England vs Barbarians, Sunday 30 May 5pm SS3

thomond2006

http://www.rugby365.com/news/2437560.htm
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15 Paul Warwick, 14 Paul Sackey, 13 Casey Laulala, 12 Florian Fritz, 11 Cedric Heymans, 10 Jean-Baptiste Ellisalde, 9 Byron Kelleher
8 Xavier Rush (captain), 7 Martyn Williams, 6 Rodney So'oialo, 5 Ben Kay, 4 Ross Skeate, 3 Julian White, 2 Benoit August, 1 Rodrigo Roncero

Replacements: 16 Ken Owens, 17 Census Johnston, 18 Jerome Thion, 19 George Smith, 20 Pierre Mignoni, 21 Fabrice Estebanez, 22 David Smith




15 Ben Foden, 14 Mark Cueto, 13 Mike Tindall, 12 Shontayne Hape, 11 David Strettle, 10 Charlie Hodgson, 9 Danny Care,
8 Nick Easter (captain), 7 Steffon Armitage, 6 James Haskell, 5 Tom Palmer, 4 Dave Attwood, 3 Paul Doran-Jones, 2 Steve Thompson, 1 Jon Golding.

Replacements: 16 Lee Mears, 17 Tim Payne, 18 Dan Ward-Smith, 19 Joe Worsley, 20 Joe Simpson, 21 Olly Barkley, 22 Mathew Tait.

Date: Sunday, May 30
Venue: Twickenham, London
Kick-off: 17.00 (16.00 GMT)
Referee: Jérôme Garces
Assistant referees: Romain Poite, Pascal Gauzere
TMO: Bob Ockenden, David Matthews

With no Leicester players available, England look very week indeed (no Cole, Deacon, Moody, Youngs, Flood, Hipkiss).

With no Wilkinson either, Johnno turns to Charlie Hodgson to pull the strings at 10.

The Baa Baas are very strong in the back row and from 9 to 13. Let's hope all the Toulouse players get a chance to 'be themselves'. They have some quality replacements too.

ScrubsfanChris

Thats some Barbarians team, can't see past a Ba's Ba's win here.

Ciaran-Irl

ScrubsfanChris wrote: »

Thats some Barbarians team, can't see past a Ba's Ba's win here.

You can never call that. Not with the hangovers they'll have.

Disappointed not to see more Irish lads involved. I always am.

outwest

england picked a poor team, hodgen is back at 10, the babas will tear them apart. 20 plus im going for

thomond2006

outwest wrote: »

england picked a poor team, hodgen is back at 10, the babas will tear them apart. 20 plus im going for

To be fair, the Leicester players' absence leave a huge void. Bar Phil Dowson, Courtney Lawes and Chris Ashton (strangely all Northampton Saints) I can't think of many players who would massively improve that team. Hartley and Wilkinson are injured too.

Judgement Day

Could be a try fest but when England are down and out with nowhere to go...and without Borthwick - could this be the future? I realise that he is down to play for Sacracens v Leicester in the Guinness Premiership Final on Saturday but Lewis Moody is named as captain for the tour of Australia. Incidentally, Jonny Wilkinson fans may be glad to know that his injuries sustained in the European Challenge Cup Final were minor and he will be in the tour party for Australia.

C'MON ENGLAND!

thomond2006

Gotta save my atrocious betting weekend with a few quid on the Barbarians. C'mon lads.

bleg

TV?

thomond2006

bleg wrote: »

TV?

Sky Sports 3

wixfjord

thomond2006 wrote: »

Gotta save my atrocious betting weekend with a few quid on the Barbarians. C'mon lads.

Same as! Frack that thing of not betting on the ba bas

irishbucsfan

thomond2006 wrote: »

Gotta save my atrocious betting weekend with a few quid on the Barbarians. C'mon lads.

I have a feeling you'll be breaking out a few tissues...

funky penguin

Wow, definitely a yellow, armitage was well in

thomond2006

Christ Almighty.

Stev_o

Warwick deciding that he's playing tag rugby.

Kiwi_knock

The Baa Baas must still be feeling the effects of their exerts last night

thomond2006

Stev_o wrote: »

Warwick deciding that he's playing tag rugby.

and then he kicks the ball away :rolleyes:

Judgement Day

What stream is everybody watching on? Iraq goals not working for me. Please!!

thomond2006

The Baa Baa's defence is awful.

B0X

thomond2006 wrote: »

Gotta save my atrocious betting weekend with a few quid on the Barbarians. C'mon lads.

Hate that :P

amacachi

Are they experimenting with a new set of rules today? Or is there another reason why they didn't bother tackling him?

funky penguin

England playing some lovely running rugby, but awful awful defence from Baa Baas

thomond2006

I have a feeling you'll be breaking out a few tissues...

Judgement Day

Got it now - 20 Nil to England - God is home!!

thomond2006

****ing disgrace to the jersey they are.*
























*Opinion may be related to my wager.

outwest

warick is playing awful, poor tackle

Judgement Day

Classy try from England!

thomond2006

What's the score now?

PJ Maybe

25-7 at half time.

pappyodaniel

Judgement Day wrote: »

What stream is everybody watching on? Iraq goals not working for me. Please!!

it's working for me. http://iraqgoals.net/8937-rugby-england-vs-barbarians.html

pappyodaniel

Try for Tindall.

Stev_o

Only MJ would manage to take off two of his better playing players (Attwood and Golding) and replaces them with two useless players then fail to realise Tindall is dead on his feet and instead take of Hape. What a absolute ejit when it comes to managing hasnt a clue. Why Care is still on the field i just don't know!

Stev_o

Ill laugh if England loose this, what a shambles of a regime:rolleyes:

Stev_o

England bore the world to death in the last stages of the game as they are completely outplayed, nothing's changed just more weight to the argument that the managerial staff are utter clueless. Thompson, Attwood Golding, Cueto and to a degree Tindall can be happy with themselves the rest can go feck off to the pastures.

outwest

martin is a joke of a coach,
his decisions are awful

england are a poor team with johnson as coach, nothing but overhyped.


if cockers was given the team i bet england would be world class,

Judgement Day

Wow, the begrudgers are out in force! Just back from the pub from the second half and I'm delighted, apart from my 15/8 win with P.Power, and England thoroughly deserved the win. After disappointment on all Irish fronts this season I'll take my happiness wherever I can find it. Thought Cueto had a stormer - is there a Man of the match in Baa Baa fixtures? Anyway, possibly one of the worst Baa Baa performances for years with possibly one of the best English - especially considering their missing and injured players. Anybody who is a genuine rugby follower will know how hard it is to keep the concentration levels up, especially in defence, when your team is 'apparently' cruising. How many times have we seen it? Any **** the begrudgers - I'm happy.

Judgement Day

outwest wrote: »

england picked a poor team, hodgen is back at 10, the babas will tear them apart. 20 plus im going for

Sore loser judging from your last post.

irishbucsfan

Judgement Day wrote: »

Wow, the begrudgers are out in force! Just back from the pub from the second half and I'm delighted, apart from my 15/8 win with P.Power, and England thoroughly deserved the win. After disappointment on all Irish fronts this season I'll take my happiness wherever I can find it. Thought Cueto had a stormer - is there a Man of the match in Baa Baa fixtures? Anyway, possibly one of the worst Baa Baa performances for years with possibly one of the best English - especially considering their missing and injured players. Anybody who is a genuine rugby follower will know how hard it is to keep the concentration levels up, especially in defence, when your team is 'apparently' cruising. How many times have we seen it? Any **** the begrudgers - I'm happy.

Fair play but I think you're crazy. Thought England were played off the pitch in the second half. The only thing I'd agree with you about is Cueto.

Thought the best players on the pitch were Cueto, Heymans, Ellisalde, Roncero, Laulala, maybe Armitage in parts and So'oialo. And Johnston and the Smiths were very impressive subsitutes.


England were very lucky that they were playing the Barbarians today, because if this game had been important, and actually meant something to these players they wouldn't have walked in such simple tries.

thomond2006

Didn't watch the second half, good to see it wasn't a trouncing.

Did the fans boo England's last try? The Beeb says so.

irishbucsfan

thomond2006 wrote: »

Didn't watch the second half, good to see it wasn't a trouncing.

Did the fans boo England's last try? The Beeb says so.

Didn't see that. They did boo England when they elected to kick at the end, but I understand it.

thomond2006

irishbucsfan wrote: »

Didn't see that. They did boo England when they elected to kick at the end, but I understand it.

Oops, meant penalty, not try.

Risteard

Judgement Day wrote: »

Wow, the begrudgers are out in force! Just back from the pub from the second half and I'm delighted, apart from my 15/8 win with P.Power, and England thoroughly deserved the win. After disappointment on all Irish fronts this season I'll take my happiness wherever I can find it. Thought Cueto had a stormer - is there a Man of the match in Baa Baa fixtures? Anyway, possibly one of the worst Baa Baa performances for years with possibly one of the best English - especially considering their missing and injured players. Anybody who is a genuine rugby follower will know how hard it is to keep the concentration levels up, especially in defence, when your team is 'apparently' cruising. How many times have we seen it? Any **** the begrudgers - I'm happy.

There is and he rightfully won it. Great attacking play.

BaaBaas defence was pretty poor for a while, especially Tindall's try but England did play well and look to play expansively when they did. All about closing out the match at the end, nothing wrong with that. They did have a prolonged period of lapsed concentration though which would be worrying from and English perspective.

anonymous_joe

outwest wrote: »

martin is a joke of a coach,
his decisions are awful

england are a poor team with johnson as coach, nothing but overhyped.


if cockers was given the team i bet england would be world class,

England aren't overhyped at all! They've the worst coach at international level by far.

They've a very talented group of players, played some very good rugby at times, and then got hamstrung by an inept coach as per usual.