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porte

My mate is renting an old farm house in the cork/kerry mountins. While he was away visiting I called to feed his cat every other day. While there I felt down and depressed, never spooked. After saying this to him on his return he told me his brothers two young children who were playing in an upstairs back bedroom came running down crying and screaming that the chair had moved!!!:eek: We are now thinking of doing a seance to "see" what happens. Any thoughts or ideas on a correct way to do this.

maccored

just to be clear - you want to do a seance because you felt a bit down and some imaginative kids reckoned a chair moved? Don't want to put you off the idea, but it doesnt sound very paranormal.

steddyeddy

Guys do you mind me asking is all you tackle on the skeptics forum ghosts and soothsayers i started a bigfoot thread and you dont seem able to tackle it

maccored

ive no idea what to tell you about big foot. could it exist? no reason why not. does it? ive no idea. In fact i thnk your thread was answered in the first few posts.

porte

steddyeddy wrote: »

Guys do you mind me asking is all you tackle on the skeptics forum ghosts and soothsayers i started a bigfoot thread and you dont seem able to tackle it

What is it with people, this is my fvcking thread on a creepy house not some twat dressed in a fancy dress monkey costume. Paranormal > skeptics corner. I dont think Big toe and his hairy nuts fall into this category.

kylith

porte wrote: »

My mate is renting an old farm house in the cork/kerry mountins. While he was away visiting I called to feed his cat every other day. While there I felt down and depressed, never spooked. After saying this to him on his return he told me his brothers two young children who were playing in an upstairs back bedroom came running down crying and screaming that the chair had moved!!!:eek: We are now thinking of doing a seance to "see" what happens. Any thoughts or ideas on a correct way to do this.

I don't think that a creepy feeling and some overactive imaginations warrent calling in the ghost busters just yet

Let us know if the walls start to bleed

storm2811

A seance?Like a ouija board type thing?

Wouldn't do it,used to dabble around with them before,scary as sh1t..
Did ask a few Q's about the near future though,and everything it said would happen did!:/

Dave!

Me and my mates all saw a 'shape shifter' (must have seen it originally in a cartoon or somethin) in the top window of the corner house of our estate, when we were younger.

We also saw a ghost's face in the window of my mate's shed

Except we didn't at all, we were just imaginative kids

We also did an ouija board and it kept moving and scared the sh*t out of us! But it turned out it was one of the lads moving it the whole time.

Moral of the story: don't take what kids say as gospel. They're even less discerning than adults when it comes to determining whether something is 'paranormal' or not.

And feeling down/depressed = not paranormal

Dave!

steddyeddy wrote: »

Guys do you mind me asking is all you tackle on the skeptics forum ghosts and soothsayers i started a bigfoot thread and you dont seem able to tackle it

eddy you've been preparing those final statements on Bigfoot for 10 days now, I'm expecting something special !

vampire of kilmainham

porte wrote: »

My mate is renting an old farm house in the cork/kerry mountins. While he was away visiting I called to feed his cat every other day. While there I felt down and depressed, never spooked. After saying this to him on his return he told me his brothers two young children who were playing in an upstairs back bedroom came running down crying and screaming that the chair had moved!!!:eek: We are now thinking of doing a seance to "see" what happens. Any thoughts or ideas on a correct way to do this.

Dont do a seance if you are not experianced in doing it you have to use certain prayers before you start to keep away any evil and then you have to close off properly at the finish so no spirits remain behind and cause problems maybe someone here might have some knowledge on what words or prayers that you should use.:eek::eek:

ChocolateSauce

I'm not sure there is a "correct" way to do something totally pointless.

kylith

storm2811 wrote: »

A seance?Like a ouija board type thing?

Wouldn't do it,used to dabble around with them before,scary as sh1t..
Did ask a few Q's about the near future though,and everything it said would happen did!:/

Ouija boards have been shown over and over to be caused by the idiomotor effect, i.e. that even if you don't think you are, you or someone else at the table is moving the glass.

storm2811

kylith wrote: »

Ouija boards have been shown over and over to be caused by the idiomotor effect, i.e. that even if you don't think you are, you or someone else at the table is moving the glass.

Yeah yeah,Derren Brown ruined it for me years ago:pac:
But still,the fuuuture!

MrMojoRisin

porte wrote: »

What is it with people, this is my fvcking thread on a creepy house not some twat dressed in a fancy dress monkey costume. Paranormal > skeptics corner. I dont think Big toe and his hairy nuts fall into this category.

LMAO! :pac:

MrMojoRisin

Dave! wrote: »

Me and my mates all saw a 'shape shifter' (must have seen it originally in a cartoon or somethin) in the top window of the corner house of our estate, when we were younger.

We also saw a ghost's face in the window of my mate's shed

Except we didn't at all, we were just imaginative kids

We also did an ouija board and it kept moving and scared the sh*t out of us! But it turned out it was one of the lads moving it the whole time.

Moral of the story: don't take what kids say as gospel. They're even less discerning than adults when it comes to determining whether something is 'paranormal' or not.

I agree with what you're saying about thinking you saw something 'paranormal' as a child, before realising it was just your imagination getting the better of you. That has happened to me many times.

Agreed RE: that feckin' ouija board and people moving the glass/planchette as well. Ditto for 'table tipping' and all that other kooky crap.

There have been things I've seen as a child and teenager that I knew weren't the product of my imagination though. I've gone over the incidents in my head dozens and dozens of times since to try to account for their occurrence, but I haven't found a satisfactory (IMO) explanation yet. Of course, that's my own subjective body of experiences and viewpoint, but I'm just trying to illustrate what I believe to be a dichotomy of imagination vs. reality and being able to distinguish one from the other...

Dave! wrote: »

And feeling down/depressed = not paranormal

Yes, that is physiological...

steddyeddy

Dave! wrote: »

eddy you've been preparing those final statements on Bigfoot for 10 days now, I'm expecting something special !

Man you will get something special

steddyeddy

As for hauntings and ghosts im not convinced of their reality however theres a interesting theory that areas with a high level natural infrasound will produce the uncomfortable feeling ascoiated with haunted places.

MrMojoRisin

steddyeddy wrote: »

As for hauntings and ghosts im not convinced of their reality

Yeah. You need to see the things for yourself really.

steddyeddy wrote: »

however theres a interesting theory that areas with a high level natural infrasound will produce the uncomfortable feeling associated with haunted places.

I read and heard about that before and it seems perfectly reasonable.

I've never believed that an uncomfortable 'feeling' about a place is enough to label it 'haunted'. It all comes down to what you see directly in front of you with your two eyes. If it's still there more than ten seconds later, that helps.

kylith

MrMojoRisin wrote: »

Yeah. You need to see the things for yourself really.



I read and heard about that before and it seems perfectly reasonable.

I've never believed that an uncomfortable 'feeling' about a place is enough to label it 'haunted'. It all comes down to what you see directly in front of you with your two eyes. If it's still there more than ten seconds later, that helps.

And catching it on camera is a definite bonus.

Oryx

@porte, re your original question. The traditional way to hold a seance was in a darkened room, preferably with only a low, red light source. Seances were generally led by a medium, but if you dont have one any ol person should do. Record the whole session. Have props in the room such as stacked coins, and for some reason, the old skool seancers felt a trumpet was obligatory? You sit in the dark, hold hands, or not, and ask questions of 'whoever' is there. And sit and wait to see what happens. And wait. And wait. If youre filming it for posterity or living tv, youll need one hysterical female present, of course.

I know Im being a bit daft above, I think you can tell how I feel about seances, but generally that is the traditional way of doing such things (minus any hysterical women). I dont agree with any of it, I think its a nonsense way to go about it, and I also think it engenders fear, which is never good.

MrMojoRisin

Oryx wrote: »

@porte, re your original question. The traditional way to hold a seance was in a darkened room, preferably with only a low, red light source. Seances were generally led by a medium, but if you dont have one any ol person should do. Record the whole session. Have props in the room such as stacked coins, and for some reason, the old skool seancers felt a trumpet was obligatory? You sit in the dark, hold hands, or not, and ask questions of 'whoever' is there. And sit and wait to see what happens. And wait. And wait. If youre filming it for posterity or living tv, youll need one hysterical female present, of course.

I know Im being a bit daft above, I think you can tell how I feel about seances, but generally that is the traditional way of doing such things (minus any hysterical women). I dont agree with any of it, I think its a nonsense way to go about it, and I also think it engenders fear, which is never good.

I think it'd be a great idea if there were a couple of 'fright nights' held in one of Ireland's accessible and supposedly 'most haunted' locations over the summer. Recreate all these old skool parlour tricks like dimly-lit seances with a feckin' trumpet :pac:, etc, a spot of table tipping, and whatever else anyone can think of (my mind is barren at the mo'). Featuring, say, no more than 15 participants present each time. Each fright night could be recorded on camera (like a proper episode) and then uploaded to YouTube, or whatever.

In order to prevent any hysterical idiots and/or raucous messers (although, yes, it's essentially all in the spirit - hee, hee - of fun) applying for a place on each of the fright nights, they should be required to complete a short and intelligently-formed questionaire beforehand, or something. Well, most of the boardsies knocking around here should be interested in it, and most are grand.

Yeah, so 'Victorian Fright Night', or something. There could even be an option to attend in fancy dress.

Either way, the whole thing should be intended to be fun...

Oryx

Kinda like a murder mystery, but waaay after the fact. I like it.

A new thread might be an idea for discussing it tho!

maccored

alternate explainations for a lot of paranormal activity can be covered by infrasound (apparitions, seeing things in the corner of the eye, various sounds - google vic tandy) high electromagnetic radiation (creepy feelings, feeling sick etc) and ionispheric ducting (electronic voice phenomena).

steddyeddy wrote: »

As for hauntings and ghosts im not convinced of their reality however theres a interesting theory that areas with a high level natural infrasound will produce the uncomfortable feeling ascoiated with haunted places.

steddyeddy

maccored wrote: »

alternate explainations for a lot of paranormal activity can be covered by infrasound (apparitions, seeing things in the corner of the eye, various sounds - google vic tandy) high electromagnetic radiation (creepy feelings, feeling sick etc) and ionispheric ducting (electronic voice phenomena).

Yes very true from my work in zoology for intstance we are finding out a lot about the way animals of certain types produce infra sound and how that greatly affects humans (we apparantly used to be a lot more sensitive to it), Tigers produce a lot of it of infra sound and the effects on humans are remarkable, it for instanse can cause feelings of awe or fear in humans Since it is not consciously perceived, it can make people feel vaguely that events taking place are of a paranormal nature.

steddyeddy

Should add i have no direct work with infrasound cant take credit for that

irishjig69b

porte wrote: »

What is it with people, this is my fvcking thread on a creepy house not some twat dressed in a fancy dress monkey costume. Paranormal > skeptics corner. I dont think Big toe and his hairy nuts fall into this category.

Great response piss ing myself

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