Palistinian Government offers Palistinian nationality to all those on flotilla

Run_to_da_hills

Palestinian Nationality and passports granted to all crew members who helped on the flotilla.

This basically means that they now have the right to enter Gaza unhindered.

http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=128947&sectionid=351020202

Indubitable

I wish I had Palestinian citizenship. Maybe next time.

So if these people now with Palestinian citizenship tried to access Gaza with aid, would they be refused entry?
I presume they would be allowed in with the aid confiscated?

whiteboy

this is a great way for journalists and those aboard to expose how terrible the conditions are in Gaza from the inside

P_1

Trouble is the Israelis can refuse to let them leave Palestine then.

Indubitable

pithater1 wrote: »

Trouble is the Israelis can refuse to let them leave Palestine then.

Revoke your Palestinian citizenship afterwards? IDK if that would help the situation.

whiteboy

pithater1 wrote: »

Trouble is the Israelis can refuse to let them leave Palestine then.

which would result in more international condemnation!

Something they really don't need right now

Run_to_da_hills

pithater1 wrote: »

Trouble is the Israelis can refuse to let them leave Palestine then.

Not with dual citizenship.

starbelgrade

Are they gonna make them wear those silly headscarfs?

Shryke

whiteboy wrote: »

which would result in more international condemnation!

Something they really don't need right now

Like they would give a ****.

strobe

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Palestinian Nationality and passports granted to all crew members who helped on the flotilla.

This basically means that they now have the right to enter Gaza unhindered.

http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=128947&sectionid=351020202

They would have the right to enter Gaza unhindered, but even people that were born in Gaza are not allowed to leave and/or enter Gaza unhindered.

whiteboy

I can see a 200 page thread in the making

Indubitable

whiteboy wrote: »

I can see a 200 page thread in the making

No, argument will get out of hand by then and insults will fly and the banhammer will come down on several users and thread locked.

InTheTrees

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

This basically means that they now have the right to enter Gaza unhindered.

I don't think anybody can enter or leave Gaza unhindered.

Morlar

I think this is an inspired move on their part. I think they are finally getting good at the old counter-propaganda.

Hande hoche!

Smart move on the palestinians' part.

InTheTrees

I dont see the wisdom. Or the propaganda value.

I can see foreign governments quickly washing their hands of their citizens who choose to switch rather using it as a cause.

But we'll see.

InTheTrees

kingofthe3rdyrs wrote: »

I wish I had Palestinian citizenship. Maybe next time.

Well the eligibility reqs cant be too strict surely?

karma_

InTheTrees wrote: »

I dont see the wisdom. Or the propaganda value.

I can see foreign governments quickly washing their hands of their citizens who choose to switch rather using it as a cause.

But we'll see.

What?

They can't.

ScumLord

I'd say a Palestinian passport would be more of a hindrance getting into some counties. Instead of a VIP lounge they'll get special access to the terrorist watchlist lounge with free cavity searches

ldxo15wus6fpgm

It would be pretty damn cool to say you were granted an honourable nationality, no matter what country it was.

However, that would probably be the hardest passport on the planet to travel with. Imagine trying to get through customs/get a visa waving your Palestinian passport in people's faces :rolleyes:

EDIT Damn, beaten I had the reply box open for about 10 minutes and ****ed off onto facebook :rolleyes:

InTheTrees

karma_ wrote: »

What?

They can't.

Sure they can. Germany for instance dosent allow dual citizenship, they would take it as a renunciation to accept a foreign passport. Not sure about others but there's bound to be more like that.

If you have dual in the US, the US authorities wont recognize anything other than your US citizenship for instance.

But it varies, i dont think there's any rule on it.

Run_to_da_hills

Paola Better Streetlight wrote: »

It would be pretty damn cool to say you were granted an honourable nationality, no matter what country it was.

However, that would probably be the hardest passport on the planet to travel with. Imagine trying to get through customs/get a visa waving your Palestinian passport in people's faces :rolleyes:

EDIT Damn, beaten I had the reply box open for about 10 minutes and ****ed off onto facebook :rolleyes:

It couldn't be any worse than holding an Israeli passport (or even an Israeli stamp on your passport} in most countries around the globe ATM.

InTheTrees

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

It couldn't be any worse than holding an Israeli passport (or even an Israeli stamp on your passport} in most countries around the globe ATM.

Except you can just get a new passport if you have politically sensitive stamps in it.

Not so easy with a politically sensitive passport.

And if Israelis have any trouble they just use Irish ones!

Run_to_da_hills

InTheTrees wrote: »

Except you can just get a new passport if you have politically sensitive stamps in it.

Not so easy with a politically sensitive passport.

And if Israelis have any trouble they just use Irish ones!

Some countries allow dual passports / dual citizenship, Im sure Turkey and other Arab nations loyal to the cause would rightly allow dual nationality.

strobe

InTheTrees wrote: »

Sure they can. Germany for instance dosent allow dual citizenship, they would take it as a renunciation to accept a foreign passport. Not sure about others but there's bound to be more like that.

If you have dual in the US, the US authorities wont recognize anything other than your US citizenship for instance.

But it varies, i dont think there's any rule on it.

Germany does allow dual citizenship in some conditions, basically you have to inform them prior to your accepting citizenship of another nation, and they have the option of signing off on it or opposing it, same goes for Austria. Most nations have an allowance for thier people to hold dual citizenship. Their are only a handful of exceptions that I am aware of, China, Japan, Singapore and Saudi Arabia are the ones I know of. I'm sure there are others but it is by no means common practice globally. The norm is that dual citizenship in unapposed.

ldxo15wus6fpgm

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

It couldn't be any worse than holding an Israeli passport (or even an Israeli stamp on your passport} in most countries around the globe ATM.

This will be forgotten fairly soon I reckon. Same as most big news stories these days really...
Plus there weren't any Israeli civilians involved in this so they (customs officials etc.) wouldn't be too harsh on them I'd reckon.

karma_

InTheTrees wrote: »

Sure they can. Germany for instance dosent allow dual citizenship, they would take it as a renunciation to accept a foreign passport. Not sure about others but there's bound to be more like that.

If you have dual in the US, the US authorities wont recognize anything other than your US citizenship for instance.

But it varies, i dont think there's any rule on it.

The US may not recognise it but you would still remain as a citizen of the 2nd country. I know this for a fact as I happen to know people with dual Irish/American citizenships. I would imagine the same scenario exists with Germany.

Run_to_da_hills

Paola Better Streetlight wrote: »

This will be forgotten fairly soon I reckon. Same as most big news stories these days really...
Plus there weren't any Israeli civilians involved in this so they (customs officials etc.) wouldn't be too harsh on them I'd reckon.

I travelled to Israel in 1986, the option back then was a stamped slip of paper in your passport instead of it being stamped. If you were foolish to get your passport stamped it would have been impossible to travel into any of the neighbouring Arabic countries at the time. I believe things have not changed much since then and rightly so.

ldxo15wus6fpgm

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

I traveled to Israel in 1986, the option back then was a stamped slip of paper in your passport instead of it being stamped. If you were foolish to get your passport stamped it would have been impossible to travel into any of the neighbouring arabic countries at the time. I believe things have not changed much since then and rightly so.

Didn't even think of arabic countries... I have no intentions of travelling out there :P was thinking more like around africa/americas/EU

karma_

Paola Better Streetlight wrote: »

Didn't even think of arabic countries... I have no intentions of travelling out there :P was thinking more like around africa/americas/EU

The North African countries would be Arab for sure, also I;m led to believe very hospitable and friendly although I havn;t had the chance to travel there myself.

Run_to_da_hills

Paola Better Streetlight wrote: »

Didn't even think of arabic countries... I have no intentions of travelling out there :P was thinking more like around africa/americas/EU

Most of Africa is Arabic except SA.

ascanbe

InTheTrees wrote: »

I dont see the wisdom. Or the propaganda value.

I can see foreign governments quickly washing their hands of their citizens who choose to switch rather using it as a cause.

But we'll see.

Perhaps, you can't see the wood for the trees..

Manic Moran

InTheTrees wrote: »

If you have dual in the US, the US authorities wont recognize anything other than your US citizenship for instance.

That's not actually true, I had to do a lot of research on this one to commission into the US Army.

The US recognises dual citizenship by birthright. If you're born in America of Irish parents, you get both Irish and US citizenship by default, the US has no problem with this. It's not as if you had anything to do with it. What the US does have issue with is acquired citizenship. If you're born just as an American citizen, you go live in Belgium for ten years, then apply for Belgian citizenship, the US takes that as renouncing your US citizenship because you have taken active steps towards another country.

Any Americans on that fleet would, I think, do well to decline the Palestinian passport.

NTM