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sagging roof and engineer's liability

  • 16-05-2010 09:20PM
    #1
    d2ww
    Closed Accounts Posts: 501 ✭✭✭


    Hoping someone can tell me how long does an engineer's liabilty last after a practical completion cert is issued?
    It's just over a year since we moved back in after a renovation, and I only just noticed that one of the valley rafters is sagging, presumably due undersizing of the rafters.
    Thanks,
    d2ww


Comments

  • #2
    Mellor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,259 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    Did the engineer size the rafters?
    Normally they are just grabbed straight out of IS444 and the engineer wouldn't size them.
    If it was non standard shape, span or loading or had elements such as steel members he would but probably not for a standard roof.


  • #3
    d2ww
    Closed Accounts Posts: 501 ✭✭✭d2ww


    Hi Mellor, it was an unusual span, so we had a meeting on site with the builder and he sized them then and there.


  • #4
    mickdw
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,812 ✭✭✭✭mickdw


    Did Engineer back that up with written confirmation or drawings?
    I feel if he saw fit to size that element on site there & then, it would have had a large safety factor built in. For that reason, it is likely that the failure might be elsewhere as in perhaps additional loading were sent through that element by the roofer through a misunderstanding of what way the roof was being constructed.
    Best to investigate & see exactly what has happened, what the costs are likely to be, where the fault likely lies. Its a poor attitude to just be looking to see if the engineer is liable. Why not give him a ring or another engineer if you wish, get a diagnosis. It could be a failed support under this member & may not be a major issue


  • #5
    sinnerboy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,433 ✭✭✭sinnerboy


    Just call the guy . Rely on goodwill first before liability . Lets know how you get on


  • #6
    d2ww
    Closed Accounts Posts: 501 ✭✭✭d2ww


    Actually we are having a meeting on site soon anyway, I certainly don't want to get all legal about it, just to have some idea of where I stand as it's just over a year since the PC cert was issued.
    Hi mickdw, actually he sized two valley rafters either side of a vaulted ceiling and they're both sagging, so yeah, it is his fault. The important thing for me though is that I'm fairly sure that it's fixable, I just don't want to end up the one with the bill.


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  • #7
    muffler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46,749 ✭✭✭✭muffler


    d2ww wrote: »
    Actually we are having a meeting on site soon anyway, I certainly don't want to get all legal about it, just to have some idea of where I stand as it's just over a year since the PC cert was issued.
    To know where you stand legally you will need to consult a solicitor as we dont allow legal issues to be debated here on the forum.

    As advised by sinnerboy talk to the guy first and then see where you stand.


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