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Arguments in Ireland

  • 25-05-2010 11:12am
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 30


    So I've noticed a few things when people argue or "discuss" topics in Ireland.

    People seem to try and tell other people what they saw or what they should be thinking or why something is the way it is.

    It got me thinking if this is an Irish thing or is it common around the world. Now I don’t know what it’s like in other countries but being told what to think and being constantly corrected about things you have an opinion on is how a lot of Irish have been educated, both in school and at home. Parents raise their kids the way they were raised and this carries on throughout the generations.

    Remember in school, we were told how the world worked. I remember one year in school just before I made my confirmation, I suggested to a few fellow students that I wouldn’t really care if there was a quire singing at the confirmation. This got back to the teacher that organised the quire and she went mental, told me I should be honoured at the work being put in by her and the students in the quire. I remember thinking "why is she giving me a bol*ocking for having an opinion about something?” this was typical throughout my education. This leads me to think that if this was the way Irish are educated, it’s why we are the way we are during discussions and arguments, we can’t seem to accept other people’s opinion, we seem to feel we must push our own opinion on other people.

    I also remember being dragged to mass every week by my parents and being told I should want to go to mass and that it was the right thing to do. This went on until I was old enough to tell my parents I didn’t want to go and didn’t feel any different if I went or not. They accepted my decision but I cant say they were happy about it.

    I can’t say this is true of all Irish people, that would be fairly arrogant of me, but a lot of people in Ireland seem to be like this.
    Anyone have any views on this?

    I’m not trolling by the way, this is something I have been thinking about.


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,022 ✭✭✭johnny_knoxvile


    shut up and go tell the priest you are sorry for these lies!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,919 ✭✭✭Schism


    I agree OP, I've got no problem with people who are stuck in their ways or who have strong opinions as long as they recognise I have my own ways and don't try and force theirs onto me.

    Unfortunately people with strong opinions on a subject generally make it their business to shove it down your neck.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,399 ✭✭✭Bonito


    I hate seeing "discuss" at the end of a threads opening post.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    us f***ng irish, we're worse than hitler.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,515 ✭✭✭✭admiralofthefleet


    have you been at a dolphins barn quiz night?

    questions that are usually asked are:

    what the fuck are you looking at?

    do you want to get cut?

    wanna buy drugs?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,989 ✭✭✭✭Giblet


    You should have learned to spell "choir".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Bonito wrote: »
    I hate seeing "discuss" at the end of a threads opening post.
    Yeah, it just doesn't make sense.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,239 ✭✭✭✭WindSock


    Whatever, Fcukface :pac:


    I like your name


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,399 ✭✭✭Bonito


    Bambi wrote: »
    us f***ng irish, we're worse than hitler.
    Irish people kicking the dew off the grass in the morning doesn't = Hitler.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 30 Fcukface


    Bonito wrote: »
    I hate seeing "discuss" at the end of a threads opening post.

    Good thing I didnt put it at the end of mine then


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    Bonito wrote: »
    I hate seeing "discuss" at the end of a threads opening post.

    The fear of getting detention does usually make me answer them though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 30 Fcukface


    Giblet wrote: »
    You should have learned to spell "choir".

    I really should have


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 982 ✭✭✭Dick Turnip


    Fcukface wrote: »

    I also remember being dragged to mass every week by my parents and being told I should want to go to mass and that it was the right thing to do. This went on until I was old enough to tell my parents I didn’t want to go and didn’t feel any different if I went or not. They accepted my decision but I cant say they were happy about it.

    I don't really get the point of your OP :confused: as you say yourself once you were old and mature enough to make your parents accepted your decision despite not being entirely happy about it. That sounds fairly accomodating to me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 30 Fcukface



    I don't really get the point of your OP :confused: as you say yourself once you were old and mature enough to make your parents accepted your decision despite not being entirely happy about it. That sounds fairly accomodating to me.

    I think the damage has already been done by that stage. Kids are too impressionable when young, why not accept their views from the beginning, let them form their own opinions and dont push opinions on them. As I said, not all Irish turned into the kind of person that pushes their opinion on everyone else.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,230 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    Giblet wrote: »
    You should have learned to spell "choir".

    I thought he was on about singing paper cut-outs, which are quite unusual outside the Twilight Zone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    Fcukface wrote: »
    So I've noticed a few things when people argue or "discuss" topics in Ireland.

    People seem to try and tell other people what they saw or what they should be thinking or why something is the way it is.

    It got me thinking if this is an Irish thing or is it common around the world.
    No that pretty much covers how people take in information, you either witnessed it, thought it or where told it. I'd imagine it's the same everywhere.

    The only annoying thing about Irish arguments is people don't give up, even if it's obvious to everyone including themselves that they've lost or said some stupid. Ya just have to laugh though, no point getting upset about it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,893 ✭✭✭Hannibal Smith


    have you been at a dolphins barn quiz night?

    questions that are usually asked are:

    what the fuck are you looking at?

    do you want to get cut?

    wanna buy drugs?
    haha I just lost a mouthful of tea...or should I say tay? :D


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,731 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    Fcukface wrote: »
    I really should have

    You're going to get reamed for that mistake.

    The way people argue does tend to differ from one country to another.

    It took me a while to get used to the Dutch style of "I will allow you the right to be completely and utterly wrong, it's no skin off my back" arguing.

    French-style arguing usually consists of raising your voice progressively until you can't hear the other person (or more often persons as everyone joins in) who is in any case arguing completely at cross-purposes then storming off or making up with a big cuddle.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,706 ✭✭✭120_Minutes


    its because we as a people, are emotionally retarded.


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