Former Eircom Head to replace Brendan Drumm

opinion guy

Surprised this isn't up here yet:
http://news.eircom.net/breakingnews/17972164/?view=Standard

Whilst its good that Drumm will leave (when ?)
a former Eircom CEO ? Are you FREAKING KIDDING ME ????

Biggins

Someone with more of a medical background (be it practicable or admin') would have been better to get if available.

I wonder why this chappie got it?
Seriously? Huge wage/pension or not, having to deal with Harney alone besides the many other problems, its just not worth it.

bleg

I doubt you'll have much dealings with Harney, despite being minister for health she distances herself from her portfolio as much as possible. Most contact you'd have would be 2-3 photo ops throughout the year when a new private hospital is open or something.

bazmaiden

Its not jim is it?

TheZohanS

I hope he can box as well as him.

InReality

Well thats the HSE sorted then.
I was afraid they might find some irish "insider type" , with a poor or no track record.

And its not like they can get any worse .. or can they ?
http://www.rte.ie/news/2010/0528/children.html

37-23 = 14 this year ?

Koloman

opinion guy wrote: »

Surprised this isn't up here yet:
http://news.eircom.net/breakingnews/17972164/?view=Standard

Whilst its good that Drumm will leave (when ?)
a former Eircom CEO ? Are you FREAKING KIDDING ME ????

Well maybe we need someone from a business backround to whip those dinosaur unions into shape.

I would've preferred Willie Walsh myself if he had been available.

My name is URL

He's currently a director with EBS and on the management board of VHI.. can't say he's not got experience to be fair

Cheap Thrills!

Here did I hear right today...did the HSE has appoint a former banker to 'sort them out'....?

HSE =Suspiciously lost track of between 18 and 200 dead kids. When asked how, was not sure, so much information so seemingly impossible to attain....yet they're double sure it was 18 not 200, because.....they say so...

But did news get buried about this or did they really appoint an ex banker :eek:

If so, Belief = well and truly beggared

MagicMarker

Cheap Thrills! wrote: »

Here did I hear right today...did the HSE has appoint a former banker to 'sort them out'....?

HSE =Suspiciously lost track of between 18 and 200 dead kids. When asked how, was not sure, so much information so seemingly impossible to attain....yet they're double sure it was 18 not 200, because.....they say so...

But did news get buried about this or did they really appoint an ex banker :eek:

If so, Belief = well and truly beggared

The clue is in the thread title.

brianthebard

Koloman wrote: »

Well maybe we need someone from a business backround to whip those dinosaur unions into shape.

I would've preferred Willie Walsh myself if he had been available.

Yeah he's certainly shown he knows what he's doing....

Did someone say the other day that whoever got it should be getting a seven figure salary?

MagicMarker

Deleted User wrote: »

Did someone say the other day that whoever got it should be getting a seven figure salary?

I'd have no problem with that so long as they earn it. This is our health service ffs! Pay them as much as they want so long as they're qualified and will get results!

Cheap Thrills!

MagicMarker wrote: »

The clue is in the thread title.

Right, but he sat on more than one Board. Didn't notice he was with eircom! :cool:









Imbibing the state sponsored legal high! Its called 'Beer' :eek: this stuff is NuTs !! Be careful this sh!t is inSaNe :eek:

opinion guy

My name is URL wrote: »

He's currently a director with EBS and on the management board of VHI.. can't say he's not got experience to be fair

Didn't know how was with VHI. Hmm but thats not necessarily a good thing - would give you a skewed view of things.

Cheap Thrills! wrote: »

But did news get buried about this or did they really appoint an ex banker :eek:

6 o clock on a friday announcement.
Anyone know if this guy has anyone FF/PD ties ?


Seriosuly thou. For the life of me. Why can they not hire someone who has experience in healthcare AND managment. I mean these people are about. There are doc's out there with MBA's. There are doc's/nurses working in industry. There are peopel who actually have a relevant skillset. this guy's been involved with eircom, ebs and vhi which makes a massive loss. o dear!!

4theVoiceless

Out of total disgust of the current childcare revelations, because of HSE incompetance I want to send an e-mail expressing such outrage and disgust to the top, where the buck stops i.e. The Taoiseach but want to CC Professor Drumm and the incoming from EirCON to HSE CEO.
Extensive google search for their e-mails has yielded nada - any1 know of contact details?

My name is URL

They should have asked Gerry Robinson to take over temporarily and appoint someone once he has things fixed up a bit

xsiborg

so- the head of two former semi state companies, that have reported massive losses in recent years, now gets to head up the national health system. as if it could get any worse!

at least now i know why mary harney insisted that any other private health company entering the irish market had to pay a huge compensation levy to VHI. this is back scratching of the highest order!

Sonnenblumen

opinion guy wrote: »

Surprised this isn't up here yet:
http://news.eircom.net/breakingnews/17972164/?view=Standard

Whilst its good that Drumm will leave (when ?)
a former Eircom CEO ? Are you FREAKING KIDDING ME ????

Medical background? No! Ah no problem.
Any previous relevant experience? No. No problem.
Any specific expertise ? Yeah, plenty of experience in creating long queues and bad service. Great! You'll do nicely, when can you start!
:eek::mad::(

Biggins

New HSE boss at centre of storm over old job at EBS

Saturday May 29 2010

THE newly appointed Health Service Executive (HSE) chief was at the centre of a storm yesterday only hours before it was announced he had been chosen for the top job.
Cathal Magee was berated from the floor at the annual general meeting of the EBS for being one of the long-serving directors who gave the go-ahead for its involvement in commercial property lending.
Mr Magee (56) will take over as the €228,466 head of the HSE after Prof Brendan Drumm ends his five-year term in August.

The former managing director of Eircom's retail businesses was instrumental in negotiating a deal with trade unions, which saw 1,200 jobs going over two years and pay cuts of up to 10pc for staff.
Announcing his appointment yesterday, the HSE described him as a central leadership figure in the transformation and restructuring of the company.

Experienced

Chairman Liam Downey said: "The board is very pleased to have attracted a highly experienced professional for the position of chief executive.
"Cathal Magee has an extensive record of implementing change and performance improvement in a number of organisations and different environments."
The HSE had hired a firm of head-hunters as part of its search for a new chief. But it had to go back to the drawing board after the favourite, former cancer tsar Tom Keane, withdrew his name after it is believed he failed to get guarantees on funding and staffing.

Regarded as the ultimate poisoned chalice, Mr Magee takes over the HSE at a time of major difficulties in the health service including:

* Cuts in budgets to hospitals which are forcing bed closures and reductions in surgery.
* Resistance from unions to the Croke Park deal and opposition to key changes such as staff re-deployment.
* Opposition from local communities to the downgrading of hospitals.
* A shortage of junior doctors, which threatens to curtail opening hours of hospital emergency departments.
* A moratorium on recruitment which is leading to serious unplanned shortages of staff in several crucial services.
* Ongoing criticism of the management of child-protection services.

Senior sources who worked with Mr Magee at Eircom in the past said last night that he was a tough operator and his experience in dealing with trade unions would stand to him in his new role at the HSE. "Cathal is very tough but he is also a negotiator," said one management source who worked alongside Mr Magee at Eircom.
"His human-resources background from Bord na Mona and Eircom and his experience with the unions will be very helpful at a body which needs to cut costs," said another source.
"He is used to working with the different strands of an organisation and understands how they interact."

An additional source who worked with Mr Magee at Eircom added that while his business background would be a sea change for the HSE, it could be very useful.
"Considering the current economic climate, this is probably why the Government chose to look to the business sector for a new chief executive. Cathal is soft-spoken but he is also very driven."

Commenting on Mr Magee's appointment last night, Fine Gael spokesman on health James Reilly said that the new chief faced a tough test in restoring people's trust in the health service and transforming the current dysfunctional system into a patient-focused service.
He added: "He must ensure an end to the horrible, self-serving system which has manifested itself in the scandals in Portlaoise, the north east and Tallaght, to mention but a few."

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/new-hse-boss-at-centre-of-storm-over-old-job-at-ebs-2199776.html

Hellrazer

This ex-head of eircom could actually be good for the HSE.

Introduce a "3 strikes and youre out system" ie get sick more than 3 times in a year and youre not entitled to any treatment for the next 12 months.

No more hospital queues!!

Biggins

Hellrazer wrote: »

...Introduce a "3 strikes and youre out system" ie get sick more than 3 times in a year and youre not entitled to any treatment for the next 12 months.

No more hospital queues!!

So Leukaemia (for example) sufferer gets sick for a forth time - they get sidelined?
Aye, that idea will work all right!

enda1

Cheap Thrills! wrote: »

Here did I hear right today...did the HSE has appoint a former banker to 'sort them out'....?

HSE =Suspiciously lost track of between 18 and 200 dead kids. When asked how, was not sure, so much information so seemingly impossible to attain....yet they're double sure it was 18 not 200, because.....they say so...

But did news get buried about this or did they really appoint an ex banker :eek:

If so, Belief = well and truly beggared

Well luckily you are wrong so seeing as he's not a banker.

Being a director of a financial institution does not make you a banker, just like being a director of Manchester United does not make you a footballer.

Hellrazer

Biggins wrote: »

So Leukaemia (for example) sufferer gets sick for a forth time - they get sidelined?
Aye, that idea will work all right!

The thread is in AH--yer slow this morning.

Biggins

Hellrazer wrote: »

The thread is in AH--yer slow this morning.

Wrong.
I'm slow every morning!

(...although the wife says sometimes "slow" is good!)

Sonnenblumen

enda1 wrote: »

Well luckily you are wrong so seeing as he's not a banker.

Being a director of a financial institution does not make you a banker, just like being a director of Manchester United does not make you a footballer.

Foreign owners rejected Magee's app for top job at Eircom, where he's worked for years! Wonder why he has landed top job at HSE?

Magee is a career civil/public servant and it's just more of the same at HSE/DoH.

Disapppointing really but not surprising.

opinion guy

Biggins wrote: »

New HSE boss at centre of storm over old job at EBS



http://www.independent.ie/national-news/new-hse-boss-at-centre-of-storm-over-old-job-at-ebs-2199776.html

So it sounds to me like Harney has brought in an axe merchant to continue the longrunning FF/PD plan to degrade the public service. The other guy who turned it down did so cause he coudn;t get guarantees on jobs.

Ooooo thar be trouble ahead, yarrrrr

enda1

Sonnenblumen wrote: »

Foreign owners rejected Magee's app for top job at Eircom, where he's worked for years! Wonder why he has landed top job at HSE?

Magee is a career civil/public servant and it's just more of the same at HSE/DoH.

Disapppointing really but not surprising.

I never said he was a good choice, just that he's not a banker.

He got the job because no one else would, they are offering too little for one of the hardest, least rewarding jobs going.

Its also unfair to say he's a career public or civil servent when he's never been one. Eircom were semi-state then private for quite some time.

Azy

enda1 wrote: »

I never said he was a good choice, just that he's not a banker.

He got the job because no one else would, they are offering too little for one of the hardest, least rewarding jobs going.

Its also unfair to say he's a career public or civil servent when he's never been one. Eircom were semi-state then private for quite some time.

The new head of the HSE did previously work in one of the area Health Boards....and he was a civil servant.

Sonnenblumen

enda1 wrote: »

I never said he was a good choice, just that he's not a banker.

He got the job because no one else would, they are offering too little for one of the hardest, least rewarding jobs going.

Its also unfair to say he's a career public or civil servent when he's never been one. Eircom were semi-state then private for quite some time.

Are you a runner-upper? No point arselicking 'round here. A long serving semi-stater is amongst other things a public servant, except Eirocm were crap at service but good at esop.

They should ask Taliban to take control of HSE, that'll soon sort out that dysfunctional organization.

enda1

Sonnenblumen wrote: »

Are you a runner-upper? No point arselicking 'round here. A long serving semi-stater is amongst other things a public servant, except Eirocm were crap at service but good at esop.

They should ask Taliban to take control of HSE, that'll soon sort out that dysfunctional organization.

If you're not able debate like and adult then I wont bother with you. Eircom have been private since 1999, 11 years ago!

The Taliban, really? Good one.

Azy wrote:

The new head of the HSE did previously work in one of the area Health Boards....and he was a civil servant.

Didn't realise he worked in the health boards in his early career, thanks for clearing that up.

Sonnenblumen

enda1 wrote: »

If you're not able debate like and adult then I wont bother with you. Eircom have been private since 1999, 11 years ago!

The Taliban, really? Good one.



Didn't realise he worked in the health boards in his early career, thanks for clearing that up.

Start doing them lines!