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Knitting for self defence

  • 24-05-2010 2:35pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 138 ✭✭


    can you help me with an experiment. if we all look up knitting will we find krav maga ads for street knitting. it seems they have a street version of everything else i look up


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,630 ✭✭✭Zen65


    "street knitting"..... love it!

    Z


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,188 ✭✭✭Doug Cartel


    Sport knitting, with all its rules, will get you killed in the real world where anything goes. Street knitting is no rules, and no holding back - none of this "knit one, pearl two" nonsense.

    It's too deadly to practice with real wool so we just knit the air at 50% speed. Those sports knitters think they're great, just because of all the scarves and jumpers they've made, but if I was ever forced to put my training to the test, I'm confident I'd whip up a three piece suit in an instant. Nothing short of that is enough to keep you safe on the cold, cold streets.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,621 ✭✭✭yomchi


    Lads this is a warning, stop dissing the knitting. You know nothing about it. Until you've done at least a scarf you are not qualified to diss it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    technically, you're all now knit-wits


  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    you can't learn to knit without patterns...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,022 ✭✭✭johnny_knoxvile


    can you knit a bullet proof vest?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,154 ✭✭✭Niall Keane


    you can't learn to knit without patterns...

    I disagree Colum, patterns belong to tourists pretending that they’ve lived in Aran, nowadays, most here will agree that we don’t need to carry out such complex and painstaking methods, now that we have automated looms and printing presses!

    I admit that there are a few craftspeople out there who actually practice the original and robust methods and who can produce quality garments, but they’re few and far between, instead most of what you’ll find nowadays consists of complex patterns and colour work just for the sake of it. And what’s the result? The colours run and fade with a few washes and it starts falling apart within weeks.

    But back to the OPs point, forget traditional or modern methods, it’s irrelevant, how are you going to knit on the street? with your traditional methods when its dark and you don’t have a candle, or when you can’t set up your electric loom to compete with? And anyway there’s no need to be at the same level as a professional to knit a scarf, nor do we have the traditional need to make garments last, who cares? we can chop and change with the fashions. That’s got to be better right?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 515 ✭✭✭martic


    Killer knitting

    Knitting continues to be one of the hot craft trends. But according to The Wall Street Journal, not every knitter is content to make a pair of socks. Irish knitter Julie Gardner, tiring of "the whole 'knitting is the new yoga' cliché," created Sock Wars, an international game modeled on Assassin, where players try to bump off their opponents before they get bumped off.
    The Sock Wars goal is to complete and send a pair of socks to your victim before an assassin completes and sends socks to you. If you receive your socks before being able to complete the ones you are working on, you're dead. You then send your incomplete socks to your assassin, who tries to complete them before receiving his killer socks in the mail. Last year 800 knitters took part, but Gardner hopes to line up corporate sponsors and include more knitters this year.
    Knitters who don't view knitting as a blood sport will probably find like-minded souls on Ravelry.com, a social network devoted to knitters and crocheters. Others may want to cast on for charity by knitting caps for the homeless, shawls for people in hospices, layette items for preemies, and afghans for Afghans. Project ideas are available online at dailyknitter.com/charity.html.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 826 ✭✭✭Jason McCabe


    My friend (not me) is an ardent knitter, a serious junkie pulled a needle on him one time and ended up getting stitched


  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I disagree Colum, patterns belong to tourists pretending that they’ve lived in Aran, nowadays, most here will agree that we don’t need to carry out such complex and painstaking methods, now that we have automated looms and printing presses!

    I admit that there are a few craftspeople out there who actually practice the original and robust methods and who can produce quality garments, but they’re few and far between, instead most of what you’ll find nowadays consists of complex patterns and colour work just for the sake of it. And what’s the result? The colours run and fade with a few washes and it starts falling apart within weeks.

    But back to the OPs point, forget traditional or modern methods, it’s irrelevant, how are you going to knit on the street? with your traditional methods when its dark and you don’t have a candle, or when you can’t set up your electric loom to compete with? And anyway there’s no need to be at the same level as a professional to knit a scarf, nor do we have the traditional need to make garments last, who cares? we can chop and change with the fashions. That’s got to be better right?
    :rolleyes:

    You're exposing your ignorance their Niall. Those patterns have been developed over hundreds of years and have clear lineages back to when those woolen garments were knitted and worn on the battlefields of Ballyhaunis, Okinawa and Siberia.

    No street will ever match the ferocity and intensity of a battlefield. Those patterns and methods, while too lethal to ever be tried at 100% in knitting circles, have been distilled from years of those staring down the hilt of naginatas and muskets. Those sport knitters can claim they'll use their alive knitting skills but i'd like to see them deal with the foul tactics employed on the battlefields of 15th Century Feudal Japan.:rolleyes:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,533 ✭✭✭iceage


    columok wrote: »
    you can't learn to knit without patterns...

    Agreed, first you must learn to knit with patterns, but then one day you have to forget the patterns and knit without them. Only then will you understand that there is no needle.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,609 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    iceage wrote: »
    Agreed, first you must learn to knit with patterns, but then one day you have to forget the patterns and knit without them. Only then will you understand that there is no needle.

    Needless ( :p ) to say, this is probably the truth!.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 826 ✭✭✭Jason McCabe


    Needless ( :p ) to say, this is probably the truth!.


    you're a smart sew and sew :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 138 ✭✭corkma


    what have I started? all this from being annoyed with krav maga ads


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,188 ✭✭✭Doug Cartel


    corkma wrote: »
    what have I started? all this from being annoyed with krav maga ads

    Oh, oh. Sounds like it's time for a schism. Corkma has abandoned the original ideals of Street Knitting. I'm forming a splinter group - Combat Street Knitting - to do martial arts and crafts the way it was meant to be done.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 138 ✭✭corkma


    you're grade will never be recognised because i've turned my back on you


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,609 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    corkma wrote: »
    you're grade will never be recognised because i've turned my back on you

    Well I'll be darned!.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,549 ✭✭✭✭cowzerp


    corkma wrote: »
    you're grade will never be recognised because i've turned my back on you


    Now your just Knit picking!

    Rush Boxing club and Rush Martial Arts head coach.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,533 ✭✭✭iceage


    corkma wrote: »
    you're grade will never be recognised because i've turned my back on you
    Well I'll be darned!.
    cowzerp wrote: »
    Now your just Knit picking!

    See what happens as soon as Purlitics are brought into it, Someone throws a stitch and it all ends in knots...feck this I'm going back to advanced Needlepoint. (Dim Mak) :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,630 ✭✭✭Zen65


    For years I practiced knitting, and I loved it. But part of me always knew there was something missing, and if ever I had to use my knitting in a real-life situation I'd probably have been ripped apart.

    So I decided to expand on my knowledge and understanding of the art, by going back to the roots and exploring the almost-lost art of crochet. This is where I found the real hidden meaning behind some of those knitting patterns that never really made sense to me. Sure I'd seen many BS applications of the patterns, basic scarves and jumpers that a child could weave, but I could never have used them in a practical sense. Now I freely combine crochet and knitting in a unique way that has seen me score victory after victory at many Ultimate Freeform Crochet tournaments. I can honestly say I think I've rediscovered the art of war(drobe).

    I'm setting up a club in Dublin shortly, under the auspices of the Material Alterations Ireland, and I'm offering six-week intensive training sessions for newbies and people who have not tried knitting or crochet before. No experience in any form of needlecraft is necessary.


    Right...... should somebody close this thread now?



    Z


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