Incident at Tramore Road Roundabout Today

decies

Was approaching Tramore Road Roundabout this evening,was passed out by a nice high performance car,anyway at the roundabout a chap was attempting to cross the road,the bloke in the car nearly ploughed into him as he was speeding.The pedestrian was not pleased to say the least and started waving his hands at the driver.The driver pulled up ,no shirt on,built like a brick house,thought heres trouble.The driver of the car to the pedestrian,"have you got a problem or something" Then the piste de resistance,"Do you know who i am,?" "I am (mentioned his name well known traveler family)" "I OWN this town!!!" I drove on,and though better of having my say:(

snuggles09

I'd have said "yeah well you aren't in the town you're on the Tramore road ya C**T"..hate that bullying ****e..and i'm a woman but i'd kick him in the balls..i've a temper like that and road rage that you wouldnt believe at time:D

decies

snuggles09 wrote: »

I'd have said "yeah well you aren't in the town you're on the Tramore road ya C**T"..hate that bullying ****e..and i'm a woman but i'd kick him in the balls..i've a temper like that and road rage that you wouldnt believe at time:D

I think he mentioned about burning his house down good luck with that

Junior

decies wrote: »

I think he mentioned about burning his house down good luck with that

A Great reply to anyone like that is "F*ck off or I'll burn your house to the axles" It confuses the sh*t out of them for ages.

ziedth

I would have just Jedi mind tricked him, wave hand and say back into your car.

Cabaal

Clearly him "owning this time" means he is exempt from all national and international laws and by-laws, this explains why its ok for him to almost mow down a person crossing the road
:rolleyes:

ROCKMAN

Well if I was treated as well as him and his family by the Gardai and Courts ,I might think I Owned the town as well.

ex_infantry man

his pieball pony must have been goin some break neck speed was it?????

JohnC.

Well done on getting another thread locked guys :rolleyes:

ziedth

IBTL and all that

Aquos76

Thread cleaned up, lets keep things back on topic please

takola

Both Giles Lynchwood and Jack Burton are banned for a week.

Everyone knows the rules when it comes to these threads by now and most can discuss it without resorting to stupid bigoted comments. Consider this the only warning there will be.

ziedth

Now my IBTL comment looks totally out of place

gscully

decies wrote: »

I think he mentioned about burning his house down good luck with that

I'd have said 'Do you know who I am?'
'Eh no boss'
'Well how are you gonna burn my fcuken house down then?'

decies

gscully wrote: »

I'd have said 'Do you know who I am?'
'Eh no boss'
'Well how are you gonna burn my fcuken house down then?'

I hope youd be a strong man scully this bloke wasn,t taking any back chat,the pedestrain was more likely apoligising for being nearly knocked down

jonnyfingers

decies wrote: »

I drove on,and though better of having my say:(

I'm not getting onto you OP but this is the sort of attitude that lets people like this get away with sh*t like that. Personally if that guy started on the pedestrian I'd like to see every other driver get out of their cars and back the pedestrian up.

But unfortunately when it comes to confrontation, especially with known travellers, everyone is worried about themselves, which is fair enough as you're looking after your own safety.

But at then end of the day people have no right to complain about this kind of behaviour if they're not willing to do something about it.

Again I must stress I'm not getting on to you OP. I can safely say everyone that saw that incident stayed in their cars and just drove by. No point one person making a stand if nobody else will.

Yes Boss

Is there any legitimate reason why they are left to carry on like this without being arrested? Is the Law too weak?

wobbles

The minority card is pulled and since the world is so PC these days, full punishment is not enforced in case it comes back to bite them in the ass.

Because travellers are not prosecuted, they feel they can get away with anything, hence, owning this town.

Yes Boss

wobbles wrote: »

The minority card is pulled and since the world is so PC these days, full punishment is not enforced in case it comes back to bite them in the ass.

Because travellers are not prosecuted, they feel they can get away with anything, hence, owning this town.

If that is the case it is bloody wrong on so many different levels!!

500sel

I'm down here for the weekend and thought there seemed to be an unusually high number of ethnic minority's around ( Is that pc enough?)

tc2010

Town is flooded with them. They come over from England for the summer to relations. Its a tradition

If you think Waterford is bad during the summer you should check out Tralee and Limerick

CantGetNoSleep

wobbles wrote: »

The minority card is pulled and since the world is so PC these days, full punishment is not enforced in case it comes back to bite them in the ass.

Because travellers are not prosecuted, they feel they can get away with anything, hence, owning this town.

No feeling about it, they can get away with anything, well once they take a little photo shaking hands all crimes will be forgiven

I wonder if I threw half of them into the river and found a settled community to shake my hand on the front of the News and Star would I get away with it? Or if I got half of Waterford to shake my hand even?

Hoffmans

decies wrote: »

Was approaching Tramore Road Roundabout this evening,was passed out by a nice high performance car,anyway at the roundabout a chap was attempting to cross the road,the bloke in the car nearly ploughed into him as he was speeding.The pedestrian was not pleased to say the least and started waving his hands at the driver.The driver pulled up ,no shirt on,built like a brick house,thought heres trouble.The driver of the car to the pedestrian,"have you got a problem or something" Then the piste de resistance,"Do you know who i am,?" "I am (mentioned his name well known traveler family)" "I OWN this town!!!" I drove on,and though better of having my say:(

did u get the reg? did it have a towbar..........:)

decies

Hoffmans wrote: »

did u get the reg? did it have a towbar..........:)

The words well known to the police probably come to mind in these situations.

jo06555

jonnyfingers wrote: »

I'm not getting onto you OP but this is the sort of attitude that lets people like this get away with sh*t like that. Personally if that guy started on the pedestrian I'd like to see every other driver get out of their cars and back the pedestrian up.

But unfortunately when it comes to confrontation, especially with known travellers, everyone is worried about themselves, which is fair enough as you're looking after your own safety.

But at then end of the day people have no right to complain about this kind of behaviour if they're not willing to do something about it.

Again I must stress I'm not getting on to you OP. I can safely say everyone that saw that incident stayed in their cars and just drove by. No point one person making a stand if nobody else will.

I agree but it will never happen and unfortunately i know someone who ended up in A&E just cause a young member of a family started abusing his girlfriend , the man (who didnt know who they were) told them where to go and pushed them off his girlfriend , within 5 min the young boys had their older brothers pull up in cars with hurleys and pick axes and give him awful hiding .

This man beaten would be known around too , but it seems these travellers want their name ruling the city and will do everything possible to make it happen , and your right jonnyfingers until people all stand up together it wont stop .

But how do people know who will stand up for them especially in this kind of situation on tramore rd . After all the feuding over the years most people know travellers are well able to burn down houses or attack you with hardly no punishment if caught .

xonox

A neighbour of mine was mugged by one of these families in the last week. When he reported it to the gardai he was told that if he made an official complaint he would suffer unbearable harassment. If there is no consequences for their actions why wouldn't they behave like this.:mad:

jo06555

xonox wrote: »

A neighbour of mine was mugged by one of these families in the last week. When he reported it to the gardai he was told that if he made an official complaint he would suffer unbearable harassment. If there is no consequences for their actions why wouldn't they behave like this.:mad:

Ye i reckon half the cops are afraid of them too, i know that during feud and even now when they get a call to a traveller fight or dispute they all wait in a location and meet up to go in cars and vans full ,

A pub was bein busted up on barrack st a while back with travellers fighting and the cops were sitting in a car park around corner waiting for their buddies to come first ,

Fight was well over when cops finally got their about 10-15 min later :rolleyes: imagine the damage or injurys that could of bein done to innocent people in that time while cops held back.

I understand they cant risk bein out numbered but when cops are called by someone, i think they expect them to arrive straight away even its only 1 car.

gscully

I honestly get the feeling that until a vigilante-style group is set up to deal with nonsense like this, those thugs will have the run of the town and things will get worse.

I have no faith in the justice system or those who 'enforce' it :mad:

baronflyguy

xonox wrote: »

A neighbour of mine was mugged by one of these families in the last week. When he reported it to the gardai he was told that if he made an official complaint he would suffer unbearable harassment. If there is no consequences for their actions why wouldn't they behave like this.:mad:

I hope Waterford doesn't turn into a Limerick.

C_Dawg

Some of the posts here are painting a scary picture of today's society

Junior

C_Dawg wrote: »

Some of the posts here are painting a scary picture of today's society

It's a number of problems all compounded by each other, the scum know how far they can push the law without ever getting in bother, the cops themselves are too f*cking lazy to actually enforce the law, so the bar gets raised for the scum to push the law to. The cops then complain they have no authority or respect but yet they do nothing or very little to earn it from the public.

jonnyfingers

I was driving past the old Waterford Crystal factory yesterday and saw a car parked in the lay-by across from the Topaz garage. Outside there was a guy absolutely beating the crap out of another guy. Four of his friends were laughing and waiting for him in the car. As I was reaching them the guy caught the other fella by the scruff of his neck, lowered his head and viciously kneed him in the face, throwing him backwards and completely off his feet.

I started beeping the horn. Seems that was the end of the fight anyway as the guy started to walk back to the car, smiling. As I drove passed I slowed down to get a good luck at the guy. He gave me a look as if to say "You next?". I made sure to make a mental image of what he looked like. The other guys in the car were giving me filthies as well.

The guy who got beaten up seemed to be somewhat ok as he got up and kept on walking away, he had a friend who came to help him as well. They both looked completely shocked.

I had to keep driving as there was plenty of traffic behind me but was disappointed that I couldn't get the car licence plate number. But lo and behold as I reached the roundabout by the RSC up comes the car speeding next to me, stopping along side me to give me a few more dirty looks and a few choice words. Worked out well as I got an even better look at everyone in the car and the licence plate of the car as it sped off!

Called Crimestoppers afterwards and reported as much as I could. I'm not confident the Gardai will even listen to the message I left but at least I can say I tried to do something.

It sickens me to see behaviour like this in Waterford. No need for it.

jo06555

Its unreal the attitude of these scumbags these days , they just think they can rule the streets by beating people up , you done right jonny , do you feel they were pulling up beside you to intimidate you and would you know any of them to see? even give the car type out here so others can watch out for the scum , they could just go around in cars picking on and robbing people .

ex_infantry man

jonnyfingers wrote: »

I was driving past the old Waterford Crystal factory yesterday and saw a car parked in the lay-by across from the Topaz garage. Outside there was a guy absolutely beating the crap out of another guy. Four of his friends were laughing and waiting for him in the car. As I was reaching them the guy caught the other fella by the scruff of his neck, lowered his head and viciously kneed him in the face, throwing him backwards and completely off his feet.

I started beeping the horn. Seems that was the end of the fight anyway as the guy started to walk back to the car, smiling. As I drove passed I slowed down to get a good luck at the guy. He gave me a look as if to say "You next?". I made sure to make a mental image of what he looked like. The other guys in the car were giving me filthies as well.

The guy who got beaten up seemed to be somewhat ok as he got up and kept on walking away, he had a friend who came to help him as well. They both looked completely shocked.

I had to keep driving as there was plenty of traffic behind me but was disappointed that I couldn't get the car licence plate number. But lo and behold as I reached the roundabout by the RSC up comes the car speeding next to me, stopping along side me to give me a few more dirty looks and a few choice words. Worked out well as I got an even better look at everyone in the car and the licence plate of the car as it sped off!

Called Crimestoppers afterwards and reported as much as I could. I'm not confident the Gardai will even listen to the message I left but at least I can say I tried to do something.

It sickens me to see behaviour like this in Waterford. No need for it.

fair play to ya boy

i used work doin security few years back in lisduggan sc and used get threatened the whole time by these families of thugs saying they,ll come back and shoot me and all this crap and i just used go as close as i could to em and say " of ya go get your gun and come back i,ll be waiting for ya" it used confuse the **** outta them as they thought they were scaring me when in fact they were,nt

jonnyfingers

jo06555 wrote: »

Its unreal the attitude of these scumbags these days , they just think they can rule the streets by beating people up , you done right jonny , do you feel they were pulling up beside you to intimidate you and would you know any of them to see? even give the car type out here so others can watch out for the scum , they could just go around in cars picking on and robbing people .

They were probably trying to intimidate me but they didn't do a very good job to be honest.

The car was a bottle green '98 Corolla, 4-door. As for the lads inside, just looked like the typical lads who wear tracksuits with the ends tucked into their socks, dodgy haircuts and a few gold chains around their necks and gold rings on their fingers. All early 20's I'd say, maybe even some under 20. So that narrows it down to a couple of thousand in Waterford I'd say!

Didn't recognise anyone but then again I wouldn't exactly know all the scumbags in town to see them!

Got a bit of a fright today though, as when I arrived home there was 3 motorbike gardai outside my house after stopping a green car. Was a BMW though! Thought I'm might have had some visitors!

giles lynchwood

3 motorcycle garda and a bmw,sure it was not a member of the goverment community.:p

O Riain

About a year ago a fella seriously assaulted one of my friends, the gardai arrested the man and released him without charge. My friend then saw the guy down town and called them again sayin look your man is here the fella that assaulted me will ya come down and get em.
Nothing ever happened of it.
Now I wasnt around at the time but I've come to realise that you cannot turn to the law, we the normal respectable people of ireland, out number scumbags at least 100/1 yet we do not seem to realise this, we just sit down on our message boards goin "ah the law dont do anything, il just watch while some fella gets beatin to death and cry help" we need to all unite and the next time a scumbag nearly knocks a fella down and then gets out of the car to "sort him out" we all need to stop our cars, head over to the gurrier and sort him out with a few slaps.
As I said I wasnt around for when me friend got attacked but if my friends point him out to me, someone will be following him home with a hurley and they will break his legs, I suggest other people in similar situations take up the same attitude, otherwise itl be 2099 and we'll still just be sitting at our computers complaining about "all the scumbags".

jonnyfingers

O Riain wrote: »

About a year ago a fella seriously assaulted one of my friends, the gardai arrested the man and released him without charge. My friend then saw the guy down town and called them again sayin look your man is here the fella that assaulted me will ya come down and get em.
Nothing ever happened of it.

A few years back myself, the girlfriend and two of her friends who were visiting from England were at the old cinema in town. I was parked out the back in the car park and as I was driving out this guy threw a bollard full force at the side of the car putting quite a large dent in the back side door. He was standing there screaming at me, crazed. I went to get out and deal with him but my girlfriend asked me not to start trouble when her friends were there. They were in the back and were in a bit of shock. And the guy who threw the bollard definitely looked like he was on something, he had that crazy look in his eyes. So instead I drove to the Garda station around the corner, it took one minute.

I went inside, explained what happened to the Garda on duty, how my car was damaged and told him the guy who did it is only around the corner and looked like he was off his head on drugs so he could be a danger to others out in town, could someone please go and pick him up.

Unbelievably he said there was nothing he could do. He was on his own in the station and nobody was closeby so he couldn't leave. I asked could he not just call the closest squad car to take a spin down to where he is? He said no. I asked then what I was supposed to do? Someone had intentionally damaged my car, it happened around the corner from the police station and the guy is most likely still there. He suggested that I go and "arrest" him myself and bring him up to the station.

I told him I don't get paid to do his job and left. Had to fork out over €300 to get the damage repaired and didn't even get so much as an apology from the Garda for being totally useless.

jo06555

O Riain wrote: »

As I said I wasnt around for when me friend got attacked but if my friends point him out to me, someone will be following him home with a hurley and they will break his legs, I suggest other people in similar situations take up the same attitude, otherwise itl be 2099 and we'll still just be sitting at our computers complaining about "all the scumbags".

The main reason their are so many feuds in waterford lately is because of familys fighting and sorting "things out their own way" while i agree no one should stand by when someone is bein attacked id stop clear of going after them with hurleys to attack them , do you mean you would walk up to a traveller or well known family name and break his two legs with no consequences for you later on?

They would not just leave it lie imo, then what, it will become another mini feud of tit for tat beatings like what these boys are doin right now until one day it goes too far and someone dies . i dont fully disagree with you but just take one look at gangs in limerick , i know we not near as bad but the gangs up their simply shoot people who try to stand up to them and law still dont stop them.

dayshah

jo06555 wrote: »

...and law still dont stop them.

Why would it stop them, they know they'll be let out in a few months.

I say put them all on some island off the west (after a fair trial) with a fishing rod each and let them 'sort it out themselves'.

mailrewop

dayshah wrote: »

Why would it stop them, they know they'll be let out in a few months.

I say put them all on some island off the west (after a fair trial) with a fishing rod each and let them 'sort it out themselves'.

pitch that idea to rte

jo06555

Anyone hear of a shooting in ballybeg today??? i heard man was shot not serious , iv not heard anything on news so i didnt open new thread , around lunch time today i was told.

O Riain

jo06555 wrote: »

The main reason their are so many feuds in waterford lately is because of familys fighting and sorting "things out their own way" while i agree no one should stand by when someone is bein attacked id stop clear of going after them with hurleys to attack them , do you mean you would walk up to a traveller or well known family name and break his two legs with no consequences for you later on?

They would not just leave it lie imo, then what, it will become another mini feud of tit for tat beatings like what these boys are doin right now until one day it goes too far and someone dies . i dont fully disagree with you but just take one look at gangs in limerick , i know we not near as bad but the gangs up their simply shoot people who try to stand up to them and law still dont stop them.

Yeah I know what your saying but the difference between my sorting it out and their sorting it out is that I would not initiate any violence thats for the scumbags to do and regret. Look its a highly ideological view and will never happen, my point really was to just say, we out number the scumbags and we cant rely on the law to help us. 99/100 people hate scumbags and if we could just realise this the problem would be solved. I knew a guy in school who stood up to a few travellers in red square while there was an absolute heap of fellas from the school there, the travellers put him in hospital without any qualms from the other school lads, at the best of times your average man is nothing more than your average coward.

gscully

O Riain wrote: »

Now I wasnt around at the time but I've come to realise that you cannot turn to the law, we the normal respectable people of ireland, out number scumbags at least 100/1 yet we do not seem to realise this, we just sit down on our message boards goin "ah the law dont do anything, il just watch while some fella gets beatin to death and cry help" we need to all unite and the next time a scumbag nearly knocks a fella down and then gets out of the car to "sort him out" we all need to stop our cars, head over to the gurrier and sort him out with a few slaps.
As I said I wasnt around for when me friend got attacked but if my friends point him out to me, someone will be following him home with a hurley and they will break his legs, I suggest other people in similar situations take up the same attitude, otherwise itl be 2099 and we'll still just be sitting at our computers complaining about "all the scumbags".

The problem is that scumbags hunt in packs like the cowards that they are. You won't find them up to mischief alone. We, the 'normal respectable' people will be minding our own business, not expecting trouble as we haven't invited it.

If we organised a vigilante group and tried to stand up to the scum, we would be so far out of our comfort zones. Our consciences and better nature would dictate our actions. We wouldn't hit even the scummiest bloke over the head with a hurley for fear we'd actually do him harm, not to mention the fact that the law actually would prosecute us!

Our best option is a neighbourhood watch scheme, but one that actually works. Groups of volunteers on shifts driving around the trouble spots and trying to be a deterrent.

williewalsh

My wife was once in a well known office suppliers in the city and was standing in a queue of about four people waiting to pay for her goods. A well-dressed man came into the shop, picked up a ream of paper and walked to the head of the queue (as the assistant was dealing with a customer), interrupted the transaction and proffered the money for the paper. The assistant told him that she was dealing with a customer and that he should join the queue. He retorted that he wanted to be served immediately to which she asked as to why she should serve him before the people who were there before him. He replied "BECAUSE I'M A VERY IMPORTANT PERSON."

And the fool served him!

giles lynchwood

Well as the saying goes"there was only two things ever came out of wexford,strawberry's and traveller's and your no strawberry":D