Wolves being re-introduced to an area in US

A Country Voice

Programme on tg4 right now, might be interesting.

A country voice

Johnny_Coyle

They allowed the wolves back into Yosemite, with no hunting pressure some time ago.

Guess what, the elk population and many others nose dived!

Kind of like when commie pinko's demanded all those cruel fur farms to free the mink...

... hey, where did all of the birds go?

rowa

some bright spark wanted to reintroduce them into scotland a few yearss ago , they reckoned it could help with the spiralling deer numbers !

Dusty87

rowa wrote: »

some bright spark wanted to reintroduce them into scotland a few yearss ago , they reckoned it could help with the spiralling deer numbers !

I have a magazine with a big write up about that here Rowa, il see if i can dig it up.

jwshooter

think of introducing a few werewolves into wicklow , there can feed on poachers .

sikastag

jwshooter wrote: »

think of introducing a few werewolves into wicklow , there can feed on poachers .

:D:D

sikastag

Intro of wolves back into yellowstone in 1995 allowed re-establishment of beaver which was nearly extinct. Due to wolves putting pressure on elk, elk had less time to browse on willow, allowing them to grow. Then mr. beaver was able to build his dams with the young willow shoots. Dams as opposed to fast flowing water provides a different habitat therefore more biodiversity.

EPointer=Birdss

In an Eco System such as Yellowstone that can sustain an apex predator such as a wolf, they have invaluable affects in maintaining a balance - such as outlined by Silkastag above.

Because we have capped their environment we are also responsible for keeping their numbers in check. I believe there are hunts in Yellowstone to keep numbers in check.

Re-Introduction projects however are only going to be feasible somewhere that the interaction between people & animal would be rare.

You can bet your bottom dollar (to coin a phrase) that the first attack on livestock or people would see the scrapping of these re-introduction projects or the illegal culling such as our Killarney eagles.

I for one, am all for such projects but also understand that the merrits of these projects would not be appreciated where interactions could lead to headlines.

I don't see this ever happening on the Scottish Moors not would I compare these animals to a feral species like mink... :rolleyes:

landkeeper

ah the rewilding issue theres lots to be read on the issue on the net i think the general concensus was that letting a pack of wolves loose on rannoch moor was abad idea
some things are better left in the past imho mind yu it might keep all the kagools off the tops of the mountains in the summer and give the deer there a chance :cool:

jwshooter

landkeeper wrote: »

ah the rewilding issue theres lots to be read on the issue on the net i think the general concensus was that letting a pack of wolves loose on rannoch moor was abad idea
some things are better left in the past imho mind yu it might keep all the kagools off the tops of the mountains in the summer and give the deer there a chance :cool:

i have shot deer on rannoch moor ,wet bloody place .

Birdnuts

Johnny_Coyle wrote: »

They allowed the wolves back into Yosemite, with no hunting pressure some time ago.

Guess what, the elk population and many others nose dived!

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Don't buy into the anti-wolf hysteria in the more red-neck parts of the American mid-west. Hard winters, disease,habitat destruction and over hunting are by far the biggest factors that affect deer numbers. Wolves generally go for weaker/ sick animals thereby keeping the overall population healthy

jwshooter

Birdnuts wrote: »

Don't buy into the anti-wolf hysteria in the more red-neck parts of the American mid-west. Hard winters, disease,habitat destruction and over hunting are by far the biggest factors that affect deer numbers. Wolves generally go for weaker/ sick animals thereby keeping the overall population healthy

it must be lovely your planet .

Birdnuts

jwshooter wrote: »

it must be lovely your planet .

Its a basic law of nature - the weak die, the strong survive. Wolves like every other predator such as lions, cheetahs etc. single out the slowest most vulnerable prey animal in the herd for obvious reasons. The only animal that bucks the trend is our own species that typically takes out the finest specimens which is one of the big problems with uncontrolled trophy hunting.:(

Fallow

Birdnuts wrote: »

Its a basic law of nature - the weak die, the strong survive. Wolves like every other predator such as lions, cheetahs etc. single out the slowest most vulnerable prey animal in the herd for obvious reasons. The only animal that bucks the trend is our own species that typically takes out the finest specimens which is one of the big problems with uncontrolled trophy hunting.:(

Totally agree Birdnuts.

jwshooter............shut up to feck, you frustrated ranger...:rolleyes:

I like wolfs a lot, any one that wants to wipe them out, needs the electric chair in my opinion, they are a great being, ancestor of all out dogs, from small to large..

Hibrion

There was a very good piece about the reintroduction of wolves in various parts of the US in National Geographic a couple of months ago. I think it was the April issue. Seems most of their strategies have worked and are proving beneficial overall.

Feargal as Luimneach

Johnny_Coyle wrote: »

They allowed the wolves back into Yosemite, with no hunting pressure some time ago.

Guess what, the elk population and many others nose dived!

Kind of like when commie pinko's demanded all those cruel fur farms to free the mink...

... hey, where did all of the birds go?

The Elk would have been at an abnormally high numbers due to apex predators not been present. The wolves readdressed the balance. Of course the Elk population would decrease.
Are wolves not native to the area? They should be introduced. Comparing the reintroduction of wolves to releasing mink ( in this country I assume) is foolish in all fairness. American mink are not native.