Working in Tallaght - where to live?

lfit

Hi,

I'm unfamiliar with Dublin so I'd really appreciate if someone could take the time to advise me.

I'm starting a job in Hibernian Estate off Greenhills Road in Tallaght in a few weeks. I'm not looking to live in Tallaght itself but I'd like an area that's fairly easily commutable either by car/luas (although I heard the red line doesn't go very close to the Ind estate where I'll be working).

Thanks for your time

AARRRGH

I'm currently renting in Citywest which is next to Tallaght. It's a fairly depressing place with a lot of social problems. I never feel unsafe but there are a very large amount of poor quality humans living in the area. The kids, in particular, are ****ed.

My advice to you would be to live somewhere like Terenure. It wouldn't take too long to commute to Tallaght from there.

Definitely don't move to Jobstown, Fortunestown or Killinarden. Unless you enjoy watching kids throw rocks at your car.

lfit

I really appreciate your advice, thanks. I was thinking of Terenure/Templeogue alright. Do you know anything about Walkinstown?

warrenaldo

Walkinstown/Greenhills are nice areas.

A lot of the residents are quite old in these areas.

Its a very good location too - quite near to Tallaght and close enough to town.

Idbatterim

how about Knocklyon? you could even consider somewhere along the m50 from the likes of Dundrum etc Id imagine you can get to tallaght exit in about 10 mins...

lfit

thanks everyone for feedback,

I'm not sure about being out on the M50 because I probably won't have my car up there for a while. Does anyone know if there is a luas connection between Terenure or Templogue and Tallaght?

D3PO

Luas goes nowhere near there but anyway.

Id suggest perhaps, Greenhills, Firhouse, Knocklyon, Templeogue or Terenue although Terenure might be a bit further away than you want to be.

Id say Firhouse or Knocklyon would probably be the best places to move to.

If your going to move to Firhouse Id try and avoid Hunterswood and maybe try the older more established estates.

edit assumed you had a car. If you dont have a car you should really check whats on the bus routes. No idea what areas have busses towards that industrial estate

D3PO

lfit wrote: »

thanks everyone for feedback,

I'm not sure about being out on the M50 because I probably won't have my car up there for a while. Does anyone know if there is a luas connection between Terenure or Templogue and Tallaght?

no luas in terenure or templeogue at all.

pikachucheeks

I live in Terenure and it's not far from Tallaght at all.
I can get to Tallaght village by bus in less than fifteen minutes. (There's four buses to tallaght from Terenure - 49, 49A, 65, 65B)

I like the area. I consider it to be safe, people are nice and it's handy for town and Tallaght so I'd recommend there.

Templelogue and Walkinstown are fine too

lfit

pikachucheeks wrote: »

I live in Terenure and it's not far from Tallaght at all.
I can get to Tallaght village by bus in less than fifteen minutes. (There's four buses to tallaght from Terenure - 49, 49A, 65, 65B)

I like the area. I consider it to be safe, people are nice and it's handy for town and Tallaght so I'd recommend there.

Templelogue and Walkinstown are fine too

Thanks guys that's all really helpful. Are the buses fairly reliable? A friend of mine who lives in Dublin said to forget buses to work because traffic is so bad but maybe he's exaggerating! Thanks again for feedback it really helps when you haven't a clue where you're going

D3PO

pikachucheeks wrote: »

I live in Terenure and it's not far from Tallaght at all.
I can get to Tallaght village by bus in less than fifteen minutes. (There's four buses to tallaght from Terenure - 49, 49A, 65, 65B)

I like the area. I consider it to be safe, people are nice and it's handy for town and Tallaght so I'd recommend there.

Templelogue and Walkinstown are fine too

I think your misleading the OP a bit here. 15 mins from Terenure to Tallaght Village by bus ? Maybe on a Sunday with no traffic about. There is no way in the world you can make it in 15 mins in rush hour having used these bus services before. 30 mins is a more reasonable timeline.

Besides which the OP would then have to get a second bus from tallaght village to the industrial estate assuming there is a connecting bus from there.

tara73

buses are ok in dublin. you can never say they come at an exact time but they come in the frequency which is written on the time table.
your friend probably experienced the celtic tiger times, buses were so packed at rush hours, they drove past stops. but it's not like this anymore and as you won't live in the city center you won't have problems, even at rush hours.

lfit

Walkinstown seems a lot closer but think I'd have to go through the walkinstown roundabout, is it as bad as people say?

warrenaldo

If you base yourself in Walkinstown/Greenhills, you could walk/cycle to work. It would be 5 or 10 minute cycle.

It is a horrible roundabout, but I would not let that put me off an area.

What about Kilnamanagh - Its not a bad area, very close.

knighted_1

AARRRGH wrote: »

I'm currently renting in Citywest which is next to Tallaght. It's a fairly depressing place with a lot of social problems. I never feel unsafe but there are a very large amount of poor quality humans living in the area. The kids, in particular, are ****ed.

Definitely don't move to Jobstown, Fortunestown or Killinarden. Unless you enjoy watching kids throw rocks at your car.

you have a choice to live in city west with the 'poor quality humans' -move -

do you have first hand knowledge of children throwing stones in these estates or are you exaggerating ?
did the stone throwing happen in the 3 different locations on the same nite or did you visit each estate on different nites ,im curious

if you are making it up can you remove the comment ,its not helpful for you to write fictional short stories

D3PO

knighted_1 wrote: »

you have a choice to live in city west with the 'poor quality humans' -move -

do you have first hand knowledge of children throwing stones in these estates or are you exaggerating ?
did the stone throwing happen in the 3 different locations on the same nite or did you visit each estate on different nites ,im curious

if you are making it up can you remove the comment ,its not helpful for you to write fictional short stories

well you mustn't read the newspapers then do you ? Well documented with Dublin buss curtailing and stopping services to said areas on multiple occasions due to rock throwing by kids at night in these areas. So I think you owe the last poster an appology for your somewhat smart alec post.

NothingMan

If you'll be working off the greenhills road then any apartments in Tallaght village, priorsgate is one. You can walk or jump on the 77 or 50 down the greenhills road.

For houses then Kilnamanagh leads onto the greenhills road and is a nice enough housing estate.

I live up by the square, lots of studio and 1 bed apartments. The Luas is great for city centre but the 77 and 50 also go by regularly for the greenhills road.

pikachucheeks

lfit wrote: »

Thanks guys that's all really helpful. Are the buses fairly reliable? A friend of mine who lives in Dublin said to forget buses to work because traffic is so bad but maybe he's exaggerating!

Buses tend to be pretty good from Terenure / Templelogue as there are so many services and various routes.

Traffic can be bad heading in to town and coming out during peak times.
Tallaght can be quite congested during rush hours as well, but that's because it's a huge area and a lot of people commute to and from there.

The good thing about using the bus is that there are often bus lanes, meaning you don't have to sit through traffic jams.

D3PO wrote: »

I think your misleading the OP a bit here. 15 mins from Terenure to Tallaght Village by bus ? Maybe on a Sunday with no traffic about.

I've got the 65 or 65B from Terenure as far as Tallaght village every morning* for the past nine months to college and it's never taken more than 20 minutes. There are bus lanes most of the way up the dual carriageway which means there's hardly any sitting in traffic.

*between 8:30 and 9

D3PO wrote: »

the OP would then have to get a second bus from tallaght village to the industrial estate assuming there is a connecting bus from there.

The 77 and 77A go from a stop in Tallaght village. The 65 and 65B both go as far as The Square shopping centre, which has more bus routes available at it.

AARRRGH

knighted_1 wrote: »

you have a choice to live in city west with the 'poor quality humans' -move -

do you have first hand knowledge of children throwing stones in these estates or are you exaggerating ?
did the stone throwing happen in the 3 different locations on the same nite or did you visit each estate on different nites ,im curious

if you are making it up can you remove the comment ,its not helpful for you to write fictional short stories

Citywest suits me for the moment. I wouldn't live here long term though.

Yes, I have first hand knowledge of kids throwing rocks at cars. I've seen it twice (one of them smashed the front window of a taxi) and been the victim of it once. Twice it was in Jobstown, once it was in Killinarden. This is during a 4 month period, and I've only been in Jobstown and Killinarden a handful of times.

You should also check out the Lidl in Fortunestown. The kids try to smash the windows there every day. They even put up these mad mechanical shutters to stop them, but now the kids are breaking the shutters.

Obviously I am sure there are plenty of decent people on these areas, but there's also a lot of complete scum.

Denalihighway

OP, I think the best solution if possible is to come up at a weekend if possible and have a scout with a friend who has a car.

Traffic shouldn't be a big problem since it sounds like you'll end up in Templeogue/Terenure/Knocklyon/Firhouse/Walkinstown which are all good areas and you'll be against the Dublin city centre inbound traffic. (I grew up in Knocklyon, lived in Firhouse and now Terenure)

It's fair to say the areas immediately surrounding the Square etc are very mixed and if I had a choice I'd go somewher more picturesque and mature (could I be more diplomatic?)

Any specific questions just shout...

ntlbell

some nice areas in Tallaght.

Old Bawn.

Firhouse.

Bancroft.

Glenview.

Belgard is mostly grand and on the luas line.

Just outside of Tallaght

Ballycullen,basically anywhere near in or around knocklyon, orwell etc

Zamboni

Rathfarnham and Ballinteer are both nice areas and are also feasible using the 75 bus route to the Square.

Danbo!

D3PO wrote: »

If your going to move to Firhouse Id try and avoid Hunterswood and maybe try the older more established estates.

I was going to suggest Hunterswood as there seems to be a few apartments for rent and its very handy for tallaght, either via old bawn or the M50. Any particular reason for avoiding it?

D3PO

ntlbell wrote: »

some nice areas in Tallaght.

Old Bawn.

Firhouse.

Bancroft.

Glenview.

Belgard is mostly grand and on the luas line.

good list only problem is Firhouse isnt in Tallaght In terms of Tallaght Kilnamanagh probably should be on that list aswell

D3PO

Stee wrote: »

I was going to suggest Hunterswood as there seems to be a few apartments for rent and its very handy for tallaght, either via old bawn or the M50. Any particular reason for avoiding it?

well theres nothing wrong with it, apart from the fact its a new build (assume therfore the walls are like paper although cant back this up), the houses / apartments are ontop of each other, it seems to lack car parking spaces and its only got 1 bus route.

Apart from that its fine

D3PO

Zamboni wrote: »

Rathfarnham and Ballinteer are both nice areas and are also feasible using the 75 bus route to the Square.

Except that the 75 is about as regular as a solar eclipse

spockety

Zamboni wrote: »

Rathfarnham and Ballinteer are both nice areas and are also feasible using the 75 bus route to the Square.

Anyone working on the Greenhills road, living in Ballinteer, and using the 75 bus as their commute is in for a life of utter utter hell.

lfit

Thanks everyone for being so helpful, it's really great

Denalihighway

D3PO wrote: »

well theres nothing wrong with it, apart from the fact its a new build (assume therfore the walls are like paper although cant back this up), the houses / apartments are ontop of each other, it seems to lack car parking spaces and its only got 1 bus route.

Apart from that its fine

this is prob worth taking on board to be honest - if you're concerned about the noise element maybe check out when the developments were built. There's a lot of new stuff up that way.

Even in Woodstown, which is mature enough (where I lived for a year), the house-build quality is a f*cking disgrace as far as noise etc is concerned. You've just made me angry thinking about

You can hear everything everyone is up to...and I mean everything

Denalihighway

spockety wrote: »

Anyone working on the Greenhills road, living in Ballinteer, and using the 75 bus as their commute is in for a life of utter utter hell.

+1 !

family home was in Knocklyon which is serviced by the 75 among others...most people didnt bother looking at the timetable...

spockety

I would recommend Old Bawn or Bancroft. The 77A bus will go right by your industrial estate, and also by the edge of both of those estates.

In fact if you lived in Bancroft you could easily walk to work in about 10 mins. I'd say it's about a 15-20 min walk from Old Bawn. Cycle time from either is only about 5 mins.

You didn't state if you are looking to buy or rent?

warrenaldo

D3PO wrote: »

good list only problem is Firhouse isnt in Tallaght In terms of Tallaght Kilnamanagh probably should be on that list aswell

Firhouse is in Tallaght! Its Dublin 24

Danbo!

spockety wrote: »

I would recommend Old Bawn or Bancroft. The 77A bus will go right by your industrial estate, and also by the edge of both of those estates.

In fact if you lived in Bancroft you could easily walk to work in about 10 mins. I'd say it's about a 15-20 min walk from Old Bawn. Cycle time from either is only about 5 mins.

You didn't state if you are looking to buy or rent?

If its renting there are plenty of apartments in and around bancroft which are quite nice. Plenty of amenities nearby, shopping, doctors, dentists, restaurants, etc, plenty of buses, and at the top of the Greenhills road.

spockety

Stee wrote: »

If its renting there are plenty of apartments in and around bancroft which are quite nice. Plenty of amenities nearby, shopping, doctors, dentists, restaurants, etc, plenty of buses, and at the top of the Greenhills road.

May be true alright, I'm afraid I'm old tallaght and still can't quite get my head around the apartments beside the square, never mind the ones where H.Williams and the old tyre yard used to stand!

D3PO

warrenaldo wrote: »

Firhouse is in Tallaght! Its Dublin 24

Facepalm thats the same as saying Blanchardstown is in Castleknock because there both Dublin 15 :rolleyes:

the concept might be alien to you but 1 postcode doesnt mean 1 area

ntlbell

D3PO wrote: »

good list only problem is Firhouse isnt in Tallaght In terms of Tallaght Kilnamanagh probably should be on that list aswell

Well, it used to be

Is it not still D 24?

Diageio_Man

i'm from Tallaght myself(kingswood hts), i'd go for some were around kingswood hts, kilnamanagh,belgard hts, bancroft, or around tallaght village or greenhills.

There all very nice areas and within walking/cycling distance from the greenhills road.
You also have the plus point if you live in kingswood,kilnamanagh,belgard hts of being on the luas line which will bring you into town or up to the square very realiably. plus your very close to dunnes stores in killnamanagh s.c for shopping and theres a post office there aswell.
I wouldent bother with tempaleouge/terenure there further away and it will mean more hassel to get to your work place.

D3PO

Diageio_Man wrote: »

i'm from Tallaght myself(kingswood hts), i'd go for some were around kingswood hts, kilnamanagh,belgard hts, bancroft, or around tallaght village or greenhills.

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kingswood good call. Was trying to think of the name of that place but I couldnt for the life of me.

Zamboni

spockety wrote: »

Anyone working on the Greenhills road, living in Ballinteer, and using the 75 bus as their commute is in for a life of utter utter hell.

I'll take your word for it.
I've only been on the bus once and that was just trying to get to the pub :pac:

knighted_1

AARRRGH wrote: »

You should also check out the Lidl in Fortunestown. The kids try to smash the windows there every day. They even put up these mad mechanical shutters to stop them, but now the kids are breaking the shutters.

Obviously I am sure there are plenty of decent people on these areas, but there's also a lot of complete scum.

here you go again -- mad machanical shutters ?

they have been installed in numerous lidl,s and heres why - the windows are more or less south facing and the sun is shining too strong thru the windows directly on to the tills and blinding staff and customers --they can be adjusted acording to the position of the sun and can be closed at nite if need be - shops inside the square have shutters also ,no biggie

D3PO

knighted_1 wrote: »

here you go again -- mad machanical shutters ?

he he goes again what ?

by the way I have yet to see you appolgise to him for insuating he was making up the stone throwing incidents.

If your going to call somebody out and say there making things up be man up when your proven wrong.

knighted_1

D3PO wrote: »

he he goes again what ?

by the way I have yet to see you appolgise to him for insuating he was making up the stone throwing incidents.

If your going to call somebody out and say there making things up be man up when your proven wrong.

not that i have to justify myself to you ,but in fairness its none of your business ,i asked him to rectify his statement,which i dont believe still .then he makes a wild assumption on why lidl have motorised shutters ,(aldi have them also on south facing stores )

i think you will agree my explanation of the shutters is the correct one

now also the op was asking for suggestions on where to live ,this poster comes on and rants about an area making little of the people who live there ,i dont think the op asked for that .

if i need a bodygaurd on any other thread i will see if your free
thanks for your concern

AARRRGH

knighted_1 wrote: »

here you go again -- mad machanical shutters ?

they have been installed in numerous lidl,s and heres why - the windows are more or less south facing and the sun is shining too strong thru the windows directly on to the tills and blinding staff and customers --they can be adjusted acording to the position of the sun and can be closed at nite if need be - shops inside the square have shutters also ,no biggie

Even if what you say is true (the shutters are because of the sun, and let's forget for a moment how much easier it would be to use normal blinds inside the shop), you have completely ignored that fact that the windows are constantly being smashed, and the shutters are being vandalised.

If you don't believe me, I invite you to go to the Fortunestown Lidl any night of the week to witness some smashed and cracked windows.

I have nothing to gain by making this crap up. The place is full of scumbag kids and teenagers.

knighted_1

AARRRGH wrote: »

I have nothing to gain by making this crap up. The place is full of scumbag kids and teenagers.

why do you feel you have to share that fact on this thread ? the op asked for suggesrions on where to live NOT where not to live

grow up and stop posting stuff thats negative to the area cant be proven on my part of yours -

if you want to rant there is a separate forum for that

AARRRGH

knighted_1 wrote: »

why do you feel you have to share that fact on this thread ? the op asked for suggesrions on where to live NOT where not to live

grow up and stop posting stuff thats negative to the area cant be proven on my part of yours -

if you want to rant there is a separate forum for that

Ah come on, is this a wind up?

Advising the OP where to avoid is definitely on topic if she is asking for advice on where to live.

Everything I have said can be proven. Just go to the Lidl and take a look, or drive around Jobstown, Fortunestown or Killinarden at night. Or ask any taxi driver - nearly all taxi drivers refuse to go through Killinarden.

Not sure how I'm being immature or why I need to grow up. I rent in the area and I am telling it as I see it.

otwb

D3PO wrote: »

well you mustn't read the newspapers then do you ? Well documented with Dublin buss curtailing and stopping services to said areas on multiple occasions due to rock throwing by kids at night in these areas. So I think you owe the last poster an appology for your somewhat smart alec post.

Er...not sure that buses to citywest were stopped - just into some estates on the way out here. Please don't lump all estates into the same group - things are fine out here. And yes - I do live here and No - am not an undesirable neighbour!

AARRRGH

otwb wrote: »

Er...not sure that buses to citywest were stopped - just into some estates on the way out here. Please don't lump all estates into the same group - things are fine out here. And yes - I do live here and No - am not an undesirable neighbour!

He wasn't talking about Citywest - he was talking about Killinarden I believe.

knighted_1

AARRRGH wrote: »

I agree with you that there is a reason for everything (e.g. if he was brought up differently in a different home he probably wouldn't be in prison now), but the fact of the matter is he is scum and really I think prison is too good for him. If I was some sort of ruler of Ireland I would televise his long and painful torture to send a message out to the hundreds of thousands remaining complete scumbags we have in this country. .

is this lad that you were talking about living near you ? or the hundreds of thousands of complete scumbags in this country ? what area do they come from ?

you have a problem with disadvantaged people ,you are a
bigoted person who generalises people .

AARRRGH

knighted_1 wrote: »

is this lad that you were talking about living near you ? or the hundreds of thousands of complete scumbags in this country ? what area do they come from ?

you have a problem with disadvantaged people ,you are a
bigoted person who generalises people .

WTF...?!

That quote which you have taken amazingly out of context was about the scumbag who stabbed two Polish men in the head and killed them.

Seriously now, if you're not capable of thinking in a clear manner you probably shouldn't be participating in this discussion.

Well done for being some sort of Jesus person who thinks lads who throw rocks at cars are great.