Change use from commercial to private?

rodneys

Hi All, I am looking at a commercial 4x4 (which has seats in the back) and was wondering can it be changed over to private use and if so how and more importantly how much??? does anyone know how to do this or has anyone done it?
Thanks

Slidey

Easy to change to private. Waltz into your tax office, they will do it there and then for ya.


If it is a 3.0l it will go from 288 to over 1300 a year to tax

rodneys

Thanks for that Slidey, didnt think it would be that simple !

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rodneys wrote: »

Hi All, I am looking at a commercial 4x4 (which has seats in the back) and was wondering can it be changed over to private use and if so how and more importantly how much??? does anyone know how to do this or has anyone done it?
Thanks

Will they not charge you VRT then? As commerical is much cheaper than the car!! Bloody Goverment.

Eric Cartman

you cannot put the rear seats of a commercial converted jeep back in, the mounts have been destroyed ,and VRT will be payable , best just buying a passenger or a crewcab if you need the rear seats

paddy147

Eric Cartman wrote: »

you cannot put the rear seats of a commercial converted jeep back in, the mounts have been destroyed ,and VRT will be payable , best just buying a passenger or a crewcab if you need the rear seats

Also no incurance company would pay out,and it would be you who would be liable and foot the bill for anyone who was in the back and injured in the event of an accident.You would be had up in court too by the gardai.


If you cant afford to tax it ot just dont want to pay out for the tax it,then dont buy it....simple as that.

Slidey

If you read the OP he wants to tax it privately as it has seats fitted and ATM is taxed commercially

paddy147

Slidey wrote: »

If you read the OP he wants to tax it privately as it has seats fitted and ATM is taxed commercially

He doesnt say if its a Crew cab like an L200 or Hilux or Navara or a normal 7 seater passenger jeep like a passenger Hilux or Pajero that has been comercialised and then had the back seats sneakily put back in,but is still taxed as a commercial.


My reply above was also adding to Cartmans point,my point being that insurance would not cover or pay up.

Trying to make a fast buck or save a few pennies in a way will like this,will eventually catch up with you down the line.

Commercial jeep means just that....commercial use/work use

Private jeep means just that...................private/passenger use.

Its as simple as that.

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paddy147 wrote: »

He doesnt say if its a Crew cab like an L200 or Hilux or Navara or a normal 7 seater passenger jeep like a passenger Hilux or Pajero that has been comercialised and then had the back seats sneakily put back in,but is still taxed as a commercial.


My reply above was also adding to Cartmans point,my point being that insurance would not cover or pay up.

Trying to make a fast buck or save a few pennies in a way will like this,will eventually catch up with you down the line.

Commercial jeep means just that....commercial use/work use

Private jeep means just that...................private/passenger use.

Its as simple as that.

What happens if you need a proper jeep not crewcab things for commercial use but must carry passenger? Our stupid system dosent account for that!

paddy147

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What happens if you need a proper jeep not crewcab things for commercial use but must carry passenger? Our stupid system dosent account for that!

Commercial crew cab jeep....like an l200 or Hilux or Navara


OR

Commercial with only 2 seats,driver and passenger front seats...Like Pajero Sport,Patrol,Trooper etc.

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What happens if I want a Landcruiser 5 Seater for work? I'm using this for commercial purpose yet am being taxed as private car owner.

gofaster_s13

Theanswers wrote: »

What happens if I want a Landcruiser 5 Seater for work? I'm using this for commercial purpose yet am being taxed as private car owner.

You used to be able to tax them commercial except everyone was exploiting it and buying top spec stuff and using them for private use to take advantage of cheap tax.

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gofaster_s13 wrote: »

You used to be able to tax them commercial except everyone was exploiting it and buying top spec stuff and using them for private use to take advantage of cheap tax.

True,
But It should'nt make a difference. The law down here is rediculess, the only way to get a decent jeep for resonable money is to rip it apart...

paddy147

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What happens if I want a Landcruiser 5 Seater for work? I'm using this for commercial purpose yet am being taxed as private car owner.

Its not a commercial,so you will have to insure it and tax it as a private/passenger jeep.Get your head around it.

If you want a commercial 5 seater for work matters,then buy a crew cab van like a transit,sprinter,or vito crew cab.

Simple as.

paddy147

gofaster_s13 wrote: »

You used to be able to tax them commercial except everyone was exploiting it and buying top spec stuff and using them for private use to take advantage of cheap tax.

It was a certain well known car dealer that got caught out several years ago now,and had to pay a HUGE tax bill and also a huge fine back to the state.

he was all over the RTE news and also the newspapers when he got nabbed for it.

He was caught out in the end,after he was importing in new expensive BMW and other SUVs and jeeps,taking out the interiors,vrting and taxing them as commercial,but then putting back in the interiors and selling them to the public as private suv/jeeps.In other words FRAUD on a massive scale.

It was this dodgey dealer that caused the laws to be changed and the system to become so much stricter.

gofaster_s13

paddy147 wrote: »

It was a certain well known car dealer that got caught out several years ago now,and had to pay a HUGE tax bill and also a huge fine back to the state.

he was all over the RTE news and also the newspapers when he got nabbed for it.

He was caught out in the end,after he was importing in new expensive BMW and other SUVs and jeeps,taking out the interiors,vrting and taxing them as commercial,but then putting back in the interiors and selling them to the public as private suv/jeeps.In other words FRAUD on a massive scale.

It was this dodgey dealer that caused the laws to be changed and the system to become so much stricter.

Up until a few years ago you could buy, and tax an ordinary jeep with seats as commercial so long as VRT had been paid, every garage in the country was selling them we DOEed hundreds of them here, what that garage was doing was dodging VRT the revenue office was involved as the jeeps were "inspected"(interiors were never removed) in a Dublin revenue office, seems strange that a Longford garage would use a Dublin Renenue office to VRT the vehicles

Eric Cartman

gofaster_s13 wrote: »

You used to be able to tax them commercial except everyone was exploiting it and buying top spec stuff and using them for private use to take advantage of cheap tax.

the VRT office didnt give a sh*te in dublin , back in 2001-2002 a relation of mine bought a new ford galaxy , removed the 2 rearmost seats folded down the middle row of seats and screwed in some chipboard panels on the floor and insides of the vehicle, brought it to the VRT office, walked away with commercial VRT, taxed it as a commercial, removed the panels and drove it as a full 7 seater ,

when i went in in 2008 with my kia sorento they had a huge checklist of everything to make sure I couldnt put the seats back into it.

paddy147

gofaster_s13 wrote: »

Up until a few years ago you could buy, and tax an ordinary jeep with seats as commercial so long as VRT had been paid, every garage in the country was selling them we DOEed hundreds of them here, what that garage was doing was dodging VRT the revenue office was involved as the jeeps were "inspected"(interiors were never removed) in a Dublin revenue office, seems strange that a Longford garage would use a Dublin Renenue office to VRT the vehicles

Im not talking about that "jeep" dealer in Longford.I know who you are talking about aswell.

Im refering to a wealthy and well known car dealer here in Dublin,him and his son basicly commited massive fraud by dodging the system.And then selling on to the public as new private crew cabs, jeeps and suv,s.

They got caught out and had a massive tax and fine bill to pay to the state and to revenue.It was all over the news and in the papers.

Since then,all the laws and DOE ruls have been really strictly tightened up as to avoid it happening again.