Speed Limit Signs - How blind do the council need to be?

Berty

I may be highly pedantic or possibly just to much time on my hands but I get annoyed when I see speed limit signs with incorrect numbering on them.

60Km/h(Just for your Victor) but the stickers they use are actually 9's upside down.

Just annoying and/or technically incorrect. Does the speed limit apply?(weak argument)

homer90

Has the sun got to ya ???

Berty

homer90 wrote: »

Has the sun got to ya ???

No just sustained councils getting this wrong all over the country and I remembered whilst on the computer.

murraymarmalade

a 6 turned upside down....

speechless.

TestTransmission

way too much time on your hands

Victor

Berty wrote: »

60KPH

km/h?

Sorry, not seeing a problem.

Berty

Victor wrote: »

km/h?

That's far too pedantic for my liking. :mad:

Abelloid

'D'ya know what's really annoyin' bud?

'Six upside-down... waaaaah'.

pa990

i've heard rumours that some councils are putting the 0's upside down as well

L1011

Where are they GETTING 9 stickers in the right size from? 90km/h isn't a valid speed limit.

Neither is 70km/h, hasn't stopped Louth CC signing it in a few places mind...

emanresu

Do you mean the 60 km/h on the bottom right of this page:
http://web.archive.org/web/20050114225357/www.gometric.ie/checksigns-lg.pdf
If so, it's a 6, not a 9 upside down.


http://web.archive.org/web/20050204204059/http://gometric.ie/index.html

http://web.archive.org/web/20050401100239/www.gometric.ie/speed_sign_converter_eng.pdf

lilka

theres a road in the backa*se of the dingle peninsula somewhere that has or had a speed limit sign on both sides of the road (as they do sometimes) - one says 50, the other 80...at least none of them were upsidedown though (except both zeros of course!)

hi_im_fil

What are you complaining about? A number 6 on a sign which you think is an upside down 9? There are not any 9's for any speed limits in this country so they can't be using an upside-down 9.

Victor

Compare the sixes and nine in the green circles attached. Just two different styles.

lilka wrote: »

theres a road in the backa*se of the dingle peninsula somewhere that has or had a speed limit sign on both sides of the road (as they do sometimes) - one says 50, the other 80...at least none of them were upsidedown though (except both zeros of course!)

That sounds like its been turned around.

rubensni

they chose the Continental font when making the switch from miles to km/h happened in 2004, so as to make them more distinctive from the old, British style fonts.

Hooch

Berty wrote: »

I may be highly pedantic or possibly just to much time on my hands but I get annoyed when I see speed limit signs with incorrect numbering on them.

60Km/h(Just for your Victor) but the stickers they use are actually 9's upside down.

Just annoying and/or technically incorrect. Does the speed limit apply?(weak argument)

Ok so you think the council use upside down 9's instead of buying number 6's.....??

Bert did you think what speed limit sign they got them 9's from???;)

Last time I checked there was no speed limit with 9 in it!!!:D:D:pac::pac:

robtri

Berty wrote: »

That's far too pedantic for my liking. :mad:

km/h is too pedantic....
but a number 6 which looks like a number 9 upside down isn't

:D:D:D

Berty

nice guy always wrote: »

Ok so you think the council use upside down 9's instead of buying number 6's.....??

Bert did you think what speed limit sign they got them 9's from???;)

Last time I checked there was no speed limit with 9 in it!!!:D:D:pac::pac:

Right I will head out and take the picture of them. On the way home today I saw two more on the M7 Bypass at Limerick.

One the left of the motorway it had a 6 and the other side had a 9.

Yawns

I don't think you should be driving in your current condition without consulting a doctor first

Berty

Yawns wrote: »

I don't think you should be driving in your current condition without consulting a doctor first

Well Im also going to stop illegaly in the hard shoulder of a Motorway to take a picture of a sign.

But its important and life changing information needed for society as a whole.

Hooch

Berty wrote: »

Well Im also going to stop illegaly in the hard shoulder of a Motorway to take a picture of a sign.

But its important and life changing information needed for society as a whole.

Will you send me on your details, car reg, date, time and location.....its been too nice to be giving out tickets.....but in your case i'll make an exception:D:D:p:p:pac::pac:

Berty

nice guy always wrote: »

Will you send me on your details, car reg, date, time and location.....its been too nice to be giving out tickets.....but in your case i'll make an exception:D:D:p:p:pac::pac:

It doesn't stop them in Limerick.

Last week it was sunny for 4 days out of 5(Mon-Fri). The GTC were doing speed checks in a "fish barrel shoot" for 4 of them. One day was raining. Which day, considering the roads were more dangerous when it was raining, do you think they were not doing the speed checks?

smash

Berty wrote: »

The GTC were doing speed checks in a "fish barrel shoot" for 4 of them.

They probably had their guns upside down and thought everyone was doing 90.

KamiKazi

Berty wrote: »

It doesn't stop them in Limerick.

Last week it was sunny for 4 days out of 5(Mon-Fri). The GTC were doing speed checks in a "fish barrel shoot" for 4 of them. One day was raining. Which day, considering the roads were more dangerous when it was raining, do you think they were not doing the speed checks?

Were you honestly expecting any better from our buys in blue?

I've a huge amount of respect for the Gardai in general, speed checks are nothing but revenue generatoring exercises though.

stevenmu

I checked with my contact in the council and he confirmed that the 9's were in fact originally upside down 6's, so in fact they're actually just turning them the right way up again :pac:


I do get annoyed by bad signage too though. For e.g. at Sandyford the northbound on-ramp to the m50 has a 50kph speed limit sign, but there's no sign further down the road for the motorway limit, so either the 50kph sign is wrong and you can do full motorway speed down the on-ramp, or you have to drive 50kph along the m50. Similarly there's a part where it changes from 120kph to 100kph, but if you take one of the off-ramps and come straight back on you don't see the 100kph speed limit sign meaning you could legitimately think the speed limit it 120kph.

smash

stevenmu wrote: »

but if you take one of the off-ramps and come straight back on you don't see the 100kph speed limit sign meaning you could legitimately think the speed limit it 120kph.

I'm sure there'd be a 100 sign as you come back down the ramp, or a 50 as you come off the ramp.

Victor

Berty wrote: »

It doesn't stop them in Limerick.

Last week it was sunny for 4 days out of 5(Mon-Fri). The GTC were doing speed checks in a "fish barrel shoot" for 4 of them. One day was raining. Which day, considering the roads were more dangerous when it was raining, do you think they were not doing the speed checks?

Which day would have been least safe to stand ont he side of hte road where people speed?

Which day would have produced at best mediocre readings?

Berty

stevenmu wrote: »

I checked with my contact in the council and he confirmed that the 9's were in fact originally upside down 6's, so in fact they're actually just turning them the right way up again :pac:

BIG SIGH @ COUNCILs

Berty

Victor wrote: »

Which day would have been least safe to stand ont he side of hte road where people speed?

Which day would have produced at best mediocre readings?

There is a road going from Limerick to Thurles and the managed to widen ONE section of the entire road. The speed limit on the widest part is 60kph for 500mtrs and the rest of the crappy road is 80kph.

Where do they do their speed checks? The safest place with the lowest speed limit.

I have asked the councillors to investigate the "temporary speed limit" which is still in place but neither of them have bothered to reply.

Its the R503 in Co Limerick.

Berty

Here you go. Northbound M7 just after the onramp from the Newport Road Roundabout in Limerick.

Sorry about the fuzzy images. I was using the iPhone and I was parked under a bridge. The light refractions(if thats what you call it) made it hard to focus.

Overtaking Lane

Hard Shoulder


So folks which one of these actually says 60?

I suggest the on at the Overtaking lane side of the Carraigeway is a 6 because other signs on our roadnetwork like directional signs use the other number as a 9 for their distances.

bijapos

Berty wrote: »

So folks which one of these actually says 60?

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They both say 60 to the ordinary driver. (those of us who have passed the test anyway)

Berty

bijapos wrote: »

They both say 60 to the ordinary driver. (those of us who have passed the test anyway)

There is no need to be patronising.

O & 0 ? Spot the difference?

If not then keep trying.

If so, you notice because they are different.

emanresu

They are both 60 km/h.
They are different fonts, but still 60 km/h.
When speed limits were changed from mph to km/h in January 2005, the font was also changed.
Your photo of the overtaking lane is 60 km/h with the correct new font,
and your photo of the hard shoulder is also 60 km/h; the wrong font but still 60 km/h.

http://web.archive.org/web/20050114225357/www.gometric.ie/checksigns-lg.pdf
http://web.archive.org/web/20050204204059/http://gometric.ie/index.html

freighter

Poor Mrs berty is all i will say to this thread:D:D:P

rubensni

S.I. No. 10 of 2005 - Road Traffic (Speed Limit - Traffic Signs) Regulations 2005

muckwarrior

Berty wrote: »

O & 0 ? Spot the difference?

Well you didn't. The zeros on each sign are clearly also different indicating that it's a different font, not upside-down nines.

Del2005

I always though an up sidedown 9 was 6, or my teachers have where lying to me:mad:

galwaytt

Berty wrote: »

but the stickers they use are actually 9's upside down.

OMG.

But, stay with me - what speed limit sign has a 9 ('nine' btw..) in it ?

And if none, why are they making them ?

And then, after that, why turn them upside down ?

galwaytt

Berty wrote: »

There is no need to be patronising.

O & 0 ? Spot the difference?

If not then keep trying.

If so, you notice because they are different.

Yep, I just tried to phone O1 - xxxxx

Got me nowhere.

btkm8unsl0w5r4

Wow this thread had set a new benchmark in crazy.......

if you can tell easily what the sign says why in sweet baby jesus's name would you care about the font or the 6 looking like a upside down 9....even typing that made me want to cry......