Coaches Fight?

juijitsu black

Its great to see Paul Cowzer is going to fight in Cage Conteder V. I here as a coach he is very good. But is he the only coach in Ireland who has the nerve to fight?? I think it is good for a coach to compete as it shows balls and lets their team know he is willing to do what they do:cool:.
Why dont more coaches Fight? I fought in England recently and had a very close win, (B Class) but a guy who I know from another club that also coaches tapped me and beat me just two weeks before that, or should is say beat me bad and then tapped me, Lol.:eek: but he dosent compete. Any opinions?

kid chaos

Well alot of coaches are not the youngest. They are more experienced TMA coaches eg. muay thai or BJJ

Its easy for a coach to tell you what to do and how fast/hard to do it.

My coach trains and fights along side me and it motivates me ALOT more and they understand alot more as a fighter.

They can see from the coaches point of view aswell as the fighters point of view

Mrs Lynch

There hav been lots of coaches who fought and coached (some still at it)- Rodney Moore, Emmet McNally, Liam Shannon, Conor Cassidy, and even the ole boys did it Peter Lavery and Davy Patterson :P

I think it does show a degree of "courage" and "inspiration" but its not the end all. Excellent fighters are coming out of camps wer their coach may specialise in other arts:cool:

Urs
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roo1981

I'd imagine a lot of it comes down to time and focus. To compete in a pro rules fight is a big commitment, a ton of time has to be spent sparring and conditioning training-time a lot of coaches just dont have as their spending it organising classes and running their clubs (which most run as a full time business). And, as kid mentioned, most of the top coaches might not be the youngest anymore

Ryan Roddy

Alot of the coaches have fought as was said before, which is good for fighters to look up to and also trust them in what they are teaching you. Personally I used to watch Emmett Mcnally fight and after he had kod someone it made me feel much more confident in my own skills, sad as that may sound!

There is also a school of thought that to be the best coach possible it is probably better not to fight at all. Coaching a pro fighter(s) is a massive commitment and if you look at the top coaches many of them dont fight at all. Shawn thompkins doesnt fight (he has an mma record of 1-4 i think?) but he found his niche was coaching, same as greg jackson.

From the point of few of a coach fighting it must be difficult to coach yourself to fight and also keep coaching the rest of your club?

weemate

To be honest,to be prepared for a fight you need at least 6 weeks proper training,if you are going to have any chance of winning.Most coaches would have to give up training their students to do this and if they have a full time gym then thats not possible as the rent still has to be paid.
I made the choice a couple of years ago to stop fighting in mma because I couldnt do both coaching and fighting.I do still compete in BJJ however because I can do my prep as part of a class.
I think for most of us,MMA came too late,we where already in our 30's or as near as be damned when the first events where held so it did give us a limited shelf life as fighters but we did what we could before retiring.

Martin Walker

juijitsu black wrote: »

Its great to see Paul Cowzer is going to fight in Cage Conteder V. I here as a coach he is very good. But is he the only coach in Ireland who has the nerve to fight?? I think it is good for a coach to compete as it shows balls and lets their team know he is willing to do what they do:cool:.
Why dont more coaches Fight? I fought in England recently and had a very close win, (B Class) but a guy who I know from another club that also coaches tapped me and beat me just two weeks before that, or should is say beat me bad and then tapped me, Lol.:eek: but he dosent compete. Any opinions?

I dont think it has anything to do with "Balls" or "Nerve" as you so eloquently put it. As many of the guys above have mentioned alot of factors come into a coach not fighting. Time is the biggest in my opinion. Many of the clubs that are ran by retired or inactive fighters are the biggest clubs around that provide full time training facilities for members. Spreading yourself around numerous classes dosnt leave much time to get the proper training in to prep for a fight yourself.

Paul Cowzer is also not the only Active fighter/coach on the Irish Circuit. Both Shane Thomas and Barry Oglesby are booked to fight on my Spartan Pro show in June. You can also look at "junior" or "second" coaches. In Our club Martin Begley Coaches the beginner MMA class and Junior Kickboxing. As far as i know Steve McCombe from EFR helps in Coaching Beginners and the Ladies class in EFRG Antrim. Both of these men are among the most active fighters in Ireland.

I personally only know of one club that is coached by a man that has never competed. And im pretty sure he never will. Is that wrong? Thats not for me to say.
I have had the privilege of watching Rod Moore, David Patterson, Peter Lavery, Emmet McNally, Colin Robinson, Marty Walker (snr) and Mark Leonard fighting over the years. Id love to see them fight again but for most of them i cant see it. Well apart from David Patterson as i hear hes thinking of coming out of retirement next year after a successful knee operation!

Anakin.S

juijitsu black wrote: »

I fought in England recently and had a very close win, (B Class) but a guy who I know from another club that also coaches tapped me and beat me just two weeks before that, or should is say beat me bad and then tapped me, Lol.:eek: but he dosent compete. Any opinions?

You fought two weeks apart? Do you think that is wise? You know your own body but I would of thought that getting beat and then only getting a marginal win two weeks later would tell you something

John Ferguson

juijitsu black wrote: »

Why dont more coaches Fight? I fought in England recently and had a very close win

Congrats on the win, what show was it on?