IDA Jobs

liammur

Good to see Dublin, Galway and Cork get more IDA jobs. Everyone else can commute lol.
What a shambles the IDA are.

RichardAnd

Call them a shambles if you will but they have brought jobs into the country and continue to do so. I worked for a company brought to ireland by the IDA and so do many of the people I graduated from college with. They aren't perfect, but they are far from a shamble.

If you want a real mess, look at FAS.

murphaph

liammur wrote: »

Good to see Dublin, Galway and Cork get more IDA jobs. Everyone else can commute lol.
What a shambles the IDA are.

Where would you like to see them bring the jobs?

The IDA can't put a gun to a potential employer's head and force them to locate in ballygobackwards if they don't want to. Employers want a pool of employees to choose from, they get this in the larger cities. They don't get this in small provincial towns and villages.

You should be glad ANY jobs are being created ANYWHERE in Ireland right now to be honest, even if you are on the dole, because those jobs will help sustain that dole.

Nijmegen

I have experience of working with the IDA.

They push heavily for companies to invest in the "BMW" regions - Border, Midlands and West - and offer far more incentives - tax breaks, cash assistance with employees wages, investment grants, etc - to invest in underdeveloped regions than in any of the big cities.

But, as another poster indicated, one cannot force a company to locate somewhere. At the end of the day their decision is based on economic and business factors: Where can I get the best workforce? Where am I closest to my peer group of companies? Where can I get the best services? Etc.

The IDA is internationally recognised as one of the very best FDI agencies in the world. That's not Ireland blowing smoke up its own arse (for once), I've spoken to people globally who know the brand and speak highly of them.

gandalf

Of all the Government Agencies I would class the IDA as one of the few better ones. As has been pointed out they cannot force a company to locate somewhere they don't want to.

The chances are the companies decisions to locate are based on a lot of different factors only one of which would be grants for basing themselves in the BMW regions for example. They may need good transport links, access to an Airport with direct links to their Headquarter country, access to a suitably qualified pool of employees, good communications infrastructure.

Aidan1

Everyone else can commute

Ideally not. It would be far better if they could live in the cities themselves, preferably in cycling or walking distance of their palce of work.

The companies chose to locate in cities for a whole range of reasons (briefly, access to services, a pool of labour and third level education functions, andexternal economic of scale). The IDA cannot compel them to locate in the back end of no where - in the vast majority of cases, the decision for FDI comes down to between a city in Ireland and a city elsewhere in Europe. Personally, I'm glad they chose Ireland at all from time to time.

None of this is new really, the type of industry we're now aiming for has very little interest in locating outside of a city, a trend that has been developing for the last number of years. It is a given that the economic recovery, just like the growth during the 1990s, will primarily be an urban phenomenon. I'm sure we'll hear politicians giving out about the 'death of rural Ireland', but the reality is that it has long been a goner in the sense in which they mean.

fricatus

murphaph wrote: »

Where would you like to see them bring the jobs?

It would be nice to see them doing something for Limerick and Waterford, both of which are the main urban centre for regions of around 400k population. They seem to have no problem getting employers to locate in Galway, even though it's more remote from Dublin/the UK/the continent.

Nijmegen wrote: »

I have experience of working with the IDA.

They push heavily for companies to invest in the "BMW" regions - Border, Midlands and West - and offer far more incentives - tax breaks, cash assistance with employees wages, investment grants, etc - to invest in underdeveloped regions than in any of the big cities.

The south-east is worse off than the so-called poor west, yet employment and capital grants are not available. That needs to change.

http://www.deloitte.com/assets/Dcom-Ireland/Local%20Assets/Documents/ie_tax_KnowledgeEconomyGrantAid_0709.pdf

murphaph

Doesn't the South East have 2 large IT's, one of which must be one of the biggest IT's in Ireland. The southeast also has 2 good (toll free) roads to Dublin (or will have pretty shortly) and also rail connections, a regional airport and 2 ports. On the face of it there's not much more the country can do for the south east. Some companies have located there in the past (Bausch and Lomb spring to mind) but again, if the companies don't want to locate there, there's not much that can be done about it, they just don't want to locate there.

Perhaps they just don't rate the workforce <ducks for cover>

Nidot

liammur wrote: »

Good to see Dublin, Galway and Cork get more IDA jobs. Everyone else can commute lol.
What a shambles the IDA are.

So you're saying companies should locate away from qualified staff, transport links, quality support services, suppliers and customer.

Tipp Man

murphaph wrote: »

Perhaps they just don't rate the workforce <ducks for cover>

Them Blaa's are pretty stupid alright:D

Tipp Man

with regards to the original post, we have got to take any jobs, anywhere that we can, beggers can't be choosers and all that

Anyway the EA jobs is a great coup, high skilled, high wage jobs can only be good for this country

I just think its a shame that we focus so much on the FDI's. It would be nice if Irish companies were to get as much support as the FDI's. We desperately need indigenous industry

invinciblePRSTV

fricatus wrote: »

The south-east is worse off than the so-called poor west, yet employment and capital grants are not available. That needs to change.

http://www.deloitte.com/assets/Dcom-Ireland/Local%20Assets/Documents/ie_tax_KnowledgeEconomyGrantAid_0709.pdf

Excellent point Fricatus, it's time we stopped focusing on trying to stimulate peripheral regions with resultant wastage of public money (as seen all over the West & Midwest) in our small country and instead centralise our resources into trying to make the country as a whole attractive to FDI.

If it means people have to leave the west, north west or southeast to find jobs in the main areas of population & economic activity on our island then so be it.

thebman

Tipp Man wrote: »

with regards to the original post, we have got to take any jobs, anywhere that we can, beggers can't be choosers and all that

Anyway the EA jobs is a great coup, high skilled, high wage jobs can only be good for this country

I just think its a shame that we focus so much on the FDI's. It would be nice if Irish companies were to get as much support as the FDI's. We desperately need indigenous industry

The EA jobs are customer support jobs are they not?

Its not games development but why won't my game work now you turned off your DRM server EA type of job.