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A general Plane crash question!

  • 15-05-2010 3:01pm
    #1
    CaptainSkidmark
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,240 ✭✭✭


    Right.... i know the chances of being in 2 crashes is seriously high....

    But is there anyone known of that has been in 2 crashes?


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  • #2
    tim_holsters
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,466 ✭✭✭tim_holsters


    Plenty of people been in two plane crashes, think of all the war related incidents.


  • #3
    Helium
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 372 ✭✭Helium


    Some of the cast in "Lost" :-)


  • #4
    Loveless
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 504 ✭✭✭Loveless


    Ernest Hemingway apparently..
    http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0002133/bio

    and Werner Herzog
    http://www.meetatthegate.com/component/option,com_article/article_id,563/


  • #5
    BrianD
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,221 ✭✭✭BrianD


    ... there was a woman Violet Jessopwho survived all three of the Olympic ships - Titantic, Olympic and Britannic. Iceberg, collision and mine so it's quite possible but the odds are very high I'd imagine. She stayed working in the cruise liner business despite these mishaps!


  • #6
    airvan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 167 ✭✭airvan


    In the old days many pilots were involved in multiple crashes. It went with the territory. I know of one current pilot who has had three crashes. Two of which were quite recent. Well one wasn't so much a crash as severe damage.:rolleyes:

    But for as for passengers. I knew this man personally. He was a rep for an aviation company. He was on his way back to England from visiting the company I worked for. Flying on an Aer Lingus SD330 or SD360. It crash landed in a field in the English East Midlands. I can't remember why. No one seriously hurt.

    He was quite shocked and didn't fly for a while. But eventually he came back to Ireland and we all chatted to him about his scary moment. That very evening as he was flying back to the UK, his Aer Lingus 737 hit a flock of birds virtually ripping off one of the engines. They only just made it back. This you might remember was the one Gay Byrne was flying on. Not quite a crash but very serious indeed.

    So the poor chap actually was involved in both of Aer Lingus' most recent bad incidents. What are the odds of that? Not only that it was only his second flight back after the Shorts crash.

    Needless to say he quit travelling for work after that and I never saw him again.


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  • #7
    EchoIndia
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,163 ✭✭✭EchoIndia


    airvan wrote: »
    But for as for passengers. I knew this man personally. He was a rep for an aviation company. He was on his way back to England from visiting the company I worked for. Flying on an Aer Lingus SD330 or SD360. It crash landed in a field in the English East Midlands. I can't remember why. No one seriously hurt.

    He was quite shocked and didn't fly for a while. But eventually he came back to Ireland and we all chatted to him about his scary moment. That very evening as he was flying back to the UK, his Aer Lingus 737 hit a flock of birds virtually ripping off one of the engines. They only just made it back.

    The dates of these incidents were 7 December 1985 for the 737 birdstrike (EI-ASA being the aircraft involved) and 31 January 1986 for the Shorts accident, so they were less than two month apart.

    This is a summary of the Shorts crash, which could well have involved fatalities had the aircraft not been kept under limited control:

    http://aviation-safety.net/database/record.php?id=19860131-1

    As the 737 incident occurred early in the day and the Shorts was lost on an evening flight, presumably it was the second, more serious, accident that put your friend off flying.


  • #8
    *Kol*
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,549 ✭✭✭*Kol*


    The captain of the Etiopian B767 that was hijacked and crashed off the Comoros Islands had been hijacked before. Bad luck on his part!!


  • #9
    Merch
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,327 ✭✭✭Merch


    BrianD wrote: »
    ... there was a woman Violet Jessopwho survived all three of the Olympic ships - Titantic, Olympic and Britannic. Iceberg, collision and mine so it's quite possible but the odds are very high I'd imagine. She stayed working in the cruise liner business despite these mishaps!

    Wasn't the iceberg a collision :) so collision, collision, mine


  • #10
    BrianD
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,221 ✭✭✭BrianD


    Merch wrote: »
    Wasn't the iceberg a collision :) so collision, collision, mine

    True but when I said "collision", I meant with another ship. :)


  • #11
    andy_g
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,561 ✭✭✭andy_g


    Sailing and boating forum here ---> http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=393


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  • #12
    airvan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 167 ✭✭airvan


    As the 737 incident occurred early in the day and the Shorts was lost on an evening flight, presumably it was the second, more serious, accident that put your friend off flying.
    I stand corrected, thanks. Not sure why I transposed the two. Memory does play tricks. Nevertheless the poor guy was most unlucky to be involved in both of Aer Lingus' most recent serious incidents. Must be some kind of record. The irony also was that the company he was visiting was an Aer Lingus subsidiary. I imagine when he finally flew again he must have avoided Aer Lingus like the plague.:P


  • #13
    FlutterinBantam
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,575 ✭✭✭✭FlutterinBantam


    airvan wrote: »
    In the old days many pilots were involved in multiple crashes. It went with the territory. I know of one current pilot who has had three crashes. Two of which were quite recent. Well one wasn't so much a crash as severe damage.:rolleyes:

    But for as for passengers. I knew this man personally. He was a rep for an aviation company. He was on his way back to England from visiting the company I worked for. Flying on an Aer Lingus SD330 or SD360. It crash landed in a field in the English East Midlands. I can't remember why. No one seriously hurt.

    He was quite shocked and didn't fly for a while. But eventually he came back to Ireland and we all chatted to him about his scary moment. That very evening as he was flying back to the UK, his Aer Lingus 737 hit a flock of birds virtually ripping off one of the engines. They only just made it back. This you might remember was the one Gay Byrne was flying on. Not quite a crash but very serious indeed.

    So the poor chap actually was involved in both of Aer Lingus' most recent bad incidents. What are the odds of that? Not only that it was only his second flight back after the Shorts crash.

    Needless to say he quit travelling for work after that and I never saw him again.


    The 'Gay Byrne ' incident occurred out of Dublin ,not the UK, flight returned to the field, it was a very serious incident.


  • #14
    airvan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 167 ✭✭airvan


    FlutterinBantam wrote: »
    The 'Gay Byrne ' incident occurred out of Dublin ,not the UK, flight returned to the field, it was a very serious incident.
    Yes that's right as I said on his way back to Britain. Both incidents were out of Dublin.


  • #15
    FlutterinBantam
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,575 ✭✭✭✭FlutterinBantam


    Sorry yes, but it was a morning flight Gaybo was on.

    I got that wrong sorry!


  • #16
    airvan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 167 ✭✭airvan


    Ah yes of course, it all comes back now. He stayed over obviously. In my defence it was a long time ago and senility has begun to kick in at this stage. But he was definitely on both flights.


  • #17
    Not
    Closed Accounts Posts: 626 ✭✭✭Not


    airvan wrote: »
    ...Aer Lingus 737 hit a flock of birds virtually ripping off one of the engines. They only just made it back. This you might remember was the one Gay Byrne was flying on. Not quite a crash but very serious indeed...

    LOL, I'm sure the bird rammed into the engine didn't quite see it that way


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