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Why does my Eircom Netopia router outperform my (rebooting) Cisco 1800 series router?

  • 18-05-2010 3:52pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 431 ✭✭


    Strange one this, which hopefully someone can figure out for me :)

    I had some Eircom home broadband package with a Netopia router at home which has worked just fine for a long time. If I have a lot of torrents running, internet access goes slow, as expected. Turn them off, and everything is fine. Again, as expected. The router in particular has a 4-port 10/100 switch built-in. I have 2 PCs and an XBox360 connected to the switch.


    I inherited a Cisco 1800, which has an ADSLoPOTS RJ11 connection on the back of it, in addition to an 8-port 10/100 switch. I figured that the Cisco 1800 (perhaps naively?) must be a much higher performing router than the Netopia.

    I tried to get the Cisco to connect over ADSL directly, but I couldn't get it to connect. (If anyone has a sample config for this, please let me know :)). So I am now using the Netopia as a bridge, and the Cisco as an IP router. The Cisco's config is below.


    Strange thing is, the Netopia seems to outperform the Cisco (but perhaps I have some silly/glaring bad&obvious errors in my config). If there are active torrents, and I am watching a video on the XBox (streaming over the network from one of the PCs via MCE), the Cisco router will reboot about every half hour. If I turn off the torrents, I can continue watching the video. The router doesn't seem to get hot, or at least the exterior casing isn't getting hot, the room itself is quite cool, and its fans are operating by the sound of it.
    Internet access doesn't seem as slick or to work as well as it did when everything was just connected to the Netopia.

    Does anyone have any suggestions on why the router might be rebooting? I was thinking perhaps the large number of TCP connections that are created using torrents was causing the router to max out on CPU or RAM, so I added (what I think?) are relatively small NAT translation timeouts. Anyway, any suggestions are welcome.
    Ultimately I figured if I have a Cisco1800 sitting in my closest, I may aswell use the thing...

    Cisco1800 config (passwords etc. removed);
    (IP address of Netopia is 10.0.1.254)
    cisco1800#show running-config
    Building configuration...
    
    Current configuration : 5635 bytes
    !
    version 12.4
    service timestamps debug datetime msec
    service timestamps log datetime msec
    service password-encryption
    !
    hostname cisco1800
    !
    boot-start-marker
    boot-end-marker
    !
    logging buffered 51200 warnings
    !
    no aaa new-model
    clock timezone PCTime 0
    clock summer-time PCTime date Mar 30 2003 1:00 Oct 26 2003 2:00
    !
    ip cef
    no ip dhcp use vrf connected
    ip dhcp excluded-address 10.0.0.1 10.0.5.0
    !
    ip dhcp pool sdm-pool1
       import all
       network 10.0.0.0 255.255.0.0
       dns-server 159.134.237.6 159.134.248.17
       default-router 10.0.1.254
    !
    !
    ip name-server 159.134.237.6
    ip name-server 159.134.248.17
    !
    multilink bundle-name authenticated
    !
    !
    !
    archive
     log config
      hidekeys
    !
    !
    !
    !
    !
    interface FastEthernet0
     description $ETH-WAN$
     no ip address
     ip virtual-reassembly
     duplex auto
     speed auto
     pppoe enable group global
     pppoe-client dial-pool-number 1
    !
    interface BRI0
     no ip address
     encapsulation hdlc
     shutdown
    !
    interface FastEthernet1
    !
    interface FastEthernet2
    !
    interface FastEthernet3
    !
    interface FastEthernet4
    !
    interface FastEthernet5
    !
    interface FastEthernet6
    !
    interface FastEthernet7
    !
    interface FastEthernet8
    !
    interface ATM0
     no ip address
     no atm ilmi-keepalive
     dsl operating-mode auto
    !
    interface Vlan1
     description $ES_LAN$
     ip address 10.0.1.254 255.255.0.0
     ip nat inside
     ip virtual-reassembly
     ip tcp adjust-mss 1412
    !
    interface Dialer4
     ip address negotiated
     ip mtu 1452
     ip nat outside
     ip virtual-reassembly
     encapsulation ppp
     dialer pool 1
     dialer-group 1
     no cdp enable
     ppp authentication chap pap callin
     ppp chap hostname eircom@eircom.net
     ppp chap password 7 104C1B160413100A02007B
     ppp pap sent-username eircom@eircom.net password 7 070D33434F0D1B0419165A
    !
    ip forward-protocol nd
    ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 Dialer4
    !
    !
    ip http server
    ip http access-class 23
    ip http authentication local
    no ip http secure-server
    ip http timeout-policy idle 60 life 86400 requests 10000
    ip nat translation timeout 60
    ip nat translation tcp-timeout 1500
    ip nat translation udp-timeout 1500
    ip nat translation max-entries 6500
    ip nat inside source list 1 interface Dialer4 overload
    !
    access-list 1 remark INSIDE_IF=Vlan1
    access-list 1 remark SDM_ACL Category=2
    access-list 1 permit 10.0.0.0 0.0.255.255
    dialer-list 1 protocol ip permit
    no cdp run
    !
    !
    end
    
    cisco1800#
    


    Additional Info:
    The Cisco router was working fine before I inherited it. A project ended and it was no longer needed, so I gave it a new home
    It's Eircom Broadband Home Advanced that I have.


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 431 ✭✭plenderj


    The reassuring thing is that with so many views of this thread, nobody has pointed out anything really obviously wrong in the config :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,713 ✭✭✭✭jor el


    If your Netopia is working fine, then why replace it with something that doesn't work?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 431 ✭✭plenderj


    Did you post that reply from a C64?

    Just because the original router seems to work, if I have a considerably more expensive (and what should be higher performing) router to hand why not use it instead?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,713 ✭✭✭✭jor el


    plenderj wrote: »
    Did you post that reply from a C64?

    No. That's my home PC.
    plenderj wrote: »
    why not use it instead?

    Eh, because it doesn't work? If the Netopia does what you want/need, then surly there's no need to change it.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,375 CMod ✭✭✭✭Nody


    It has been a while since I was configuring Cisco routers (or owned any) but the only thing coming to my mind would be to create it as two/three virtual lans (basically putting your Torrent PC(s) seperatly) and see if that helps.

    Also keep in mind most routers and NICs can't handle that many open connections at the same time so reducing the number of parallel torrents and channels can also give noticable speed boosts to a torrent (i.e. running 50k channels is usually not as productive as running 5k or even 500).

    As for the reason for the reboot - no clue!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 431 ✭✭plenderj


    jor el wrote: »
    Eh, because it doesn't work?

    How do you know?


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