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Passed overall, failed final exam ?

  • 25-05-2010 7:31pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 649 ✭✭✭


    Howdy,

    Sat an exam today and unfortunately absolutely bombed it. Am positive I failed miserably. I assumed, seeing as I had 40% going into the exam that I was grand.

    Apparently you need to pass the final exam in order to pass the year though, is this correct ?

    The book of modules says this :
    Assessment: Total Marks 200: End of Year Written Examination 50 marks; Continuous Assessment 100 marks (5 in-class assessments, 20 marks each.); Oral Assessment 50 marks (including listening).

    Compulsory Elements: End of Year Written Examination; Continuous Assessment; Oral Examination.

    Penalties (for late submission of Course/Project Work etc.): Where work is submitted up to and including 7 days late, 5% of the total marks available shall be deducted from the mark achieved. Where work is submitted up to and including 14 days late, 10% of the total marks available shall be deducted from the mark achieved. Work submitted 15 days late or more shall be assigned a mark of zero.

    Pass Standard and any Special Requirements for Passing Module: 40%.

    End of Year Written Examination Profile: 1 x 1½ hr(s) paper(s).

    Requirements for Supplemental Examination: 1 x 1½ hr(s) paper(s) to be taken in Autumn. Marks in passed element(s) of Continuous Assessment are carried forward, Failed element(s) of Continuous Assessment must be repeated (Failed Continuous Assessment and/or Oral must be retaken in the Autumn).

    http://www.ucc.ie/modules/descriptions/page110.html#CH1001

    I am very annoyed now :(. Seems as if the continuous assessment was pointless ?!


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,681 ✭✭✭confusticated


    I'd read that as meaning you just need to get 40% overall, since there's nothing extra in the special requirements bit...I could be wrong on this though...email the lecturer maybe?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 649 ✭✭✭Jeebus


    I'd read that as meaning you just need to get 40% overall, since there's nothing extra in the special requirements bit...I could be wrong on this though...email the lecturer maybe?

    I have tried to email, not gotten an answer though. Talking to one of my old lecturers and he says I will have to repeat ! It says nothing though, I am so disappointed !


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 824 ✭✭✭Nova_era


    Jeebus wrote: »
    I have tried to email, not gotten an answer though. Talking to one of my old lecturers and he says I will have to repeat ! It says nothing though, I am so disappointed !


    I'm really not sure mate... Surely the whole point in CA is that the exams you do during the year are of equal importance to the end of year exam. And if you fail for example a 10% CA test, you don't have to repeat it. So unless it says it in the BOM, I see no reason why you should have to re-sit the exam.

    I've 37% going into my exam tomorrow, so I don't see why I should have to get anything more than the 3% I need, as 40% is the pass requirement outlined in the Book of modules.. If you get what I mean.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,681 ✭✭✭confusticated


    I'm pretty sure one or two I had last year you had to pass both CA and exam, but we were told in advance about it. I know some courses do, but I imagine you'd have to have been told about it. Don't panic until you have to anyway, there's a possibility it'll have changed since your other lecturer taught it (or knew about it) - their info mightn't be up to date.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 153 ✭✭pirateninja


    What course are you doing?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8 2758675


    Nova_era wrote: »
    I'm really not sure mate... Surely the whole point in CA is that the exams you do during the year are of equal importance to the end of year exam. And if you fail for example a 10% CA test, you don't have to repeat it. So unless it says it in the BOM, I see no reason why you should have to re-sit the exam.

    I've 37% going into my exam tomorrow, so I don't see why I should have to get anything more than the 3% I need, as 40% is the pass requirement outlined in the Book of modules.. If you get what I mean.


    I'm just finished my second year of college and assignments and presentations are usually worth 60% and the exam is worth 40%.
    Even if you have gotten the full 60% in your assignments you still have to pass the exam. It's like this for every college.

    Sometimes you can pass through compensation if you have done fantastically in all other subjects.
    Otherwise, sorry!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 153 ✭✭pirateninja


    2758675 wrote: »
    I'm just finished my second year of college and assignments and presentations are usually worth 60% and the exam is worth 40%.
    Even if you have gotten the full 60% in your assignments you still have to pass the exam. It's like this for every college.

    No you don't. If you've gotten 40% in CA then you've passed, regardless of how the paper goes(As long as a minimum grade isn't required in the paper, which in most courses it isn't). The module requires a pass rate of 40% therefore if you have 40% you pass, doesn't matter if that 40% is from CA or the final exam or a combination of both.

    OP, from what I can see you'll be fine. The book of modules doesn't state that passing the final exam is a requirement and you have 40% CA. I'd email your lecturer again and ask for clarification, if they still don't reply then email the co-ordinator of your course.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8 2758675


    No you don't. If you've gotten 40% in CA then you've passed, regardless of how the paper goes(As long as a minimum grade isn't required in the paper, which in most courses it isn't). The module requires a pass rate of 40% therefore if you have 40% you pass, doesn't matter if that 40% is from CA or the final exam or a combination of both.

    OP, from what I can see you'll be fine. The book of modules doesn't state that passing the final exam is a requirement and you have 40% CA. I'd email your lecturer again and ask for clarification, if they still don't reply then email the co-ordinator of your course.

    Perhaps in Cork that is true, but I have just finished second year Journalism so I've gone through assessment/examination four times now and this is how my college works and every other one that I know people in works too. If you haven't completed everything in the course successfully, how could you possibly obtain a degree in it? That hardly makes any sense now does it?

    OP, if I were you I would ring my faculty office or login to moodle.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 153 ✭✭pirateninja


    2758675 wrote: »
    Perhaps in Cork that is true, but I have just finished second year Journalism so I've gone through assessment/examination four times now and this is how my college works and every other one that I know people in works too. If you haven't completed everything in the course successfully, how could you possibly obtain a degree in it? That hardly makes any sense now does it?

    OP, if I were you I would ring my faculty office or login to moodle.

    Firstly if you don't go to UCC then you don't know how it works, I've sat exams in UCC for 3 years now that doesn't mean I can tell you how any other college in Ireland examines or grades. Each college/university/IT has it's own system, it's own individual book of modules and it's own correcting system.

    It actually makes perfect sense to have your CA carry forward to your exam. This isn't the leaving cert and it ensures that if you have a bad day in the exam or you're just unlucky with the paper you have a certain percentage already to allow you to pass. If you fail CA then you can make it up on the paper, it works both ways.


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