No jobs since 1997

liammur

Why has Limerick got practically no IDA backed jobs since 1997? Fianna Fail have really let us down

Berty

On the 31st March, and in partnership with the IDA, Dell hired/announced 100 jobs between Dublin and Limerick.

I suppose with a bit of effort I could find more.

Berty

Here's another with only 1 minute of googling.

http://www.idaireland.com/news-media/press-releases/75-new-jobs-for-limerick-/index.xml

liammur

berty, that's why i said 'practically' no jobs.

Since 1997, both galway and cork have got thousands of jobs, whilst we have lost thousands.

Fianna Fail failed the region badly and shops and small businesses have closed as a result

Amazotheamazing

Because Fianna Fail in Limerick are for the most part, useless.

jbkenn

liammur wrote: »

Why has Limerick got practically no IDA backed jobs since 1997? Fianna Fail have really let us down

Dell were finding it difficult to recruit and retain staff in the late 90's IDA were instructed to, shall we say, "not pursue" projects for the Mid West Region.

jbkenn

itsonlywords

liammur wrote: »

Why has Limerick got practically no IDA backed jobs since 1997? Fianna Fail have really let us down

Dont feel so privelaged, Waterford is worse and we also had a minister even though he was an underperformer.

liammur

It proves willie o dea was a complete failure. Galway got in thousands of jobs in boston scientific alone, then more in companies such as medtronic, SAP, and IBM.
Cork got even more. Waterford did poorly but still better than Limerick, hence we have the highest unemployment rate in the country, even more people unemployed here than in Cork which has over twice the population.

Fianna Failed.

Insect Overlord

Is this a thread about jobs or about Fianna Fáil?

liammur

Both, we have to look at why there were no jobs created, maybe the IDA could shed some light on it too, a bit like Limerick FC v Barcelona, the FAI will inevitably be drawn into that.

Amazotheamazing

Insect Overlord wrote: »

Is this a thread about jobs or about Fianna Fáil?

Both, becuase Fianna Fail decide where the IDA jobs go.

ninty9er

Amazotheamazing wrote: »

Both, becuase Fianna Fail decide where the IDA jobs go.

Based on need. Limerick wasn't in any MAJOR need of IDA backed jobs, especially as IDA central (Shannon) provides employment for thousands of Limerick people.

If anything it's probably a good thing that we didn't accumulate more Dells that could **** off when it didn't suit them to be here anymore.

bacon&cabbage

ninty9er wrote: »

Based on need. Limerick wasn't in any MAJOR need of IDA backed jobs, especially as IDA central (Shannon) provides employment for thousands of Limerick people.

If anything it's probably a good thing that we didn't accumulate more Dells that could **** off when it didn't suit them to be here anymore.

I agree, I don't think we can look at Limerick as it's own seperate entity based on lines on a map. I think it has to be looked at as a region. The Midwest region, The Shannon region or whatever.


In any case http://www.theregister.co.uk/1998/09/05/dell_to_open_third_factory/

Kess73

bacon&cabbage wrote: »

I agree, I don't think we can look at Limerick as it's own seperate entity based on lines on a map. I think it has to be looked at as a region. The Midwest region, The Shannon region or whatever.


In any case http://www.theregister.co.uk/1998/09/05/dell_to_open_third_factory/

Actually I think there is a valid arguement as to why Limerick should be looked at as a seperate entity rather than as part of the region as a whole.

When it is looked at as part of a region, then the unemployment figures get skewed somewhat as it gets taken as an average for the region, but Limerick on it's own has a very high rate of unemployment, even before the recession really kicked in.

In 2006 Limerick City had the highest rate of unemployment in the country and stood at 14.6%, since then things had gotten a lot worse on the unemployment front, with Limerick coming in at roughly double the national average at present as the unemplyment rate has grown to be above the 20% mark.

Other counties have been hit hard in recent years too, but seeing as Limerick was already the worst in the country for unemployment when the recession started, that problem has only been compounded in the years since.

Many of the other counties that are being hit hard, are now hitting the same % of unemployment levels that Limerick had four years ago

Amazotheamazing

Kess73 wrote: »

Actually I think there is a valid arguement as to why Limerick should be looked at as a seperate entity rather than as part of the region as a whole.

When it is looked at as part of a region, then the unemployment figures get skewed somewhat as it gets taken as an average for the region, but Limerick on it's own has a very high rate of unemployment, even before the recession really kicked in.

In 2006 Limerick City had the highest rate of unemployment in the country and stood at 14.6%, since then things had gotten a lot worse on the unemployment front, with Limerick coming in at roughly double the national average at present as the unemplyment rate has grown to be above the 20% mark.

Other counties have been hit hard in recent years too, but seeing as Limerick was already the worst in the country for unemployment when the recession started, that problem has only been compounded in the years since.

Many of the other counties that are being hit hard, are now hitting the same % of unemployment levels that Limerick had four years ago

You must have missed where the Fianna Fail member (99'er) said Limerick didn't need jobs since 1997. Never mind that parts of Limerick still had high unemployment, Fianna Fail decided Limerick simply didn't need jobs. Who cares if we've been above the national average of unemployment in that time, we simply don't need to work, Fianna Fail have decided that for us. Thanks boys, explains a lot about how they see the region.

Kess73

Amazotheamazing wrote: »

You must have missed where the Fianna Fail member (99'er) said Limerick didn't need jobs since 1997. Never mind that parts of Limerick still had high unemployment, Fianna Fail decided Limerick simply didn't need jobs. Who cares if we've been above the national average of unemployment in that time, we simply don't need to work, Fianna Fail have decided that for us. Thanks boys, explains a lot about how they see the region.

My post was not to knock ninty9er, or anyone else on here, it was a response to B&C's post about the region being taken as a whole and why I think it should not be.

liammur

i thought yours was an excellent post.
It was shameful the way Limerick was left to be a 1-trick with pony with Dell, especially since we all knew Dell was in trouble long before they left.
What we need in Limerick are high end jobs like google.

invinciblePRSTV

liammur wrote: »

i thought yours was an excellent post.
It was shameful the way Limerick was left to be a 1-trick with pony with Dell, especially since we all knew Dell was in trouble long before they left.
What we need in Limerick are high end jobs like google.

Limerick in population terms is a large town, as is Galway & Waterford. You can't expect parity in job announcements in comparison with Cork or Dublin. With the likes of Google in particular they were only ever going to locate in Dublin due to an assortment of reasons involving economies of scale, access to skilled workforce and IT infrastructure and proximity to transport hubs like Dublin airport.

liammur

No body expected or indeed wanted parity with those cities, but practically zero jobs in over a 13 period of unprecedented growth in the country is frightening, no matter what party you support or area you come from.