Political cartoon from 1934

Dude111

Exile 1798

It's interesting how little things change isn't it?

In '33 Franklin D. Roosevelt came into power after 13 long years of Republican misrule which gave the world The Great Depression. He was viciously attacked by his opponents, perhaps as today wanting to project their own failures onto someone else.

Difference though is that FDR hit back, and hit back hard.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9yoZHs6PsU

Dude111

Exile 1798 wrote:

It's interesting how little things change isn't it?

Yes its quite disturbing is what it is really!

Exile 1798

Dude111 wrote: »

Yes its quite disturbing is what it is really!

Personally I find it comforting.

What's scary is the new, the unknown and the unheard off. If you can look to history and recognise the same patterns, occurrences and actors it makes the present seem less and less extraordinary, and more familiar and predictable.

Amerika

Here, let me finish that thought.

Difference though is that FDR hit back, and hit back hard with his policies that prolonged the Depression by seven years.

jank

Actually you are wrong again.!!

Unemployment decreased year on year after he took office.
In 1933 it was 20-25% depending what source you believe.
In 1945 it was 1.9%

Of course he was a failure. :rolleyes:

While Hoover was the Legend!! Taking office unemployment was under 5% and when he left office it was over 20%. He's the man!!

Amerika

jank wrote: »

Actually you are wrong again.!!

When was the first time? (;))

Unemployment decreased year on year after he took office.
In 1933 it was 20-25% depending what source you believe.
In 1945 it was 1.9%

Didn't a little thing called World War II cause that change in the 1945 figure?

Of course he was a failure. :rolleyes:

While Hoover was the Legend!! Taking office unemployment was under 5% and when he left office it was over 20%. He's the man!!

Here is one source of that information to back up my claim (UCLA is far from a right-wing higher learning institution)
http://www.businessandmedia.org/printer/2008/20081027150030.aspx

Exile 1798

jank wrote: »

Actually you are wrong again.!!

Unemployment decreased year on year after he took office.
In 1933 it was 20-25% depending what source you believe.
In 1945 it was 1.9%

Of course he was a failure. :rolleyes:

While Hoover was the Legend!! Taking office unemployment was under 5% and when he left office it was over 20%. He's the man!!

The standard apologist right wing claim is that FDR made the Depression what it was, and it was only WWII that lifted the country of Depression.

This offcourse ignores that fact that for the four pre-FDR years after the initial crash the economy continued to deteriorate. After FDR was elected, but before he took office the banking system shut down. Sound familiar? Thanks a lot Bush.. err I mean Hoover!

And off course what was WWII but a huge expansion of government expenditure and the creation of a war time command economy?

Pundits in America can get on TV or radio and make the most baseless claims and unfortunately their are gullible people like Amerika who will instantly believe them.

jank

Amerika wrote: »

Didn't a little thing called World War II cause that change in the 1945 figure?

Unemployment was lower in 1939 as well. An average reduction of 7% from the peak of 1933.

sceptre

View from the OP required as per the forum charter. I'll give it a few hours to give the OP (who's new) a chance to do this.

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Amerika

jank wrote: »

Unemployment was lower in 1939 as well. An average reduction of 7% from the peak of 1933.

Wasn't unemployment reduced by FDR creating an extensive amount of government type jobs (and I'm including the WPA as part of them).

Why does this all sound familar. In the words of the immortal Yogi Berra, "It's like déjà vu all over again."

Dude111

sceptre wrote:

View from the OP required as per the forum charter.

Im sorry buddy....

My View is i think its sad that nothing ever seems to change,we can see that from the image i posted above..

Denerick

Amerika wrote: »

Wasn't unemployment reduced by FDR creating an extensive amount of government type jobs (and I'm including the WPA as part of them).

Why does this all sound familar. In the words of the immortal Yogi Berra, "It's like déjà vu all over again."

Yes I know, good jobs they were too! Damned socialists! See what they done to America! After the New Deal, America was a socialist paradise, with free healthcare, education, and equality for everyone! Oh wait...