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Learner Driver Plate vs Permit Plate

  • 17-05-2010 9:03am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,158 ✭✭✭✭


    Our Learner drivers(Permit Drivers) still drive around with L Plates.

    Why are we still allowing the system to accomodate an L Plate considering there is no such thing, legally, as a Learner Driver.

    Should it not be a Permit Driver Plate?

    P_Plates.jpg


Comments

  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,255 ✭✭✭Yawns


    Is it not a learning permit that they require? Therefore an L plate would do.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,733 ✭✭✭✭corktina


    theres plenty still around here on L plates (unaccompanied), a printer would make a fortune if they were all swapped for P plates!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,158 ✭✭✭✭Berty


    corktina wrote: »
    a printer would make a fortune if they were all swapped for P plates!

    They are not going to become a millionare overnight anyway. I used to sell twin packs of L plates a few years back for .50c per pack(cost price).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,106 ✭✭✭✭TestTransmission


    corktina wrote: »
    theres plenty still around here on L plates (unaccompanied), a printer would make a fortune if they were all swapped for P plates!

    The P plates are sold in Tesco for some reason


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,044 ✭✭✭Wossack


    used to be called provisional license, now called a learner permit

    if anything, the L is even more apt now :confused:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,272 ✭✭✭✭Max Power1


    Wossack wrote: »
    used to be called provisional license, now called a learner permit

    if anything, the L is even more apt now :confused:
    +1 (lol)


    why not worry about clamping down on the unacompanied learners rather than what stickers the complying ones wear?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,158 ✭✭✭✭Berty


    Max Power1 wrote: »


    why not worry about clamping down on the unacompanied learners rather than what stickers the complying ones wear?

    Because Im not working in traffic corps.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,272 ✭✭✭✭Max Power1


    Berty wrote: »
    Because Im not working in traffic corps.
    well then why suggest the idea (regarding permit v provisional licence) in the OP then??
    :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,158 ✭✭✭✭Berty


    Max Power1 wrote: »
    well then why suggest the idea in the OP then??
    :P
    Max Power1 wrote: »

    why not worry about clamping down on the unacompanied learners rather than what stickers the complying ones wear?

    Max Power asked if I should worry about clamping down on the unacompanied learners instead to which I replied Im not in traffic corps.

    How would I answer a question in the OP if I was only asked the question later on? :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,158 ✭✭✭✭Berty


    Okay peeps. The language barrier answers it.

    Learner Permit. Duh'

    I just think the fact is that most people assume the L plate gives them the right to wander in traffic unacompanied cutting out, cutting roundabouts, making dangerous mistakes spouting "How will I learn if I cannot drive".

    Change the plate on the window and people will be forced(possibly or hopefully) to understand they dont have a right to drive and the Gardai should then spot the green plate more quickly than the stupid L plate.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 350 ✭✭rubensni


    Berty wrote: »
    I just think the fact is that most people assume the L plate gives them the right to wander in traffic unacompanied cutting out, cutting roundabouts, making dangerous mistakes spouting "How will I learn if I cannot drive".

    Change the plate on the window and people will be forced(possibly or hopefully) to understand they dont have a right to drive and the Gardai should then spot the green plate more quickly than the stupid L plate.

    Well, *scratches head* how will the guards spot the green plate easier? I know they let colour blind people in to the force now, but I didn't know it was that big a problem.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,522 ✭✭✭neilthefunkeone


    Hey at least with the P most people will stick it the right way around in their windows... I hope!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,044 ✭✭✭Wossack


    Hey at least with the P most people will stick it the right way around in their windows... I hope!!!

    I'd say we'll end up with a good proportion of 'b' and 'q' drivers alright :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    The P plates are sold in Tesco for some reason

    so are GB stickers , they have a box in maynooth and im tempted to buy them and put them on all the border county cars in the college, we all know how nationalist they are


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,786 ✭✭✭slimjimmc


    Berty wrote: »
    Okay peeps. The language barrier answers it.

    Learner Permit. Duh'

    I just think the fact is that most people assume the L plate gives them the right to wander in traffic unacompanied cutting out, cutting roundabouts, making dangerous mistakes spouting "How will I learn if I cannot drive".

    Change the plate on the window and people will be forced(possibly or hopefully) to understand they dont have a right to drive and the Gardai should then spot the green plate more quickly than the stupid L plate.

    If they can't understand that "L" means Learner then perhaps they might think "P" stands for permitted to drive!

    Due to some sort of survival instinct (since red is the colour of blood) the human brain is hardwired to recognise red a lot quicker than any other colour. That's why anything dangerous (including learners :D) has a red warning attached.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,005 ✭✭✭GalwayKiefer


    slimjimmc wrote: »
    Due to some sort of survival instinct (since red is the colour of blood) the human brain is hardwired to recognise red a lot quicker than any other colour. That's why anything dangerous (including learners :D) has a red warning attached.

    Same reason the military police have red berets! :-p

    Somewhere far down the list of things I feel the traffic corps should step up enforcement of is the people who cut off the white backing of the L plate and then either slap the L onto the body work (if it's a red car) or else use it to spell out "Loonatic"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,160 ✭✭✭bmw535d


    slimjimmc wrote: »
    If they can't understand that "L" means Learner then perhaps they might think "P" stands for permitted to drive!

    Due to some sort of survival instinct (since red is the colour of blood) the human brain is hardwired to recognise red a lot quicker than any other colour. That's why anything dangerous (including learners :D) has a red warning attached.

    actually our eyes are more sensitive to green than any other color

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Eyesensitivity.png


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    Berty wrote: »
    They are not going to become a millionare overnight anyway. I used to sell twin packs of L plates a few years back for .50c per pack(cost price).

    Economics fail.

    Of course you'll never get rich sell at cost.:)


    It hasnt been a good day for Berty authored threads, hopefully the next one will be a winner and get us back on track.:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,786 ✭✭✭slimjimmc


    bmw535d wrote: »
    actually our eyes are more sensitive to green than any other color

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Eyesensitivity.png

    Yes, but it's what the brain associates with a colour that's important. The eye has a wide field of view but the brain still filters out the unimportant stuff so we're unconscious to a lot of what we see. Likewise the brain associates different meanings/emotions/connotations with different colours. Historically red is associated with danger and agression and therefore the brain reacts differently (a small amount of blood is often perceived as a lot more). In modern society we have been trained to associate red with stop/danger and green with go/safe.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,222 ✭✭✭robbie_998


    Wossack wrote: »
    I'd say we'll end up with a good proportion of 'b' and 'q' drivers alright :pac:

    that would save B&Q a whole advertising campaign !!!


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