

beardybob

Joey the lips wrote: »

With respect... Your asking advice then telling me i am wrong thats fine to be honest but why ask if you half know and why not share what you know.

Obv no one is going to pay 50 per rad I just gave you the rate as i know it.

Additionally I have never heard of any problems with trv's in bathrooms or kitchens but irononically I have in halls so there you go.

As suggested get a quote might be the best way.

I wasn't saying you were wrong i had heard that you dont put them in bathroom,eas really only looking for advice.sorry. €600 sounds fair, dont you think

gorwanvfr

You could change them yourself not that big a job. Did mine all 34 of them and fittted a bypass valve
http://www.adeysolutions.co.uk/magnaclean_professional.asp

As yoshy stated you may have to change the nipple of the rad I had to.

JohnnieK

A days labour and the TRV's that's all some one should charge. You might look into getting the TRV's your self as a plumber might put a mark up on getting the parts, I would.

You should seriously consider getting the system checked as well to see if it needs to be chemically cleaned as Gary71 has suggested. If the system is dirty and you fit TRV's it can affect there performance. Also remember when the system is refilled fresh water will be introduced to it promoting further corrosion, and putting an inhibitor into a dirty system is a no no too.

planxtyite

Hi,
Just to add to this thread can anyone comment on the possibility of fitting TRVs to a system with half inch iron pipe and threaded fittings. I'm guessing it's not a good idea to attempt to remove the existing radiator valves because of the likelihood of the pipe moving and turning in the threaded elbows in the floor? The system is approx thirty years old or more. Also are TRVs for half inch iron still available?

yoshytoshy

planxtyite wrote: »

Hi,
Just to add to this thread can anyone comment on the possibility of fitting TRVs to a system with half inch iron pipe and threaded fittings. I'm guessing it's not a good idea to attempt to remove the existing radiator valves because of the likelihood of the pipe moving and turning in the threaded elbows in the floor? The system is approx thirty years old or more. Also are TRVs for half inch iron still available?

They're available ,but are very expensive.

Outkast_IRE

planxtyite wrote: »

Hi,
Just to add to this thread can anyone comment on the possibility of fitting TRVs to a system with half inch iron pipe and threaded fittings. I'm guessing it's not a good idea to attempt to remove the existing radiator valves because of the likelihood of the pipe moving and turning in the threaded elbows in the floor? The system is approx thirty years old or more. Also are TRVs for half inch iron still available?

It can be done , the only place i have done it is on jobs in government buildings where they got all concerened with energy saving and money wasnt a issue, but they are expensive and in a domestic situation or small building situation most people will just wait till the system is being replaced and then fit them while the other work is being carried out.