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Recording Police Officers becomes illegal in 12 states

  • 02-06-2010 9:48pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,729 ✭✭✭✭


    And counting?

    Im not at all pleased by these rulings. I support the Cops a lot. A lot a lot. But they still need to be held accountable, and this is a leap away from that.
    In response to a flood of Facebook and YouTube videos that depict police abuse, a new trend in law enforcement is gaining popularity. In at least three states, it is now illegal to record any on-duty police officer. Even if the encounter involves you and may be necessary to your defense, and even if the recording is on a public street where no expectation of privacy exists.
    The legal justification for arresting the "shooter" rests on existing wiretapping or eavesdropping laws, with statutes against obstructing law enforcement sometimes cited. Illinois, Massachusetts, and Maryland are among the 12 states in which all parties must consent for a recording to be legal unless, as with TV news crews, it is obvious to all that recording is underway. Since the police do not consent, the camera-wielder can be arrested. Most all-party-consent states also include an exception for recording in public places where "no expectation of privacy exists" (Illinois does not) but in practice this exception is not being recognized.
    Massachusetts attorney June Jensen represented Simon Glik who was arrested for such a recording. She explained, "[T]he statute has been misconstrued by Boston police. You could go to the Boston Common and snap pictures and record if you want." Legal scholar and professor Jonathan Turley agrees, "The police are basing this claim on a ridiculous reading of the two-party consent surveillance law - requiring all parties to consent to being taped. I have written in the area of surveillance law and can say that this is utter nonsense."
    The courts, however, disagree. A few weeks ago, an Illinois judge rejected a motion to dismiss an eavesdropping charge against Christopher Drew, who recorded his own arrest for selling one-dollar artwork on the streets of Chicago. Although the misdemeanor charges of not having a peddler's license and peddling in a prohibited area were dropped, Drew is being prosecuted for illegal recording, a Class I felony punishable by 4 to 15 years in prison.
    In 2001, when Michael Hyde was arrested for criminally violating the state's electronic surveillance law - aka recording a police encounter - the Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court upheld his conviction 4-2. In dissent, Chief Justice Margaret Marshall stated, "Citizens have a particularly important role to play when the official conduct at issue is that of the police. Their role cannot be performed if citizens must fear criminal reprisals…." (Note: In some states it is the audio alone that makes the recording illegal.)
    The selection of "shooters" targeted for prosecution do, indeed, suggest a pattern of either reprisal or an attempt to intimidate.
    Glik captured a police action on his cellphone to document what he considered to be excessive force. He was not only arrested, his phone was also seized.
    On his website Drew wrote, "Myself and three other artists who documented my actions tried for two months to get the police to arrest me for selling art downtown so we could test the Chicago peddlers license law. The police hesitated for two months because they knew it would mean a federal court case. With this felony charge they are trying to avoid this test and ruin me financially and stain my credibility."
    Hyde used his recording to file a harassment complaint against the police. After doing so, he was criminally charged.
    In short, recordings that are flattering to the police - an officer kissing a baby or rescuing a dog - will almost certainly not result in prosecution even if they are done without all-party consent. The only people who seem prone to prosecution are those who embarrass or confront the police, or who somehow challenge the law. If true, then the prosecutions are a form of social control to discourage criticism of the police or simple dissent.
    A recent arrest in Maryland is both typical and disturbing.
    On March 5, 24-year-old Anthony John Graber III's motorcycle was pulled over for speeding. He is currently facing criminal charges for a video he recorded on his helmet-mounted camera during the traffic stop.
    The case is disturbing because:
    1) Graber was not arrested immediately. Ten days after the encounter, he posted some of he material to YouTube, and it embarrassed Trooper J. D. Uhler. The trooper, who was in plainclothes and an unmarked car, jumped out waving a gun and screaming. Only later did Uhler identify himself as a police officer. When the YouTube video was discovered the police got a warrant against Graber, searched his parents' house (where he presumably lives), seized equipment, and charged him with a violation of wiretapping law.
    2) Baltimore criminal defense attorney Steven D. Silverman said he had never heard of the Maryland wiretap law being used in this manner. In other words, Maryland has joined the expanding trend of criminalizing the act of recording police abuse. Silverman surmises, "It's more [about] ‘contempt of cop' than the violation of the wiretapping law."
    3) Police spokesman Gregory M. Shipley is defending the pursuit of charges against Graber, denying that it is "some capricious retribution" and citing as justification the particularly egregious nature of Graber's traffic offenses. Oddly, however, the offenses were not so egregious as to cause his arrest before the video appeared.
    Almost without exception, police officials have staunchly supported the arresting officers. This argues strongly against the idea that some rogue officers are overreacting or that a few cops have something to hide. "Arrest those who record the police" appears to be official policy, and it's backed by the courts.
    Carlos Miller at the Photography Is Not A Crime website offers an explanation: "For the second time in less than a month, a police officer was convicted from evidence obtained from a videotape. The first officer to be convicted was New York City Police Officer Patrick Pogan, who would never have stood trial had it not been for a video posted on Youtube showing him body slamming a bicyclist before charging him with assault on an officer. The second officer to be convicted was Ottawa Hills (Ohio) Police Officer Thomas White, who shot a motorcyclist in the back after a traffic stop, permanently paralyzing the 24-year-old man."
    When the police act as though cameras were the equivalent of guns pointed at them, there is a sense in which they are correct. Cameras have become the most effective weapon that ordinary people have to protect against and to expose police abuse. And the police want it to stop.
    Happily, even as the practice of arresting "shooters" expands, there are signs of effective backlash. At least one Pennsylvania jurisdiction has reaffirmed the right to video in public places. As part of a settlement with ACLU attorneys who represented an arrested "shooter," the police in Spring City and East Vincent Township adopted a written policy allowing the recording of on-duty policemen.
    As journalist Radley Balko declares, "State legislatures should consider passing laws explicitly making it legal to record on-duty law enforcement officials."
    Wendy McElroy is the author of several books on anarchism and feminism. She maintains the iconoclastic website ifeminists.net as well as an active blog at wendymcelroy.com.

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    Do you believe this accountability keeps them honest, or do you think it sterilizes them?

    I for one don't see why a Cop doing everything he should be doing should need to be concerned about public recordings. I could see why Publishing rights may need to change (Youtube no; Courtrooms yes) but I think giving the Police a blind eye is going to result in a lot of Bad.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 888 ✭✭✭Mjollnir


    Overheal wrote: »
    And counting?

    Im not at all pleased by these rulings. I support the Cops a lot. A lot a lot. But they still need to be held accountable, and this is a leap away from that.

    http://gizmodo.com/5553765/are-cameras-the-new-guns

    Do you believe this accountability keeps them honest, or do you think it sterilizes them?

    I for one don't see why a Cop doing everything he should be doing should need to be concerned about public recordings. I could see why Publishing rights may need to change (Youtube no; Courtrooms yes) but I think giving the Police a blind eye is going to result in a lot of Bad.

    Judicious (pardon the pun) editing, for one. I know of several CA departments that now have their officers carry/use video recorders on their persons, not just the dashboards, to have a record of any arrest, interaction, etc...

    There have been far too many spurious lawsuits against cops claiming that things were said, abuse occurred, etc... where there is no audio/video record.

    I myself carry a digital sound recorder when on duty that looks like pen in my front shirt pocket, and activate every time I approach a driver or a ped who I want to talk to.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 47,528 CMod ✭✭✭✭Black Swan


    Overheal wrote: »
    Do you believe this accountability keeps them honest, or do you think it sterilizes them?
    I remember a bystander filming of the Rodney King beatings by uniformed police. King may have been a bad sort, but law enforcement is to be held to a higher standard, and therefore should not worry about some bystander filming of their official and public actions.

    There are numerous documentary films of the Chicago police riots during the Democratic convention many years ago. The police lost control of themselves, and broke the laws they were attempting to enforce.

    It would seem that filming of arrests by police would work to their advantage, if they too are filming, and their behaviour is lawful.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,641 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    I believe that though the 12 States do have the 'two-party-consent' rule, many of them have had an exception carved out of it by the Courts. For example, I believe Washington State is one of those, but the 9th Circuit ruled that police have no expectation of privacy in the performance of their public duties, which covers the 9 Western States and two territories, so feel free to record cops in Washington.

    Last I heard, only two states, IL and MD had a two-party-consent rule, and have not had an exemption carved out for the police by higher courts.

    NTM


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