10 reasons not to buy the iPhone 4G.

Dman001

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/apple/7800676/10-reasons-not-to-buy-Apples-new-iPhone-4G.html

I just read this online and it must be the most pathetic list of seen from a rather reputable newspaper.

First on their list is it is expensive. It hasn't even been announced yet, they don't know what price Apple will set it at.

Further on down the list is that it doesn't have Multitasking. Sigh, OS 4.0 is all I'll say.

Its battery life is terrible. Again it hasn't been announced yet. Infact Apple usually improve battery life in their devices.

Ridiculous list.

Owen

Expensive? Modmyi are saying the 32 gig should be 200 dollars with network subsidy, and the 64 gig 300 dollars. If that's even coverted into Euro on a 1:1 basis, it's value.

mcw92

that article is an epic fail!
Matt Warman thinks he knows all about it, but he actually knows nothing!ha

banquo

Everyone register and comment

But seriously. Total fail.

banquo

Update: They've disabled comments.

shofukan

It will be expensive though.. X hundred and something's a lot of money for anything!

bigjohnny80

Unreal

Looks like it was never reviewed.. is he serious....wow

Sad Professor

I just came across this via Gruber. Funny stuff.

Creamy Goodness

The telegraph is reputable?

seanor3 wrote: »

It will be expensive though.. X hundred and something's a lot of money for anything!

they charge what they can get away with, it may seem expensive but iphone's are luxury items no matter what way you look at them, you nor i need one but we still have them.

Tom Dunne

Creamy Goodness wrote: »

The telegraph is reputable?

Generally it is. I find their iPhone App quite good (ironically).

What a very ill-informed article.

Jax Teller

what an android fanboi he is .

copacetic

as noted in the comments, that looks like a planned evil hook/link bait article and it's worked nicely! apple and iphone topics are perfect for it.

IamMetaldave

Load of b@!!ox...

Dades

the cheapest way you can turn your overpriced iPhone into a satnav is with a £19.99 app

Obviously doesn't read Boards!

Laziest article ever. The worst thing about it is that he doesn't mention that the iPhone has no freakin' RADIO!

Inquitus

If you want a smartphone and are a technotard, buy an iPhone, if you want a smartphone and are not a technotard, buy a Nexus One or a HTC desire (or whatever comes out next).

Fat_Fingers

As a neither fan nor hater i feel I'm right person to debate it since i own it. :eek:

[HTML]1) It’s expensive: Buy the top-of-the-range Blackberry or Android handset and you will still pay a lot less than the extortionate prices Apple charge. If the iPhone weren’t made by Apple, networks would have had to start giving it away on £30 a month tariffs years ago. [/HTML]

+1

2) It’s anti-technology: When the iPhone launched it was cutting edge – now as other manufacturers announce, for instance, that you can use their phones as shareable wifi hot spots, Apple says no. Not because of some spurious “user experience” argument, but because of economics. When will they learn that it’s customers – supply and demand – that should dictate feature availability?

-1

3) No Flash: The iPhone, the phone that promised to put the web into everybody’s pockets, can’t even show you most of it, because it can’t handle Flash graphics. Google Android can, in the latest version (OS 2.2), and it’s going to be available free on a lot of budget tariffs.

+1

4) No multitasking: Tried instant messaging on an iPhone? Oh yes, you have to open the app to see if you’ve got a message. Genius. If Apple announces multitasking next it will be an improvement – but there’ll be no apology for the way it’s treated customers in the past, and no guarantee it won’t behave similarly shoddily in the future.

Neither + or - as it should be judged on OS 4

5) Its battery life is terrible: This isn’t a problem unique to Apple, but look at phones by companies such as HTC – multitasking, better cameras, better screens, all draining their batteries far more – and yet the iPhone, with its undemanding technology, still only offers equal performance.

+1

6) Developing apps for it is costing you money: The special version of the BBC iPlayer, of Natwest Phone Banking, of Eon’s meter reader – developing all of these came out of money that could have been channelled away from a self-important minority and towards more generally useful ideas.

-1

7) It comes with offensively bad headphones: Sit next to somebody using the original iPhone or iPod headphones and you can hear everything they can. It’s another example of Apple charging premium prices, but delivering a dressed up, budget product.

+1

8) It’s not very well designed: Use the iPhone as a phone and it’s not got great reception, nor is it particularly comfortable to use for long periods. It’s a computer that happens to have a phone bolted on – jack of two trades, but master of neither.

-1

9) It charges for satnav: In an age when Nokia and Google Android provide completely free mapping and satnav facilities, the cheapest way you can turn your overpriced iPhone into a satnav is with a £19.99 app. Bargain.

Neither, Apple might introduce free Satnav as have Nokia

10) Those iPod docks are holding back better technologies: As every hotel increasingly thinks it should provide iPod docks, the momentum behind this technology is only growing. But if it wasn’t for the iPod and iPhone’s ubiquity, there’d be more wifi radios, more new technologies and a range of different options, competing and driving innovation.

-1

Bluefoam

I agree with the article, but he failed to note that you cannot use allot of the stand out features if you live in Ireland - even though the Irish are charged a premium over other countries - no visual voice mail, no tv episodes, no ebooks etc...

Leiva

Dman001 wrote: »

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/apple/7800676/10-reasons-not-to-buy-Apples-new-iPhone-4G.html

Tom Dunne

Bluefoam wrote: »

but he failed to note that you cannot use allot of the stand out features if you live in Ireland - even though the Irish are charged a premium over other countries - no visual voice mail, no tv episodes, no ebooks etc...

Why would a UK newspaper be concerned with what works and does not work in Ireland?

Bluefoam

Tom Dunne wrote: »

Why would a UK newspaper be concerned with what works and does not work in Ireland?

Because they just copy & pasted it from an Irish paper: independent.ie

Leiva

Bluefoam wrote: »

Because they just copy & pasted it from an Irish paper: independent.ie

Fooking Plagiarism Gits

Inquitus

Bluefoam wrote: »

Because they just copy & pasted it from an Irish paper: independent.ie

10) Those iPod docks are holding back better technologies: As every hotel increasingly thinks it should provide iPod docks, the momentum behind this technology is only growing. But if it wasn’t for the iPod and iPhone’s ubiquity, there’d be more wifi radios, more new technologies and a range of different options, competing and driving innovation.

- Matt Warman

© Telegraph.co.uk

Wrong way round

Dades

Bluefoam wrote: »

I agree with the article...

What, all of it? Surely not...

I mean why is this rant under multitasking?

4) No multitasking: Tried instant messaging on an iPhone? Oh yes, you have to open the app to see if you’ve got a message. Genius. If Apple announces multitasking next it will be an improvement – but there’ll be no apology for the way it’s treated customers in the past, and no guarantee it won’t behave similarly shoddily in the future.

He might as well write "I don't care if they introduce multitasking I don't like Apple and will continue to not like them".

You'd swear people were forced to buy these 'shoddy' devices at gunpoint instead of queuing around the block to get their hands on one.

Dman001

And it is quite possible that Apple will release their own free Sat Nav as they purchased the map service PlaceBase last year. Google isn't exactly in Apple's good books recently so I wouldn't be surprised to see Google Maps being replaced by their own Maps soon.

kjl

Clearly the author has never heard of jailbreaking.

RATM

But what about the Adobe Flash issue? Or does that only apply to the iPad?

I'm thinking of buying an iPhone soon but I'm dubious on this issue. I had a MiniMac a few years back and I'd never go back to owning one again simply because of the lack of software for it (for music downloading I must admit) My head was wrecked trying to get around all Apple's little tricks at trying to ensure I couldn't download illegal music so in the end I flogged it and went back to PC.

If Apple are playing more tricks with this Abode issue then I think I might try the SE Xperia which is getting good reviews. It may not have the same amount of apps as the Iphone (200,000 I think) but it does have 60,000 odd, i.e. more than you could ever use.

I'm going to sit on the fence for a few moths on this one and see how it plays out. Cause the point the journalist makes about the iPhone being expensive and over prices is valid- the iPhone is more a triumph of marketing over substance which is reflected in its huge price relative to other similar devices. And even more so when you consider the pathetic wages that Foxcomm were paying their Chinese workers. The jurys out for me.....

Sad Professor

RATM wrote: »

I had a MiniMac a few years back and I'd never go back to owning one again simply because of the lack of software for it (for music downloading I must admit) My head was wrecked trying to get around all Apple's little tricks at trying to ensure I couldn't download illegal music so in the end I flogged it and went back to PC.

I'm not quite sure what you mean here. Apple don't have any "tricks" to prevent you downloading music via p2p on the Mac.

NotExactly

3) No Flash: The iPhone, the phone that promised to put the web into everybody’s pockets, can’t even show you most of it, because it can’t handle Flash graphics. Google Android can, in the latest version (OS 2.2), and it’s going to be available free on a lot of budget tariffs

You can download an app even on the 2g Iphone that enables flash.Not as good as it should be but still works. The shape has also been changed to allow more space for a battery with longer battery life.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQtdLJgmiB8

banquo

Um, most of the Internet is not in Flash. Actually, most of it isn't in flash.

99% of people have absolutely no idea what flash is or does. Until all the hubbub about it now being on iPad I had no idea it wasn't on my iPhone for two years.

It's used mainly for porn, ads and YouTube. iPad and iPhone come with a YouTube client to play videos. I don't think anybody actually misses flash on the iPhone.

Also, it's really, really slow on mobile devices. Like ridiculously slow. And suddenly that 99% are having a ****ty browsing experience and don't know why so they blame the phone.

Also, it's just a phone. It doesn't need flash.

Also also, open standards ftw.

Inquitus

banquo wrote: »

Um, most of the Internet is not in Flash. Actually, most of it isn't in flash.

99% of people have absolutely no idea what flash is or does. Until all the hubbub about it now being on iPad I had no idea it wasn't on my iPhone for two years.

It's used mainly for porn, ads and YouTube. iPad and iPhone come with a YouTube client to play videos. I don't think anybody actually misses flash on the iPhone.

Also, it's really, really slow on mobile devices. Like ridiculously slow. And suddenly that 99% are having a ****ty browsing experience and don't know why so they blame the phone.

Also, it's just a phone. It doesn't need flash.

Also also, open standards ftw.

That's crap. All the interactive content on the BBC News site is Flash, not just video clips. Flash is a huge part of the web, and whilst perhaps you can ignore that limitation on a phone if you are an apple fanboi, its a gaping hole in the iPad surfing experience. And Apple certainly doesnt believe in openness.

whiterebel

RATM wrote: »

But what about the Adobe Flash issue? Or does that only apply to the iPad?

I'm thinking of buying an iPhone soon but I'm dubious on this issue. I had a MiniMac a few years back and I'd never go back to owning one again simply because of the lack of software for it (for music downloading I must admit) My head was wrecked trying to get around all Apple's little tricks at trying to ensure I couldn't download illegal music so in the end I flogged it and went back to PC.

If Apple are playing more tricks with this Abode issue then I think I might try the SE Xperia which is getting good reviews. It may not have the same amount of apps as the Iphone (200,000 I think) but it does have 60,000 odd, i.e. more than you could ever use.

I'm going to sit on the fence for a few moths on this one and see how it plays out. Cause the point the journalist makes about the iPhone being expensive and over prices is valid- the iPhone is more a triumph of marketing over substance which is reflected in its huge price relative to other similar devices. And even more so when you consider the pathetic wages that Foxcomm were paying their Chinese workers. The jurys out for me.....

Apple have a responsibility to the Record Companies as they sell their music legitimately, not that they stop anyone downloading illegally if they want. Come to think of it, once you downlaod from any source you can add it to iTunes, no matter where it came from. If you're talking about just being able to share as you like, well the reason for that is stated above.

If the Mac Mini wasn't for you, you'd probably be better off with the Sony rather then the iPhone.

And Apple aren't the only ones who use Foxconn, you do know that, don't you?

Graham

Sorry inquitus, but having owned and used (very regularly) an iPad for over 2 months now, I've never once missed having flash.

BBC news works great on the iPad, certainly the parts I've used have never required flash. Bizarrely there's also an absolutely superb iPad app that has video and radio support, it's probably one of the best iPad apps available.

You're going to have to come up with a much better retort than 'fanboi' if you're seriously trying to persuade me that flash is a 'must have'.

I'd be interested if you could list the last 3 mobile phones you owned and detail exactly which ones supported flash.

Flash available on these mobile phones/platforms:
Nokia - NO
Sony Ericsson - NO
Motorola - NO
HTC - NO
Windows Mobile - NO
Android -NO (but really buggy/crash-prone beta available some time soon)

So please, enlighten us. Which phone do you use that doesn't have the gaping hole that is lack of flash support?

Bluefoam

Graham wrote: »

Flash available on these mobile phones/platforms:
Nokia - NO
Sony Ericsson - YES
Motorola - YES
HTC - YES
Windows Mobile - NO
Android -YES

So please, enlighten us. Which phone do you use that doesn't have the gaping hole that is lack of flash support?

Stop talking utter ****e...

Oafley Jones

Bluefoam wrote: »

Stop talking utter ****e...

Nokia also yes.

Tom Dunne

Bluefoam wrote: »

Stop talking utter ****e...

Lets keep the personal comments out of it.

And for the record, Flash works like a pig on my N900 - if I was a non-techie user, I would be blaming the phone, not the website.

Exactly what Apple do not want to happen.

Graham

Bluefoam wrote: »

Stop talking utter ****e...

You wouldn't be talking about the crippled flash-lite there would you BlueFoam?? I'd be really interested in seeing a couple of screenshots/video of you playing Farmville on your mobile phone.

listermint

Graham wrote: »

You wouldn't be talking about the crippled flash-lite there would you BlueFoam?? I'd be really interested in seeing a couple of screenshots/video of you playing Farmville on your mobile phone.

you play farmville.....

Graham

Report on flash demo for Android last month:

http://jeffcroft.com/blog/2010/may/08/android-flash-demo-flashcamp-seattle/

Graham

listermint wrote: »

you play farmville.....

My point exactly listermint, I don't play flash based games and I don't miss adverts that automatically expand to fill my screen with the virtues of Sun's latest superhero thingamybob.

Inquitus

Graham wrote: »

Sorry inquitus, but having owned and used (very regularly) an iPad for over 2 months now, I've never once missed having flash.

BBC news works great on the iPad, certainly the parts I've used have never required flash. Bizarrely there's also an absolutely superb iPad app that has video and radio support, it's probably one of the best iPad apps available.

You're going to have to come up with a much better retort than 'fanboi' if you're seriously trying to persuade me that flash is a 'must have'.

I'd be interested if you could list the last 3 mobile phones you owned and detail exactly which ones supported flash.

Flash available on these mobile phones/platforms:
Nokia - NO
Sony Ericsson - NO
Motorola - NO
HTC - NO
Windows Mobile - NO
Android -NO (but really buggy/crash-prone beta available some time soon)

So please, enlighten us. Which phone do you use that doesn't have the gaping hole that is lack of flash support?

I have an Ipad and the little blue squares annoy the hell out of me, read a BBC article on how they are going to cap the oil well in the US, instead of getting the flash based graphics of the 5 steps, I get the little blue square of nothing, this is repeated the web over. I tend to agree with the reader above that on the iphone its less of a deal, as the surfing experience on a 3.x" screen is quite limited, but on the huge real estate of the iPad its simply criminal flash is not available and a huge swathe of the web is blocked off.

I have a HTC Desire running Froyo with full flash support, it can show me all of the web, not just blue squares on half the major news sites.

The iPad is a great bit of kit, don't get me wrong, but mine will be sold on adverts early next year when the uncrippled Android Tablets start to mature.

Graham

That's the great thing about competition, you can decide what's important to you and make your buying decisions accordingly.

I'm sure there will be some excellent Android tablets out in time. Will they stand up next to the iPad, I don't know, but I personally can't wait to try one.

By uncrippled, I'm assuming you mean will they run particular proprietary software (flash isn't open btw), they probably will. Will this be relevant by the time that happens, only time will tell.

chrislad

I can't say I've missed flash for anything bar some odd Kotaku feeds.

Dman001

I never missed Flash on the iPhone. Apps allow a much more stable and user friendly experience with certain Flash-based Websites like Joost released Apps.

Im liking the look of HTML 5 going by the examples published on Apples Website.

copacetic

I don't miss flash so much on the iphone (but wish it had it). I'd miss it badly on the ipad for the various TV catch up sites like rte player etc and embedded flash videos on a lot of the sites I'd use for news.

chrislad

Pity RTE won't pull their finger out and release an app. Not like we're paying for the service.

copacetic

chrislad wrote: »

Pity RTE won't pull their finger out and release an app. Not like we're paying for the service.

Thats the point though, everyone with a developed flash service is now supposed to invest in a non-flash version just so the Iphone and Ipad can use it? What if you do a html5 version and Apple later decide they don't like that either, where does it all end?

I'd imagine most content will become available as the services gradually move to html5 over the next few years but I doubt anyone will rush it. Hulu etc have already said they won't, although a paid app will likely arrive before then.

(also, you aren't paying for the service, all the rte online stuff is fully commercially funded. I'm sure they will develop an app if and when it makes more commerical sense than all the other development they are working on)