Foreign armies

ScumLord

How do you think these will affect Ireland during a global Zombie apocalypse? It's very likely large warships could be left with no country to go to, places like Switzerland that will more than likely be able to protect most their population may look for an island away from the infested mainland.

Is there any way for us to defend against well organised professional armies after the collapse? I think they're the real danger, I don't think our own population will turn into a cannibalistic raiders that we see so common place in American apocalyptic fiction.

helimachoptor

As an Island we have a trump card, as seen in 28 Weeks Later, the chunnel will be Britains undoing unless they decide to collapse it. we'll need to be realistic about it, we are a small country, if a couple of US battle groups come steaming across the Atlantic and we resist they'll pound us into dust, best to let them in and then fortify against other potential aggressors with their help.

DakotaYoda

Yep - Island nations will be a place of power come Z Day, especially if you look at what happens in WWZ. Cuba ends up being a world power. Ireland is nearly untouched - yes it's fiction but the reasoning is pretty sound.

Ireland being an island, combined with it's hundreds, if not thousands, of well defensible old castles, keeps, etc makes it a great place to be.

As for how to hold a US battle group off if they decide to attack... well if that is happening then there are probably bigger things to worry about.

C_Dawg

The Swiss population is in a much better position to defend themselves: most of them are are conscripts and key their assault rifle plus ammo at home *boner*

I'd welcome the Swiss if they had a few extra rifles to spare.

helimachoptor

As would I but they'd need to get from central europe through Germany/France/Low countries and then onto Ireland without getting infected, tough mission!

C_Dawg

We could help our Swiss allies with a Dunkirk style evacuation from Europe

Micky Dolenz

Much more likely that the British would invade us from the North and "protect" us.

Zeds or the British? :P

ScumLord

I'm not sure you'd get an official British invasion, they'd be to busy with domestic problems probably. What I'd be afraid of is a battleship comes back maybe months after the fact, see's Britain in ruins and decides to set up shop in Ireland. We'd have to assume most Irish forces would be lost in the initial panic due to being on the front lines, I'd expect the same to be true in most nations.

This could escalate if a British ship start fighting over the land with US ships which would be just as much of a problem, I'd expect many US ships will have plastic paddies on board that would only love to go to Ireland.

Galvasean

If the US army came a knocking we'd do well to let them in before they blow us to smitherines! Our best bet would be to try pool resources with them.

ScumLord

Galvasean wrote: »

If the US army came a knocking we'd do well to let them in before they blow us to smitherines! Our best bet would be to try pool resources with them.

I'd be fairly confident Ireland would end up like Iraq pretty quick. I don't think we'd fight back much or anything but the US military would install a military state and would want to control everything. I'd be even more worried that the Americans would be a Christian puritan army to boot.

The UK being one of the big travel hubs of the world with lots of different cultures coming and going could fall fairly quick leaving allot of their navy with no command structure, same could go for allot of mainland Europe. I wonder would the rouge EU navy's fall under Irish rule seeing as we may be the only EU country to survive the breakout?

Seloth

Well Britain would fall as pointed it being a large world travel hub.

I could see some minor outbreaks in Dublin as of this,and some in the North but could easil be contained as those infected would be noticed from there flight already.

British Gov and Monarchy would relocate to the North and the EU to Dublin.Access would be tightly controlled and a joint EU Naval task foce would be put in place around the country.

The Irish gov might either become pretty storng in this situation or the EU would take direct charge with the Dail only working for veyr domestic stuff.

The UN may also very well relocate here if we became the centre for Europe and with the US probably left in ruin.Many Americans would go to outlying islands around them,so Ireland would be pretty safe.

If you take example of the emergency where they had patrols of people every few miles along the coast,I belive somthing similar may happen to prevent immigrants that dont go through the proper chanels to go in as of infection and such.

sean corcoran

Micky Dolenz wrote: »

Much more likely that the British would invade us from the North and "protect" us.

Zeds or the British? :P

would rather see the zeds take over

Cianos

I think Ireland would be a great base of operations for any super power looking to clean up Europe. Even if there was 100% infection, it'd be easy to control and eradicate the infected on a self contained 400km x 400km island with an organised and equipped military.

If there was a community of survivors, my guess is that it'd be one without government. Even if there was only a comparably small drop in population I don't think our power system could withhold the shock of an outbreak. Given how disorganised the government is already in terms of, for example, health care facilities, I can't imagine the handling of an outbreak sustaining peoples faith in government at all. In saying that I don't think it'd be all out chaos either, far from it actually. We're a small population, with low degrees of separation. I think society would organize itself in to small pockets of local communities.

So if a foreign military come in, I think we'd be happy to let them do what they want for the sake of having a structure again.

NOGMaxpower

Personally I think one of the great successes in Ireland is our neutral status in international community.

I for one would like to welcome the worlds nations affected by Z day setup their remote base of operations in Ireland. We have the infrastructure and geographical location to aid and assist the US and the EU and even the Northern Regions (Iceland etc). One condition of us lending our land/survivors to those countries would be their protection. But not only that they would be responsible for arming us, training us, giving us vehicles and medical supplies. 20% of their capabilities should be transferred to our nations forces while they are onsite.

Inevitably we would become a super power within the EU, nations need us, they need a base of operations safe from Hordes of Zs. Plus we would use any military assistance to reinforce our borders/coast line and retake regions that were previously infected.

Logically thats how i'd see it pan out. To side with one nation would spell sure death for our wee Island. But to remain neutral in any apocolypse is always the best way to go.

Cianos

It's likely that Z day would eventually result in serious global conflict, with nations weakened and desperate, there'd be a race for global domination. In this kind of climate I don't think we'd be in any position to make demands to the new super powers. All we can hope for is that should they use us as a base of operations we are not exploited or repressed by their presence.

gavitron22

don't see the ireland thing happening as your invisage! while the island of ireland may become a very important place, the people will not, and having some sort of power transfered to ireland when people are here? again, don't see it happening! i more see mad and nationalistic people seeing our quite small population as a quite small problem to be overcome before they have control of a very viable area of land!

Mahatma coat

I Dunno, if they come as protectors then they will be welcomed, if they come in agression they'd want to be doing it in the first few days, given the time to prepare Our shores could be all but impenetrable to these ships, remember that there is still a few rather competent Geurilla organisations just bullin to crack the seals on some of their weapons dumps;)

SmileyPaul

Ireland are gonna p0wn when it comes to WWZ like said before, cuba came out unscathed and as a world super power, while I dont think the same will be said about us because of our.... lets just say lackluster government we will be able to fend for ourselves, I also believe we have a stronger nature than most races, while we are a close knit community I think that if push comes to many of us could pop a round in a loved one, or crush the skull of a best friend, we would be dreadfully upset but never really speak of it

in the words of philedelphia here I come "damn strong silent men" XD

and the defence forces... yeah most will perish... but its ok! they have me! :P I nick some ammo and a couple of bayonets and we'll be sorted!