Viessmann Gas Boiler

JohnnieK

Has anyone installed Viessmann gas boilers? I've done a few now and they are the bee's knees. Every thing is in the right place with them. 5 year warranty parts and labour and a 10 year on the heat exchanger.

I think I will champion these with Worcester to any potential customers. I dont think I will do another Potterton or Baxi as long as i Live:mad:

Let me know if any of you have installed either the Viessmann or Worcester.

yoshytoshy

I've not installed a viessman ,heard a few things about them ,nothing bad.

I like the way worcesters are put together and the especially the heat exchangers ,vertical aliminium drum.

As far as I know the viesmann have a horizontal exchanger something like the baxi duo-tec ,I wouldn't be as fond of that type of exchanger due to how small the pipework is.
Could be way off though

Micky Dolenz

You could do the Veissman course and you can extend the warrenty.

Doesn't the Veissman have the boiler that the cylinder stat is wired directly to boiler and hot water takes preference over heating? hence running hot water at higher temps for a shorter peroid while heating runs at a lower temp hence ensuring boiler stays in condensing mode longer.

JohnnieK

Micky Dolenz wrote: »

You could do the Veissman course and you can extend the warrenty.

Doesn't the Veissman have the boiler that the cylinder stat is wired directly to boiler and hot water takes preference over heating? hence running hot water at higher temps for a shorter peroid while heating runs at a lower temp hence ensuring boiler stays in condensing mode longer.

It sure dose. There is an extension modual comes with the boiler to wire the stat into. I'm booked in for the 22nd on that course.

Micky Dolenz

JohnnieK wrote: »

It sure dose. There is an extension modual comes with the boiler to wire the stat into. I'm booked in for the 22nd on that course.

Where you doing the course?

They are a great boiler and the warrenty reflects the confindence they have in their product, the only down side is the end user and it's important that the installer explains that habits have to change I.E Set hot water to come on half an hour before you set heating etc.

JohnnieK

yoshytoshy wrote: »

I've not installed a viessman ,heard a few things about them ,nothing bad.

I like the way worcesters are put together and the especially the heat exchangers ,vertical aliminium drum.

As far as I know the viesmann have a horizontal exchanger something like the baxi duo-tec ,I wouldn't be as fond of that type of exchanger due to how small the pipework is.
Could be way off though

No it's nothing like the baxi heat exchanger. It's stainless steel rectangular tubing thats about 3/4 diameter flattened down if you get my drift. I love Worcester's too. If I was changing my boiler tomorrow I would put a Worcester or Viessmann in. That's how good I think they are.

JohnnieK

Micky Dolenz wrote: »

Where you doing the course?

They are a great boiler and the warrenty reflects the confindence they have in their product, the only down side is the end user and it's important that the installer explains that habits have to change I.E Set hot water to come on half an hour before you set heating etc.

Over in Telford.

It's a 4 pipe system boiler. Two for heating and two for DHW. It would really only work in a complete refurb or new build. I have got two jobs based on the strenght of the warranty. Just finished one today. Customer is delighted with it. First thing he said to me was "I dont want any of those crap boilers like Potterton or Baxi in". I thought it was very funny.

Micky Dolenz

JohnnieK wrote: »

Over in Telford.

It's a 4 pipe system boiler. Two for heating and two for DHW. It would really only work in a complete refurb or new build. I have got two jobs based on the strenght of the warranty. Just finished one today. Customer is delighted with it. First thing he said to me was "I dont want any of those crap boilers like Potterton or Baxi in". I thought it was very funny.

But as soon as the hot water calls for heat, the heating shuts down, right?

Baxi's are only a mid range boiler at best.

yoshytoshy

Are viesmann giving away free analyzers at the moment ?, I think they're giving free sprint analyzers with every five boilers bought.

Micky Dolenz

yoshytoshy wrote: »

Are viesmann giving away free analyzers at the moment ?, I think they're giving free sprint analyzers with every five boilers bought.

wow, they are worth atleast €900

yoshytoshy

Micky Dolenz wrote: »

wow, they are worth atleast €900

Yeah ,I think it's part of their guarantee deal ,you need an analyzer to commission etc. They have the right idea on how to get people working properly.

Micky Dolenz

yoshytoshy wrote: »

Yeah ,I think it's part of their guarantee deal ,you need an analyzer to commission etc. They have the right idea on how to get people working properly.

To be fair though you need one if you commission any HE boiler. Every RGI/OFTEC would have to have one.

yoshytoshy

Micky Dolenz wrote: »

To be fair though you need one if you commission any HE boiler. Every RGI/OFTEC would have to have one.

Still doesn't stop people putting boilers in for people at knock down prices. And legging it when the boiler is fired.

Micky Dolenz

yoshytoshy wrote: »

Still doesn't stop people putting boilers in for people at knock down prices. And legging it when the boiler is fired.

You can only hope they are a dying breed. Although I am disappionted that the promised RGI public awareness advertising didn't really happen.

yoshytoshy

I think the RGII are good ,it's a realatively new thing and yet most people are aware of it.

The lads that do call outs for emergencies are very good at diagnosing dangers etc.

Spot checks is all thats needed ,expensive to carry out spot checks on a regular basis. I'm sure a budget would have to be large to sustain it in the long term.

GopErthike

yoshytoshy wrote: »

Still doesn't stop people putting boilers in for people at knock down prices. And legging it when the boiler is fired.

They are called FFF's, Fill, Fire and F*** off.

yoshytoshy

It's good that viesmann are offering the free analyzers and guarantees though ,encourages good work.

Micky Dolenz

yoshytoshy wrote: »

It's good that viesmann are offering the free analyzers and guarantees though ,encourages good work.

Don't think they care about good practice, they are in the business of selling boilers, so on that front, it is a good offer.

yoshytoshy

Micky Dolenz wrote: »

Don't think they care about good practice, they are in the business of selling boilers, so on that front, it is a good offer.

I thought they gave a five year guarantee ,based on installers carrying out certain work ?

JohnnieK

Micky Dolenz wrote: »

But as soon as the hot water calls for heat, the heating shuts down, right?

Spot on!!

JohnnieK

yoshytoshy wrote: »

I thought they gave a five year guarantee ,based on installers carrying out certain work ?

The boiler comes with a standard 3 year warranty and is increased to 5 years when installed by a Viessmann trained installer. Have to go to England to get the training.

yoshytoshy

JohnnieK wrote: »

The boiler comes with a standard 3 year warranty and is increased to 5 years when installed by a Viessmann trained installer. Have to go to England to get the training.

Didn't know that ,I thought courses were available either here or up north.
Most of the other manufacturers do courses in Dublin ,I got a free test card from worcester ,makes it easy to use a multimeter for fault finding all their boilers.

JohnnieK

yoshytoshy wrote: »

Didn't know that ,I thought courses were available either here or up north.
Most of the other manufacturers do courses in Dublin ,I got a free test card from worcester ,makes it easy to use a multimeter for fault finding all their boilers.

I have one of those cards my self yoshy. they are brilliant. The agent for Viessmann in Ireland sends installers over to Telford for the training. The only thing I have to do is get myself to the airport. It is something you should look into if you go out on your own.
It would be good to get these boilers under your belt as an option to customers they are just as good as the Worcester's.
I have noticed some customers are more concious about quality and are researching more on-line and want to get quality for there money. The last one I done I got on the strength of the warranty.

yoshytoshy

JohnnieK wrote: »

I have one of those cards my self yoshy. they are brilliant. The agent for Viessmann in Ireland sends installers over to Telford for the training. The only thing I have to do is get myself to the airport. It is something you should look into if you go out on your own.
It would be good to get these boilers under your belt as an option to customers they are just as good as the Worcester's.
I have noticed some customers are more concious about quality and are researching more on-line and want to get quality for there money. The last one I done I got on the strength of the warranty.

Viesmann will definetly be on my list of things to look into ,the guys I'd be dealing with are in precision heating that supply them.

Normally I install worcester boilers 85% ,but people do ask for baxi's based on recommendations and they seem to take offence if you speak of other brands:(
Glowworm are actually not a bad brand either ,while we're talking about boilers. They are very easy to access loads of settings and fault find.

JohnnieK

yoshytoshy wrote: »

Viesmann will definetly be on my list of things to look into ,the guys I'd be dealing with are in precision heating that supply them.

Normally I install worcester boilers 85% ,but people do ask for baxi's based on recommendations and they seem to take offence if you speak of other brands:(
Glowworm are actually not a bad brand either ,while we're talking about boilers. They are very easy to access loads of settings and fault find.

Yeah Iain Carroll is the man to talk to in there. He will give you great prices on the boilers and cylinders. They are doing a great domestic open vented stainless steel cylinder now and it only works out a little dearer than the copper one's. comes with a 20 year corrosion guaranty or some thing like that.
I have done the glow worm trainning day recently and I was impressed alright. They will be an option in the future for any sales pitches i do.

I have a friend that installs Baxi's mainly and he has done 15 since last year and 6 of them the ceramic has cracked on the electrode already.

You just dont get **** like that happening to the likes of Worcester or Veissmann.

yoshytoshy

JohnnieK wrote: »

I have a friend that installs Baxi's mainly and he has done 15 since last year and 6 of them the ceramic has cracked on the electrode already.

You just dont get **** like that happening to the likes of Worcester or Veissmann.

We've only dealt with precision on the industrial boilers before ,where they have to come out and commision the boiler ,usually 120K Btu+

It's mainly the megaflo that we deal with and the duo-tec combi. I believe the solo has a bad pilot assembly and thats what goes all the time. The solo has to be the cheapest boiler on the market at the moment.

bewhiched

Hi guys I need a new boiler where can these be bought also is there a certain model I should be buying? Have absolutely no idea on where or what I should be looking for thank you

gdavis

the size of boiler needed depends on amount of rads,type of insulation,windows,room sizes etc.an onsite visit by installer would sort that out for you.there are a lot of viessmann trained approved installers in Ireland.You have to do a bit of homework now and get a few quotes and ask questions of a few installers.Most importantly is the installation.The system must be flushed prior to installation.Enquire about heating controls etc. too. your installer should get u a better price on the boiler than u purchasing it.They are a smashing boiler and Precision Heating are the main suppliers in Ireland for them

bewhiched

Brilliant huge thank you il have to get my skates on no heating all Chimborazo thanks again have a look on line now

gdavis

until u do,have u had ur boiler looked at? what is issue with it?