The Killer Inside Me

JP Liz V1

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0954947/

Trailer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oq94Nbrupk8

I think Casey Affleck is a very talented underrated actor imo and its from Michael Winterbottom so I have high expectations

MrStuffins

I only actually saw this trailer today myself.

Casey Affleck is a fantastic actor! And it's at the point now where i consider anything he touches to be worth watching.

Can't wait to check this out.

MrSir

Looking forward to this one.I personally feel the controversy surrounding it's level of violence is ridiculous and uncalled for.It's not exactly Antichrist.Should be a great film.

Slugs

MrStuffins wrote: »

I only actually saw this trailer today myself.

Casey Affleck is a fantastic actor! And it's at the point now where i consider anything he touches to be worth watching.

Can't wait to check this out.

Any relation to ben?

MrStuffins

Slugs wrote: »

Any relation to ben?

Yes, they're brothers.

It's amazing to think so. I find Ben very boring. But Casey is outstanding in everything i've seen him in.

Slugs

MrStuffins wrote: »

Yes, they're brothers.

It's amazing to think so. I find Ben very boring. But Casey is outstanding in everything i've seen him in.

Hmm... Well he can't be worse than his brother, I've yet to see a decent performance from Affleck. He's so light weight. I didn't think the trailer too enticing to be honest... o.O

MrStuffins

Slugs wrote: »

Hmm... Well he can't be worse than his brother, I've yet to see a decent performance from Affleck. He's so light weight. I didn't think the trailer too enticing to be honest... o.O

Which Affleck? Casey Affleck has had some great performances. Have you seen Gone Baby Gone? (ironically directed by Ben Affleck). One of the best movies...well... ever IMO!

His best though was as Robert Ford in The Assassination of Jessie James.... He was unlucky that he was nominated in the same year as Javier Bardem for No Country for Old Men.

This was the first movie i had taken notice of him, his performance was outstanding as a reallu unhinged and jealous Robert Ford and he really stole the show.

seraphimvc

never heard about it

but jessica = sold to me =_,=

JP Liz V1

In Michael Winterbottom’s “The Killer Inside Me,” Jessica Alba is spanked, and pulverized, fist to face, fist to face, fist to poor pretty face, by Casey Affleck for a good three minutes or so. Until her eyes are swollen shut and part of her face has been smashed away, exposing her jaw.

Fizman

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

In Michael Winterbottom’s “The Killer Inside Me,” Jessica Alba is spanked, and pulverized, fist to face, fist to face, fist to poor pretty face, by Casey Affleck for a good three minutes or so. Until her eyes are swollen shut and part of her face has been smashed away, exposing her jaw.

I read that and it made me go :eek:.

Aidric

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

I think Casey Affleck is a very talented underrated actor imo and its from Michael Winterbottom so I have high expectations

I'd hardly call Casey Affleck underrated. He is one of the finest actors around imo. His performance in Jesse James was one of the all time greats.

MrStuffins

Aidric wrote: »

I'd hardly call Casey Affleck underrated. He is one of the finest actors around imo. His performance in Jesse James was one of the all time greats.

Yes, but he is still under-rated as unless you're really into your movies, nobody really knows he exists!

Otis Driftwood

Read the review in todays paper.Supposed to be decent enough but that those of a nervous disposition should avoid for

the reason spoilered above and another similar scene of extreme violence against a woman.

JP Liz V1

Aidric wrote: »

I'd hardly call Casey Affleck underrated. He is one of the finest actors around imo. His performance in Jesse James was one of the all time greats.

I doubt anyone really knew about him until his oscar nominated role in The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford

Richard Dower

I saw the Newsnight film review....they all critizied it.

X-Calibre

Saw this last night and didn't really like it. I went into it hoping to enjoy it but I found it quite boring. There wasn't really anything in it to keep me emotionally invested and not a whole lot happened

The scene in question was a bit over indulgent I thought and kind of ridiculous. Seemed like it was used as a shock factor rather than developing the plot/character.

That said it had it's good moments and there were some pretty funny/interesting characters (the drunken sheriff). Casey Affleck was fairly strong as well but as a whole it wasn't great.

jeffreylebowski

I'm looking forward to it, Casey Affleck is really talented.
Incidentally, I was really pleased with Gone Baby Gone, Ben Affleck was a bit of a figure of fun to most people but now I think people would look a bit foolish calling him talentless in light of Gone Baby Gone. Nice to see a fella turn things around for himself like that.

Handsome Bob

Thought it was pretty excellent and as usual, the media have overreacted. The violence is not that bad, I have seen much much worse. One review claimed that

he leaves nothing of Jessica Alba's face. It's such an exagerration, I'd even take issue with the above claim that her jaw is exposed. If it is exposed it's not something that is shown in an overly grotesque manner.

Affleck's performance is very unsettling all the same, I loved the scene when he was

in the jail cell with Johnny and he said that he had a footing on both side of the fence, seemingly suggesting to his ever increasing insanity and the mask of sanity that he wears.

The cinema erupted in laughter at the end when he made a quip about [paraphrase]

you must be the guy with no words so don't bother saying anything.

--LOS--

Caught this film yesterday and as others have rightly pointed out Cassey Affleck was excellent, lovably evil! I thought it was very much along the lines of no country for old men although not as good a film as that.

Although there was some violence in it that makes people especially uncomfortable since it's violence towards women, it was never gruesome or hard to watch.

baby and crumble

The thing about it is that violence like this happens, every day to women. It SHOULD be unsettling to see it in a movie. I still don't think it was done 'for shock value', it really helps you get inside the head of this guy.

I'm not sure if I can find it - I'll try any way - but the director, Michael Winterbottom, addressed the level of violence in a recent interview with the BBC5 Live critic, Mark Kermode.

He pointed out that you have to show violence for how it is - disgusting and raw and terrible.

Haven't seen it yet, and don't know if I can, just because I am unsure if I can stomach that level of violence. As sad as this may sound; the infamous "kerbing" scene at the start of American History X is the main reason I cannot watch that movie.

LittleBook

Were you surprised by the shocked reactions to the violence?

“The book is shocking in its violence and I wanted the film to shock people in the sense that, when you’re watching someone punch someone, it should be horrible. Lou is a weak person who’s using violence to compensate for his weakness. You’re not supposed to admire Lou, you’re not supposed to find him amiable, so the violence is supposed to be ugly and shocking.

“There seemed to be people saying, ‘The violence is brutal and I think it’s immoral that you’ve put this violence in the film’. I think that’s where I was surprised, and I disagree. If you’re going to take a moral position on violence in cinema, then surely it’s more immoral to show violence as easy and fun and a good solution, or things that heroes do – an easy way of fixing things – something that’s entertainment. If you show something that’s kind of brutal and horrible, that is a more moral approach, I think.”

JohnnyRyan99

How would u rate Alba's performence?

paddyismaddy

affleck is brillant in this its getting a bad rep for the violence i didnt think it was that bad

--LOS--

JohnnyRyan99 wrote: »

How would u rate Alba's performence?

Her performance or her ass!
Can't say much about her performance, eye candy for they guys, could have been any number of people in her role, few could have carried off Lou's character as well as Cassey.

Fox McCloud

I thought it was really good, had read no reviews so its my own fault but the violence did shock me!

Once you know what level of violence is in a film I dont think its a problem. It is called "the killer inside me" so you can take from that its not going to be a romcom..

Handsome Bob

Just curious to know if anyone knows of any other films similar to this one? I really enjoyed this film, the whole calm bloke who is really a murdering nutjob schtick really appeals to me. I enjoyed American Psycho for similar reasons too. So, yeah, anyone have any suggestions for me? :pac:

--LOS--

LZ5by5 wrote: »

Just curious to know if anyone knows of any other films similar to this one? I really enjoyed this film, the whole calm bloke who is really a murdering nutjob schtick really appeals to me. I enjoyed American Psycho for similar reasons too. So, yeah, anyone have any suggestions for me? :pac:

Well I found it quite like 'no country for old men' minus the sex.

I love that calm bloke psycho thing, Michael Pitt is good at that, maybe 'Funny Games'.

LZ5by5

LZ5by5 wrote: »

Just curious to know if anyone knows of any other films similar to this one? I really enjoyed this film, the whole calm bloke who is really a murdering nutjob schtick really appeals to me. I enjoyed American Psycho for similar reasons too. So, yeah, anyone have any suggestions for me? :pac:

He Was A Quiet Man is great, one of the oddest and most surreal films of recent years. You can pick it up for a few euro in most places and it's well worth getting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rL_q2XL1J_A

OutlawPete

Superb movie but unfortunately I seen it in Vue one night and the place was full of muppet twats laughing their head off at everything, whistling at the screen, texting, chatting.

I pray they die slow painful deaths someday.

--LOS--

OutlawPete wrote: »

Superb movie but unfortunately I seen it in Vue one night and the place was full of muppet twats laughing their head off at everything, whistling at the screen, texting, chatting.

I pray they die slow painful deaths someday.

ughh, you'd think in an over 18s film that wouldn't happen.

I went to see it randomly during the day to hide from the sun so there were about 10 people there, I also read the times wrong, asked for something like 2.30, then walked in to the end of the 12.40 one thinking wtf I've never been late for a movie, 2.30 was the weekend time or something and the next one was after 3 so had to wait

/facepalm

As few people as there were, there were fewer by the end :P

OutlawPete

--LOS-- wrote: »

ughh, you'd think in an over 18s film that wouldn't happen.

I went to see it randomly during the day to hide from the sun so there were about 10 people there, I also read the times wrong, asked for something like 2.30, then walked in to the end of the 12.40 one thinking wtf I've never been late for a movie, 2.30 was the weekend time or something and the next one was after 3 so had to wait

/facepalm

I went to see the Danial Day Lewis film Nine a few months back during the day and was all set with my Popcorn and Hot Dog, Ben and Jerrys .. when on came a kids movie.

Turned out I had went to see 9 not Nine

--LOS-- wrote: »

As few people as there were, there were fewer by the end :P

Did you get caught fapping?

conorhal

TBH it wasn't the voilence that put me off catching this it was Winterbottom. He's a very hit and miss director and personally I find his best films to be the lighter and more comedic affairs like Tristam Shandy or 24hr Party People. Whenever he shoots for 'worthy' or 'important' he makes awful po-faced crap. 9 Songs has to have been one of the worst films I'd seen in a long time.

--LOS--

OutlawPete wrote: »

I went to see the Danial Day Lewis film Nine a few months back during the day and was all set with my Popcorn and Hot Dog, Ben and Jerrys .. when on came a kids movie.

Turned out I had went to see 9 not Nine

Lol you win!

Were both of them on that day though? The ticket person should have checked with you or was it just you :P

I asked for the 2.30 showing for the killer inside but they obviously weren't listening.

Ah now just coz it's animated doesn't mean...........haven't seen it so I won't comment.

OutlawPete wrote: »

Did you get caught fapping?

Jeez no.

Movie may or may not have looked different through my eyes, may or may not have substituted Jessica with myself :pac:

johnny_ultimate

*steers thread back on topic*

Just back from seeing this, and I think I liked it. One of those films that doesn't necessarily grab you for the whole running time, but has a lot of interesting ideas at the same time. Casey Affleck truly is one of the best young actors out there today, and he does manage to carry the film IMO.

Anyone have any thoughts on the ending?

I read it as the fantastical, imagined conclusion to the narrative Lou has conjured up in his head. It's too perfect, especially given the cluster**** that has preceded it. It's like Lou has created an image of himself as the perfect killer, and can't accept that his murders were messy. Hence people were able to pin it on him, eventually getting him declared 'insane'. I don't know if the ending was entirely fictional in his head, but I assume at some point his grasp of reality slipped and he created his own conclusion.

Also, the violence really isn't that bad, and it isn't frickin' misogynistic. People are violent, violence happens. Cinemas job is to address these issues, if that means shocking those whose job it is to be shocked, fair enough. But it genuinely isn't that bad here (Antichrist is so much worse, and no-one was accusing Lars Von Trier of extreme violence against men and women), and it fits thematically and tonally with the rest of the film. Some journalists need to stop making a big deal out of violence. This is a film for adults, that has a narrative and thematic justification for 'extreme' content. Just deal with it, Daily Mail!

Basq

I just watched this last week.. and really enjoyed it!

I haven't seen a lot of movies that held my attention throughout recently (maybe I've been going through a spell of picking poor movies) but I was absolutely enthralled through this.

Yes, the violent is intense.. but to be fair, the graphic violence served a purpose. I could never really sympathise with Lou.. I don't think we were supposed to.. (Affleck) but

his ability to remain calm and collected throughout the running time, given what's he done, was quite something.

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Affleck's performance (as usual) is a tour-de-force.. maybe Ben should stick to the directing. Also Simon Baker was very good in this too!

I recommend it for something a little different, simmering with intensity, largely very well-written but if you're easily offended, look elsewhere!

Morlar

I liked it - not a great film but definitely more watchable than most hollywood crap.

The violence is graphic but that's a refreshing change to most movies where violence has a cartoon element and no one really gets hurt. In this one it's basically played to be as realistic as possible. Violence aside there is a great cast - not sure about alba but the rest of them were very convincing and perfectly believable all the way through - even ned beatty who had very few lines or screentime was convincing. The story is one I would go for - the scene of Lou strutting down dallas like a kid on a daytrip was quite spooky considering what he was in the middle of.

senordingdong

Can't say I was overlly impressed with this film.

It definitely seemed to be going places at a steady pace but then seemed to be let off the lead around the halfway mark and senselessly ran wild.

Warper

Decent film

Nervous Wreck

Post contains spoilers.


Wasn't overly enthused on this. Without Affleck, this film would have been much much worse and I think that speaks a lot in itself. It started really well and the pacing seemed really good up until the halfway point. At that stage, we had established that he was a mentaller who was killing people etc. But after that, there was very little tension... I could never really care whether Lou would get caught or not. He almost didn't seem to care himself. When we're seeing a world through the eyes of the protagonist, we need to feel it through them too. Since he had practically no emotion throughout, it was hard to feel anything. The violence at the start was raw and hit me hard. The violence toward the end was nothing. By that stage, I'd learned to switch my feelings off, cos that's what Lou did. I agree with whomever it was who said the end was overly fantastical (as a purposeful plot-device) and I liked that element. Before all the main players entered the house, Lou seemed to be practicing his snappy opening statement, repeating "Long time, no see" to himself over and over, as if he was trying to make the situation like a scene from a movie (if you will). It was a nice touch. Decent film but a little scattered and stunted. Best part was Casey Affleck's performance.

geoffraffe

Just watched this film last night. Thought it was pretty meh TBH. Cassey Afleck plays the psycho quite well but the film didn't really do it for me.

The ending though, really p1ssed me off.

How did the people who came into the house not smell the petrol/alcohol? How did they not think he was up to something? Grrrrr. Really hated how they ended it!

Sorry for the rant

Chad ghostal

geoffraffe wrote: »

The ending though, really p1ssed me off.

How did the people who came into the house not smell the petrol/alcohol? How did they not think he was up to something? Grrrrr. Really hated how they ended it!

Yup, hated this too. I thought the rest of the film was very good. I found the first beating fairly brutal, but not OTT; more realistic.

johnny_ultimate wrote:

Anyone have any thoughts on the ending? Spoiler: I read it as the fantastical, imagined conclusion to the narrative Lou has conjured up in his head. It's too perfect, especially given the cluster**** that has preceded it. It's like Lou has created an image of himself as the perfect killer, and can't accept that his murders were messy. Hence people were able to pin it on him, eventually getting him declared 'insane'. I don't know if the ending was entirely fictional in his head, but I assume at some point his grasp of reality slipped and he created his own conclusion.

While I find this theory interesting, I'm not convinced. It makes sense, but I don't think the film can/should just slip into an

imaginary setting

without giving the viewer some sort of hint. It's been a while since I've seen this, but can't remember any other scene in the film hinting at this type of scenario (i.e.

seeing events alter from reality through Afflecks characters imagination.

). Was there anything directly in the film that made you think this ?

temply

conorhal wrote: »

TBH it wasn't the voilence that put me off catching this it was Winterbottom. He's a very hit and miss director and personally I find his best films to be the lighter and more comedic affairs like Tristam Shandy or 24hr Party People. Whenever he shoots for 'worthy' or 'important' he makes awful po-faced crap. 9 Songs has to have been one of the worst films I'd seen in a long time.

I picked up 9 Songs in HMV there when it was on special offer - didn't pay much attention, put it on and well......... me oh my

PeterTheEighth

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

I think Casey Affleck is a very talented underrated actor imo and its from Michael Winterbottom so I have high expectations

I got this movie the other night, and watched in spite of absolutely hating Casey Affleck. Same broody, self indulgent posing, and the mumbling... my god. I was about two thirds way through it, was sitting back in the car mumbling out something and I just got sick of having to lean in to the TV to hear him. I switched it off and I'll never watch him again.

Dirty Dingus McGee

The Killer Inside Me is a terrific film (the book is even better) and I love Casey Affleck, he was brilliant in Jesse James and Gone Baby Gone.

Liam McPoyle

The book is fantastic, brilliant character study of a disturbed mind.

The movie has been in my to watch pile for ages now.