Is there such thing as south tipp accent and north tipp accent ?

rob55

would south tipp be more influced in their accents by cork/waterford and north tipp galway/offaly or do we both have our own distingtive accents?:D

Junco Partner

dont think theres much difference between accents but definetly in the things we say

carmel27

Dunno, but none of ye, North or South, can pronounce you're "th"s. E.G. Im going to Thurles [Turles] for the [de] day.:D

questionmark?

I definitely hear a difference in how people here in clonmel talk compared to some people from more rural areas of south tipp!

JamieK

Well Carrick most definitely has it's own accent!

Saaaake boy

Junco Partner

questionmark? wrote: »

I definitely hear a difference in how people here in clonmel talk compared to some people from more rural areas of south tipp!

im getting sick of hearing ye say alrite kiiid and bud fethard people do it too

tuxy

I notice a difference in accent between Thurles and Cashel people and the towns are only about 12 miles apart.

irishleedsfan

I notice a big difference between my own (Tipp town) and other areas. i wouldn't be very familiar with the north Tipp accent but id say their definitely is a difference.

tippspur

There's a big differance between the Clonmel accent and the Carrick accent that's for sure.

iceage

You can tell when your in Clonmel with the "Well!......:rolleyes:

bogtotty

There's a very flat Clonmel accent that's a bit like the Waterford one. Don't like it much. I live near Thurles and can and do pronounce my 'th-'s, thank you very much. Round here, we manage to get three syllables into 'Weeeell', and words like school and fool are said 'skoo-ell' and 'foo-ell'. Oh, I thought of an exception to the 'th-' thing: when using 'the' before a word that starts with a vowel, as in "going to a debs in d'Anner" or "look at the size of d'arse on Bridie". Pat Shortt, in other words. Don't know about Nenagh/Roscrea accents, and I won't comment on Carrick as I've only ever met skangers from Carrick and wouldn't like to tar ye all with the one brush.

bogtotty

Meant to say my least favourite Tipperary accent is the one that permatanned teenaged girls seem to have developed in recent years - kind of a cross between D4 and Californian Valley girl - I mean jaysus girls, most of ye are bog-born and farm-raised, where are ye going with yeer 'Loike, Fionn was so, loike, random, yah? My mom thinks he's loike, sooo out there, loike, yah yah..."
Makes my skin crawl.

questionmark?

f0ggy92 wrote: »

im getting sick of hearing ye say alrite kiiid and bud fethard people do it too

Who said i'm from clonmel? I'm not by the way.

Ah sure clonmel - Fethard suire kiid its da same thing bud :P

PrimalTherapy

From my time in Tipp anyone i ever met from thurles/turles said something and then added "so i am" as in

"I'm going to the dance tonight so I am."
" I will ask her to dance so i will"
and next day
"I asked her to dance so i did. "
"she danced with me so she did"
and
"I write to them every week so i do"
"They send me replies every week so they do"

Thats my post so it is;)

bogtotty

PrimalTherapy wrote: »

From my time in Tipp anyone i ever met from thurles/turles said something and then added "so i am" as in

Yep, I do that too, so I do.

mikemac

iceage wrote: »

You can tell when your in Clonmel with the "Well!......:rolleyes:

That's not just South Tipp, that's North Tipp too.

Here in North Tipp, we have veh-ic-le (next time you are a checkpoint listen well to what they learned in Templemore )and some "did you go to the shops, you did?" or " did you do go to mass you did?"

And of course " I do be at the gym" and always saying ye and not you.

ciano1

iceage wrote: »

You can tell when your in Clonmel with the "Well!......:rolleyes:

migozarad

There is definitely a noticeable difference between Clonmel&Thurles which is amazing when you consider the proximity of the places and this phenomenon replicates itself across Irl.The in-breeding (i.e. marrying your 1st common) was de rigeur up to the early part of the 20th century everywhere in rural Irl and definitely influences the proliferation of the development of localized accents/dialects.YOU CAN'T BEAT BREEDING!
Not meaning to go off on a tangent,but how annoying is it hearing teens&twentysomethings ''aping'' this generic young American accent,pitch&diction e.g ''whatever,sooooooooo,like...''In my day,you would have been ''leathered'' for that& it would have done you no harm!!

PrimalTherapy

migozarad wrote: »

There is definitely a noticeable difference between Clonmel&Thurles which is amazing when you consider the proximity of the places and this phenomenon replicates itself across Irl.The in-breeding (i.e. marrying your 1st common) was de rigeur up to the early part of the 20th century everywhere in rural Irl and definitely influences the proliferation of the development of localized accents/dialects.YOU CAN'T BEAT BREEDING!
Not meaning to go off on a tangent,but how annoying is it hearing teens&twentysomethings ''aping'' this generic young American accent,pitch&diction e.g ''whatever,sooooooooo,like...''In my day,you would have been ''leathered'' for that& it would have done you no harm!!

Was in Tipperary a lot in the last few years. Found they cannot pronounce words like junior/senior/brilliant
"The junor team are playing "and "the senor team were brillant"
And they call Ballywilliam,a place in Tipperary, Ballywillam. Same with people who are called William or last name Williams."Is Willam here" I saw Mr Willams here earlier"

JamieK

JamieK wrote: »

Well Carrick most definitely has it's own accent!

Saaaake boy

Thats true. Very like....dare i say it (unless your a blaa)........ the Waterford city accent!!

Crann na Beatha

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StereoLove

I don't think south tipp and north tipp have different accents. Some times if your listening to someone from tipp sometimes they sound like their from cork

migozarad

migozarad wrote: »

There is definitely a noticeable difference between Clonmel&Thurles which is amazing when you consider the proximity of the places and this phenomenon replicates itself across Irl.The in-breeding (i.e. marrying your 1st common) was de rigeur up to the early part of the 20th century everywhere in rural Irl and definitely influences the proliferation of the development of localized accents/dialects.YOU CAN'T BEAT BREEDING!
Not meaning to go off on a tangent,but how annoying is it hearing teens&twentysomethings ''aping'' this generic young American accent,pitch&diction e.g ''whatever,sooooooooo,like...''In my day,you would have been ''leathered'' for that& it would have done you no harm!!

Your spot on. Clonmel is notorious for trying to be like the cast from the hills whereas thurles is a proper hurling town with the proper bogger edge to their accents

DT100

Obaraten wrote: »

who gives a fcuk tbh......

The people posting ???Primal Therapy you have it spot on.....:D
I often wonder who decides the mods....A tipp mod for a tipp forum I say...Lads I will be probably be banned forever now......

Fionn

isn't it better than having no accent???

I spent some time in the united states (West coast) and there was no discernable accent (apart from the loud nasal ) :rolleyes: from the canadian border down to the mexican one - how absolutely boring!!!

Id say accents are almost household unique at the end of the day. I remember watching program about the 'Yorkshire ripper' investigation one night on BBC and they were on about the guy who led the investigation on a wild goose chase.
'Accent experts' traced the hoaxer's accent to a specific street in Sunderland.

Overall i suppose the Cork//Dublin/Tipp/Kilkenny/Northern Ireland/London/Scouse/wherever, people all sound the same to anyone outside of these regions but if psycho-analyzed we probably all have variations

PrimalTherapy

Deleted User wrote: »

'Yorkshire ripper' investigation one night on BBC and they were on about the guy who led the investigation on a wild goose chase.
'Accent experts' traced the hoaxer's accent to a specific street in Sunderland.

they did not find him though did they?I know he was found eventually but not by those 'accent experts'

PrimalTherapy

PrimalTherapy wrote: »

they did not find him though did they?I know he was found eventually but not by those 'accent experts'

They did yeah (edit) around 10 or 15 years later i think. fascinating for 1970s policing that they should have such an expert. Far cry from the image 'Life on Mars' projects.

Ballingarry near me have a very different type of accent to the other village's around but to the outsider we probably all sound the same.

PrimalTherapy

Deleted User wrote: »

Thats true. Very like....dare i say it (unless your a blaa)........ the Waterford city accent!!

Did you know a bread roll is called a bla or blah in Waterford.Why is that where is the connection?

PrimalTherapy

Deleted User wrote: »

They did yeah (edit) around 10 or 15 years later i think. fascinating for 1970s policing that they should have such an expert. .

john humble wasn't it though some say it was a stitch up. But I don't think it was the voic experts who found him was it? When the police were going around the area with tapes of the accents workers were saying 'give us one more listen' to avoid going back to work!

PrimalTherapy

PrimalTherapy wrote: »

john humble wasn't it though some say it was a stitch up. But I don't think it was the voic experts who found him was it?

Just looking at wiki there now, apparently it was DNA from the gummed seal on the envelopes of the letters that Humble (Wear-side Jack) sent to Police and daily mirror back in 78/79 which caught him out.

PrimalTherapy wrote: »

Did you know a bread roll is called a bla or blah in Waterford.Why is that where is the connection?

I understand 'blaa' is type of bread or a type of bun as you were suggesting, so one can only assume that they got the name 'blaa' from their use of the term

PrimalTherapy

Deleted User wrote: »

Just looking at wiki there now, apparently it was DNA from the gummed seal on the envelopes of the letters that Humble (Wear-side Jack) sent to Police and daily mirror back in 78/79 which caught him out.

I see that now, I thought they had lost the envelopes. Did you see
http://newsgroups.derkeiler.com/Archive/Uk/uk.local.southwest/2006-01/msg00432.html

PrimalTherapy

PrimalTherapy wrote: »

I see that now, I thought they had lost the envelopes. Did you see
http://newsgroups.derkeiler.com/Archive/Uk/uk.local.southwest/2006-01/msg00432.html

contradicts last link i gave
http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1G1-176503195.html

PrimalTherapy

DT100 wrote: »

Primal Therapy you have it spot on.....:D

and

opinion = opingon
documents = dockaments
occupied - ockapied
registered = regestered

"In my opingon the secretary should be ocakpied putting the dockaments of the regestered people in the briefcase"
"I have dockamemtary evidence of the case"

twistyj

PrimalTherapy wrote: »

From my time in Tipp anyone i ever met from thurles/turles said something and then added "so i am" as in

"I'm going to the dance tonight so I am."
" I will ask her to dance so i will"
and next day
"I asked her to dance so i did. "
"she danced with me so she did"
and
"I write to them every week so i do"
"They send me replies every week so they do"

Thats my post so it is;)

Thats a laois thing, mostly around mountmellick

PrimalTherapy

twistyj wrote: »

Thats a laois thing, mostly around mountmellick

thurless too in my experience

murty01

I'm originally from the Lorrha area of North Tipp and always thought of the accent in the area as kind of a flat accent compared to our southern cousins. There's definetly influences in the South Tipp accents from Waterford and Cork/Limerick depending on which border you're living beside. I know people in the Lorrha area with a twinge of a connaught twang due to their proximity to the border. But generally the North Tipp accent would be like that of the Laois/Offaly area.

klose

Clonmel D4 wanna be accent amongst the young ones here would drive ya demented.

LOOOOOOOIIIIIIKKKKKE

questionmark?

whippedcream wrote: »

Clonmel D4 wanna be accent amongst the young ones here would drive ya demented.

LOOOOOOOIIIIIIKKKKKE

Loooooooooiiiiiikkkke ooooooh myyy GOD i know loooooooiikkkee (said through their orange tan) d4 wana be's:rolleyes:

pooch90

You get the D4 wannabe d!cks everywhere though...........Clonmel one's no worse than any of the rest of the gobsh!tes'

grenache

As an outsider i can see a few distinct accents in Tipp, not just North and South ones:

Very North Tipp - i.e. Lorrha, Terryglass, Borrisokane - this one is a cross between a Galway and Offaly accent.

North Tipp - i.e Nenagh, Roscrea, Templemore - i always find a bit of an Offaly/Laois twang off these accents. Then again if you go towards the border with Limerick/Clare such as places like Dromineer, Newport and Ballina, the accent changes again to a more westerly one.

West Tipp - Around Tipp Town, Cappawhite, Bansha, Aherlow, etc....this one is very similar to the East Limerick accent. D'Unbelievables can trace their accent from this part of the world.

Mid Tipp - Thurles, Boherlahan, Templetuohy, etc - probably the truest version of a Tipp accent, a one that isn't really influenced by other counties, except maybe Kilkenny in parts.

South West Tipp - i.e. Ballyporeen, Clogheen - Heavily influenced the by north East Cork accent.

South Tipp - i.e. Clonmel, Carrick, Cahir, Fethard, Newcastle, etc - A mishmash of a Mid Tipp/West Waterford/Kilkenny accent.

I generally find South Tipp accents to be more subtle/rounded than North Tipp ones.

Leroy Lita

South Tipp is rougher

Otterfox

I think places like carrick pretty much have a Waterford accent which is nothing like the north Tipp accent. That said thurles has a different accent to nenagh. I think outsiders think all Tipp people talk like D'unbelievables. Nenagh people often answer the question they ask you "How are you goin' on? Are you well? You are". I find them very friendly though.

Amtmann

Whatever the Tipp accent is, I'm grateful I don't have one

tippspur

I read something in the paper about the Tipp accent being the least sexiest accent in Ireland,Donegal has the sexiest.:(

Skyrim

tippspur wrote: »

I read something in the paper about the Tipp accent being the least sexiest accent in Ireland,Donegal has the sexiest.:(

Some people just have no taste.

Otterfox

I think it's what people percieve Tipp accents to be rather than actively listening to accents from different counties and rating them. All I know is I'm from Tipp and I've a flippin' lovely accent ;-)

L0ui5e

there is defo a difference between north/south
it's hard to distinguish a person from clonmel and waterford for example.
south tipp is influenced by waterford for sure.. it's cute the way they all say 'tu' for 'two'.
north tipp is more pat shortt style..
do you notice the dropping of the 'e' sometimes. ie- 'Tipprary'?

Comhrá

I'm from the Borrisokane/Kilbarron area originally and living in Limerick for 36 years.
I can always pick up the Borrisokane (Burris, as we'd call it) accent when I hear it in Limk. or anywhere outside the motherland.

North Tipp and South Tipp are very different, and even the Kilbarron/Terryglass accent is different to the Tipp/Offaly border areas accents. I even heard the old folks say there was a difference in accent between the Terryglass and Kilbarron ends of my parish.

John.