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PGDE Question

  • 17-05-2010 9:15pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,781 ✭✭✭


    I can't seem to find any information at all about this...

    Do you get paid for the teaching hours you do as part of the PGDE course?

    Thanks


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,147 ✭✭✭Rosita


    nothing wrote: »

    Do you get paid for the teaching hours you do as part of the PGDE course?



    No.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 122 ✭✭Síle28


    hahaha :D you wish!! It's a year of very hard work for free as it's part of your training. however if you do any classes above the number required per week for your Dip or any substituting you should be paid for these.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,781 ✭✭✭nothing


    Thanks to both of you :) I was actually asking for a friend, he just wanted to know one way or the other, since one person told him he would be and another said he wouldn't.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 62 ✭✭Blushingblue


    Síle28 wrote: »
    however if you do any classes above the number required per week for your Dip or any substituting you should be paid for these

    I'm required to only do 6 but have got 8 classes. While I will have a teacher with me (who is obviously paid to be there) , so I assumed these 2 classes would be just extra experience?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,147 ✭✭✭Rosita


    Síle28 wrote: »
    hahaha :D you wish!! It's a year of very hard work for free as it's part of your training. however if you do any classes above the number required per week for your Dip or any substituting you should be paid for these.


    I gave the rather abrupt 'no' answer to avoid the sort of confusion that I think this post creates. (Not saying it's inaccurate, just that it has the potential to confuse someone not au fait with the Dip)

    In UCD, where I did the Dip, (I'm sure other colleges are similar) you have to do a minimum of 4hrs 30min up to a maximum of 8hrs. The school might give you more classes on your timetable than the minimum as part of your Dip experience and these are also just that - part of your experience - and not paid classes. This obviously depends on the school's requirements. It was clear to me during the Dip that at least one school was depending massively on Dip students year on year so in such a school a Dip student could be expected to have a wider timetable.

    Potentially paid classes is a matter - which may or may not arise -between a teacher and the school and by definition is not on a Dip timetable.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,420 ✭✭✭Dionysus


    Are any of you PGDE people asking your school to pay you for teaching your PGDE subjects during the month of May, now that our PGDE is finished?

    It makes sense that we get paid for it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,420 ✭✭✭Dionysus


    Rosita wrote: »
    The school might give you more classes on your timetable than the minimum as part of your Dip experience and these are also just that - part of your experience - and not paid classes. This obviously depends on the school's requirements. It was clear to me during the Dip that at least one school was depending massively on Dip students year on year so in such a school a Dip student could be expected to have a wider timetable.

    Potentially paid classes is a matter - which may or may not arise -between a teacher and the school and by definition is not on a Dip timetable.

    Rosita,

    Just for the record I got €2500 paid into my account this week - actually, just over €1100 after tax and PRSI was deducted (I'll get the PAYE tax back) - as a result of teaching extra classes during the year. In particular, the school paid me for teaching CSPE (which is not one of my PGDE subjects) for the entire year, and at the rate of @€;43/49 per hour. Are you sure you're not entitled to ask for it? It might be worth talking to somebody in your school about your rights.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,147 ✭✭✭Rosita


    Dionysus wrote: »
    Rosita,

    Just for the record I got €2500 paid into my account this week - actually, just over €1100 after tax and PRSI was deducted (I'll get the PAYE tax back) - as a result of teaching extra classes during the year. In particular, the school paid me for teaching CSPE (which is not one of my PGDE subjects) for the entire year, and at the rate of @€;43/49 per hour. Are you sure you're not entitled to ask for it? It might be worth talking to somebody in your school about your rights.


    Dionysus,

    Actually this doesn't apply to me at all. I had the minimum required - well, 4h 40mins as it turned out in my school - for the Teaching Practice.

    I did get paid for extra (non PGDE related) classes that I did all right.

    You raise an interesting question about the month of May though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,420 ✭✭✭Dionysus


    Rosita wrote: »
    Dionysus,

    Actually this doesn't apply to me at all. I had the minimum required - well, 4h 40mins as it turned out in my school - for the Teaching Practice.

    I did get paid for extra (non PGDE related) classes that I did all right.

    You raise an interesting question about the month of May though.

    Yeah, I got shag all of those extra hours during the year so getting paid for the extra subject which I took was nice, and very surprising. I was never aware of the different rates of pay until last week and, most surprisingly, the eight hours study period which I offered to supervise over Easter resulted in my being paid €45 per hour. Nice surprise!

    As for getting paid for May, I could have stuck my neck out a bit too much with this. I inquired about it to a very well-established teacher and he made the inquiries for me. He was told by the school manager in question that he had been aware of no 'precedent' for it in our school. The teacher, however, thinks it would be only fair that PGDE students get paid for this month and is bringing it to a higher authority. I'll let you know how it pans out.


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