High TBCs

red bull

I have a recent problem with high tbc, never had a problem before, cant find the problem can anyone help ?

whelan1

in plate cooler do you have one if so clean it out

whelan1

also if you are using a hot wash is the water hot enough we had a tbc problem a few months ago and i found out that the lad i had milking was filling the hot sink for washing before milking:eek: so the water was cold before the wash started as a result stuff built up in the pipes and we had to change a load of pipes and the detergent and problem solved - took a while though:mad:

djmc

Also check tank is sucking in detergent ok when washing

bbam

whelan1 wrote: »

also if you are using a hot wash is the water hot enough we had a tbc problem a few months ago and i found out that the lad i had milking was filling the hot sink for washing before milking:eek: so the water was cold before the wash started as a result stuff built up in the pipes and we had to change a load of pipes and the detergent and problem solved - took a while though:mad:

Ensure you have enough hot water so you can let the first few galons back go on the floor, this will have heated the pipework and will be cold on return, you will acheive a hotter wash if you disgard this as it cools the rest of the water..

Plate coolers definitely need opening once a year although if its older it can be a nightmare keeping the gaskets on the plates when you split it..

Check out rubberwork, once it's gone it can't be cleaned properly.... But when you are doing hot wash ensure to keep to the correct detergent dosages, a little more might seem like a good idea but it will strip the inside of rubber in no time..

The vacuum line between the receiver jar and sanitry jar can build up crud and if left can be real nasty..

whelan1

i assume you are descaling once a week , we tried to stretch it to every 10 days - doesnt work

irishh_bob

whelan1 wrote: »

i assume you are descaling once a week , we tried to stretch it to every 10 days - doesnt work

descaling twice a week is completle excessive , we do it twice a year and our water is quite limey , despite this , we havent failed a tbc test in years

whelan1

would never dream of doing it twice a week although twice a year is a bit rare i think

browned

u should identify where the problem is. get 5 sample tubes off the co-op and test the following areas.

1 if u have jars take a sample from one of them. this will test if u are cleaning the teats properly
2 take a sample from the drain of the collection jar during a milking. this will test if ur milk lines and collection jar are clean
3 take a sample from the point at which milk enters the tank. this will test ur plate cooler.
4 take a sample from the bulk tank after the first milking has cooled. this will test if tank is cooling properly
and finally
5 take a sample before the milk lorry arrives. this will tell u if the bulk tank is cleaned properly.

if u see a jump between any of these samples u'll know wat area is causing the problem

djmc

I used to descale every couple of weeks but now just do it every few months
and dont have any problem.
The water here is fairly acidic no limestone whatsoever.
I also keep the powder wash for 3 days reuseing same rinse morning and evening and start with fresh mix on day of collection.
Only time I have tbc problem is when tank auto washer breaks down

pms7

Myself and my neighbour went from 15 to 480 (max result) tbc. His went back to 13 following test, mine to 210. I averaged 13 in May. Dairygold do not like admitting they are at fault. Waiting on next test, while fighting with Dairygold....

whelan1

if 480 is the max result how come i got 1138,000 as a tbc yesterday never ever got one that high b4 last tbc was 6,000

blue5000

whelan it must be that workman of yours again!!

pms7

What creamery are you with, and what are they saying. I reckon if the milk was 1.1 mil in your tank, you'd be shovelling it out.

Think more likely some sample bottles are seeing too much sun or the testing machine on the blink.

There is no way someone goes from 20 to 480 to 13 in a week and it's his fault.

whelan1

blue5000 wrote: »

whelan it must be that workman of yours again!!

he really feeling sorry for himself wants me to let him go as if he leaves he has to wait 16 wks for dole i want some sort of payment towards damage first:D going to ring dairy again i with glanbia

blue5000

I think a lot of these problems could be caused by students working in the lab for the summer, who might'nt have a clue how to count the little dots and then feed it into a computer;)

aristo

Just out of interest who has a twin stage plate cooler? would definately reduce it a good bit.

whelan1

what do you mean by a twin stage ... we have an in plate cooler alright waiting to get 2 tbc results back before the end of the month fingers crossed

aristo

Chiller unit builds up an ice bank on night rate electricity and passes water in a coil through this to the second stage of the plate cooler, so it cools milk alot more than normal water temp in the first stage

whelan1

just got my thermoduric for the day of really high tbc and its 10 :eek: now i ask you how could tbc be that high