fibre optic to coaxial converter for sky?

bittihuduga

hi
sky has fibre optic running in our apartment building.
i cannot just connect my box for fta channels because of this.
i have seen they are running a fibre optic cable into the house and connecting it to a converter which is feeding the sky box.
is there a converter available which i can buy on my own?
i dont want to pay for sky for fta channels :-(

gashead

Are you sure. Sky don't run fibre cables, they are a satellite service provider. UPC and other cable/telco companies run fibre but they don't normally have free channels anyway. Your post is very confusing, sorry.

pelisor2000

gashead wrote: »

Are you sure. Sky don't run fibre cables, they are a satellite service provider. UPC and other cable/telco companies run fibre but they don't normally have free channels anyway. Your post is very confusing, sorry.

optic fibre, from the dish to the multiswich,,,from the multiswich to a sky box i think it coaxial cable:)

gashead

pelisor2000 wrote: »

optic fibre, from the dish to the multiswich,,,from the multiswich to a sky box i think it coaxial cable:)

Do they run fibre from the LNB? I thought LNB's were just a type of down converter for RF. Fibre needs a laser and optical receiver. I think the OP is mistaken

pelisor2000

gashead wrote: »

Do they run fibre from the LNB? I thought LNB's were just a type of down converter for RF. Fibre needs a laser and optical receiver. I think the OP is mistaken

http://www.tele-satellit-svenska.com/TELE-satellite-0909/sve/gi.pdf

gashead

Nice one. Very interesting. Hadn't heard of that before but are you aware of any Irish companies using this kit. Would like to see it in action...

bittihuduga

they r doing this at the parkwest apartments in dublin.
any idea about the converter or how to get fta with this connection?

paulm17781

I just had this system installed yesterday. I was told they also run fibre to each apartment and put a converter in the apartments. I may have to pay for Sky for a year to get FTA!

homelink

bittihuduga wrote: »

hi
sky has fibre optic running in our apartment building.
i cannot just connect my box for fta channels because of this.
i have seen they are running a fibre optic cable into the house and connecting it to a converter which is feeding the sky box.
is there a converter available which i can buy on my own?
i dont want to pay for sky for fta channels :-(

So you just want to steal from sky?

Ronan|Raven

How is wanting to receive the FTA channels that broadcast on 28east, looking to steal from sky?

bittihuduga

do you know fta channels are free and not stealing :-)

The Cush

homelink wrote: »

So you just want to steal from sky?

Free-to-air channels broadcast from an EU state can be legally received in any other EU states thru satellite or terrestrial overspill (AVMS Directive), encrypted and pay tv services are covered under a diffferent Directive and Act.

Some articles on Fibre Optic satellite distribution
Innovation + Communication = INVACOM GLOBAL - TELE-satellite 02-03/2008
First of its Kind: Global Invacom Optical LNB - TELE-satellite 04-05/2008
Giving co-ax the axe - What Satellite Apr 2009
Global Invacom Optical LNB, The Satellite Reception Revolution - TELE-satellite 08-09/2009
Global Invacom OptiScan, - The First Signal Analyzer with an Optical Input - TELE-satellite 12-01/2010
Optical LNB with a Flange Now for Really Large Antennas (p.54) & Global Invacom goes Fibre DTT (p.80) - TELE-satellite 04-05/2010

Fibre satellite distribution - Wikipedia

ESA Distribution of DBS Signals by Fibre Optic
GI FibreMDU Optical LNB
GI FibreMDU Converters
FibreIRS Gateway Termination Unit (GTU)
Triax Fibre Optic Solutions

And in the shops
http://www.sateuropa.co.uk/overview.asp?catid=12&subcat=66
http://www.satelliteonline.co.uk/fibre_optic_satellite_distributi.htm
http://www.satshop.tv/fibre-optic-systems
http://www.southernsat.co.uk/cart/index.php?l=product_list&c=89
http://www.scantecshop.co.uk/fibre-optic-products/cat_26.html

bittihuduga

those converters are quite expensive (160euros minimum)
i wonder how sky can put these in each house..may be they are using something 'made in china' product which could be bit cheap

oneweb

OT I know but have to admit I was going to laugh at OP for thinking there was such a thing as a fibre optic lnb. Having read the doc posted by pelisor I have to say I'm very impressed by the technology!

Do the Sky boxes actually use a co-ax input or fibre optic?

bittihuduga

oneweb wrote: »

OT I know but have to admit I was going to laugh at OP for thinking there was such a thing as a fibre optic lnb. Having read the doc posted by pelisor I have to say I'm very impressed by the technology!

Do the Sky boxes actually use a co-ax input or fibre optic?

there is a converter sitting in between the skybox and the optical cable. it converts optical input to coaxial and this coaxial is fed into sky box

homelink

Ronan|Raven wrote: »

How is wanting to receive the FTA channels that broadcast on 28east, looking to steal from sky?

Because the shared dish & associated cabling have been supplied by sky.There is no such thing as free FTA, you need to buy equipment to view it. If you want to watch fta tv in an apartment complex then you should lobby the Management Company to provide this service for you .

sean2012

Video to Fiber Media Converter converts base band video signals from coaxial cable to a single strand of 62.5 Micron multimode fiber optic cable.

http://www.fiberinstrumentsales.com/products/network-equipment_signamax-video-to-fiber-media-converters.html

this is both transmitter and receiver you just need a receiver think they work as a pair

or this one

http://www.fiberinstrumentsales.com/products/search-by-industry_fis-fiber-optic-receivers.html

i dont know if this one has a coax video output looks like it could ask them $125 for multimode fibre

zg3409

sean2012 wrote: »

Video to Fiber Media Converter converts base band video signals from coaxial cable to a single strand of 62.5 Micron multimode fiber optic cable.

http://www.fiberinstrumentsales.com/products/network-equipment_signamax-video-to-fiber-media-converters.html

this is both transmitter and receiver you just need a receiver think they work as a pair

or this one

http://www.fiberinstrumentsales.com/products/search-by-industry_fis-fiber-optic-receivers.html

i dont know if this one has a coax video output looks like it could ask them $125 for multimode fibre

The units you refer to are not what the person needs. The above items are for extending ONE VIDEO CAMERA over a long fibre cable and NOT all Sky channels. The 0 to 12Mhz is the Key. Sky is 950-2150 and 4 bands.

So the above linked item will not work for the original poster.

What is needed is a receiver compatable with what is installed in other apartments. Genrally they are specific to UK/Europe TV systems.

sean2012

"The units you refer to are not what the person needs. The above items are for extending ONE VIDEO CAMERA over a long fibre cable and NOT all Sky channels."

the Video To Fiber Media Converter is simpley a method of connecting to the dish and box, there is different signals from the the dish to the box for different channels, it doesent stream all channels at once hence the delay in changing Channels

"The 0 to 12Mhz is the Key. Sky is 950-2150 and 4 bands."

The Wideband DC to 12 MHz only applys to the fibre section not the signal from the dish i think, this might work for a single band feed from the lnb with spliters, one channel in other rooms

the media converter would work if there's service in the fibre, cat5 ip over tv to more outlets
the item below is probably what hes looking for

sean2012

http://www.satshop.tv/Global-Invacom-FibreMDU-Virtual-Quad-Optical-Converter

Doodoo

Sorry for dragging this up but I'm looking at cancelling sky and going with fta. Will sky leave me with the fibre co-ax converter which I have for a few years and will it just mean a straight swap of sat boxes or do you need a subscription from sky? I'm coming off a shared dish in an apartment block.

lawred2

oneweb wrote: »

OT I know but have to admit I was going to laugh at OP for thinking there was such a thing as a fibre optic lnb. Having read the doc posted by pelisor I have to say I'm very impressed by the technology!

Do the Sky boxes actually use a co-ax input or fibre optic?

Have it in our estate. Each house gets a fibre feed and a converter gives you 4 coaxial feeds out.

Takes power from the sat box too in the same was as the LNB would.

lawred2

Doodoo wrote: »

Sorry for dragging this up but I'm looking at cancelling sky and going with fta. Will sky leave me with the fibre co-ax converter which I have for a few years and will it just mean a straight swap of sat boxes or do you need a subscription from sky? I'm coming off a shared dish in an apartment block.

They will leave the converter. Plug in a free sat/linux sat receiver and away you go.

We have no sky boxes in our house.

zg3409

The main thing to beware is via satellite, without Sky, you do not get any Irish TV channels. I would recommend testing the new box before cancelling to be sure the household is happy with the limitations.

The best 'fta' box nearly equivalent to Sky is a "FreeSAT" branded recording box such as the humax HDR11005
Some of these boxes offer "catch up" internet based on demand, but much of that does not work in Ireland due to regional restrictions. Older recording boxes without the catch up feature may be better value and work nearly as good. You get what you pay for.