Irish basic ED training to be formalised - ah ****e!

Vorsprung

Hi gang (and especially those of you in EM),

The powers that be have decided that Ireland needs a basic specialist scheme in Emergency Medicine, something which was done informally before, or semi-formally by a couple of hospitals (SVUH and SJH in Dublin spring to mind). This move sounds like it's long overdue, and will hopefully will improve the standard of Emergency training in Ireland.

So anyway I was reading about this new BSTEM the other day and realised that it could potentially throw a giant spanner in my works. The document I've read talks about recognition for Irish posts, but nothing about other posts. Now I realise that it's early days yet, but for personal reasons I'm here for another 2 years so if my 3 years here isn't going to count, I'm going to be less than happy. I came out to Oz after Intern year, knowing that I'd like to do ED but that's only become firm since I've arrived. Basically I was going to spend another couple of years here going ED/ICU/Paeds ED/Anaesthetics and basically make my own scheme, before coming home, maybe doing Ortho at home and maybe doing a year as a Reg before applying for the HST.

I've emailed someone on the ACEMT and a couple of ED contacts I have from home, but heard nothing as yet.

In short, I'm worried.

Apart from waiting for the relevant people to get back to me, does anyone have any other advice, or do people have any other information on this.

Cheers

PS Here's the document relating to the above:

http://www.emergencymedicine.ie/images/stories/training/training_in_em_in_ireland_3rd_ed_290310.pdf

Chiparus

Why do you not register with the Australian college? It will mean that the training ( called provisional) is official and allow you the option of completing training in Australia.



There are plenty of Irish guys training in Australia I know of two personally- it is considered the best in the world.


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Vorsprung

Chiparus wrote: »

Why do you not register with the Australian college? It will mean that the training ( called provisional) is official and allow you the option of completing training in Australia.

There are plenty of Irish guys training in Australia I know of two personally- it is considered the best in the world.


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Hi Chiparus,

I have registered with the ACEM and I'm planning to sit some of the MACEMs in September - I'm doing that to keep my options open. I might try to knock part 1 of the MCEMs off as well later this year. I've applied for a provisional training job starting next January - now it's obviously excellent experience and I'm not exactly "wasting my time" by doing it by any means, but I would like to make it to Reg/SpR level someday and not spend 5 years as an SHO (!) - hence my concern. The main reason for not staying around to finish the training is based primarily on ties to home/personal reasons.

Chiparus

Vorsprung wrote: »

Hi Chiparus,

I have registered with the ACEM and I'm planning to sit some of the MACEMs in September - I'm doing that to keep my options open. I might try to knock part 1 of the MCEMs off as well later this year. I've applied for a provisional training job starting next January - now it's obviously excellent experience and I'm not exactly "wasting my time" by doing it by any means, but I would like to make it to Reg/SpR level someday and not spend 5 years as an SHO (!) - hence my concern. The main reason for not staying around to finish the training is based primarily on ties to home/personal reasons.

I would try to get on advanced training in Australia- the exams are difficult but I know of a case where consideration was given to an Irish trainee who had done some years advanced training in Australia.

DrIndy

Get everything accredited with one college - ACEM and see what can be transferred. Having the primary ACEM exams gives exemption to part 1 of the MCEM. Registrars training and all else counts back in ireland too.

Remember the training is 4 years in oz - and guarranteed on after passing the exams unlike ireland where it is more tricky.

ALSO - I'll see you in september at the Primaries!

Vorsprung

Indy they've changes the rules as of last year - they won't exempt you from the part ones any more if you've done the primaries - that's why I'm looking at doing the MCEMs as well, to keep my options open.