Autistic child playing online poker

swe_fi

Let me first of all say, I find autistics absolutely fascinating.

So, lets pretend you were working in a school, as a teacher, teaching an autistic child. One day as this child and you are playing with matches, you drop the entire box on the floor...."39!" - You count them, yes, 39 exactly.

Suddenly you remember something about Tom Cruise...Dustin Hoffman...and you think "I could use this for something..."

So instead of teaching this child about...eh...other stuff...You log in to your online poker account and during the hours this child is in your care, he/she wins a lot of money on online poker (because we have all seen that is how it works in rain man)

First of all, would you / could you tell anyone? Would you feel guilty spending the money?

Would it be very wrong, even if lets say you accumulated the money and put it in to a fund that you gave to the school/child later in life (with interest)?

gamgsam

Go for it, work em like a horse

epgc3fyqirnbsx

As long as it all went to a fund for the kid then absolutely! Engage in online gambling at your own peril
But even accumulating the slightest profit would be so immoral and wrong that it would define you as the lowest of the low

artanevilla

Go for it. Capitalism ftw.

consultech

Poker (let's say Holdem to be more specific) doesn't work like that. It's not all maths as some believe. Yes there's odds and outs etc to consider, but that's about the extent of it. You don't actually need to be a mathematical genius by any stretch to be good at it. You basically do the same 10-20 calculations over and over.

The reason you haven't heard of things like this being more prevalent is because "autistic" intelligence isn't really applicable because it's usually very focused on one aspect of traditional intelligence. Poker requires you to have a range of intelligences. Probably the most important trait in poker is observation, and predicting future behaviour of players based on retrospective information about actions and betting patterns etc. That's all you really have to go by (apart from live poker "tells").

starbelgrade

swe_fi wrote: »

Let me first of all say, I find autistics absolutely fascinating.

So, lets pretend you were working in a school, as a teacher, teaching an autistic child. One day as this child and you are playing with matches, you drop the entire box on the floor...."39!" - You count them, yes, 39 exactly.

Suddenly you remember something about Tom Cruise...Dustin Hoffman...and you think "I could use this for something..."

So instead of teaching this child about...eh...other stuff...You log in to your online poker account and during the hours this child is in your care, he/she wins a lot of money on online poker (because we have all seen that is how it works in rain man)

Not all autistic people have traits as seen in "Rainman". An estimated 0.5% to 10% of individuals with ASD show unusual abilities, ranging from splinter skills such as the memorization of trivia to the extraordinarily rare talents of prodigious autistic savants.

So whilst it is not impossible that a character like "Rainman" exists, it is highly unusual & also highly unlikely that he/ she would possess the range of skills necessary to be a succesful poker player.

If you really are that fascinated by autism, perhaps you should read up on the subject a bit more instead of basing all your opinions on a fictional movie character & making daft assumptions based on a film.

Teferi

swe_fi wrote: »

I find autistics absolutely fascinating.

You have Aspergers.

swe_fi

starbelgrade wrote: »

If you really are that fascinated by autism, perhaps you should read up on the subject a bit more instead of basing all your opinions on a fictional movie character & making daft assumptions based on a film.

Is it ok if I do both?

m@cc@

swe_fi wrote: »

Let me first of all say, I find autistics absolutely fascinating.

You should probably do a bit more research as you've shown breathtaking ignorance of the condition.

Sabre0001

Why are you playing with matches with a child?



Monster :mad:

starbelgrade

swe_fi wrote: »

Is it ok if I do both?

When you grow up you can be whatever you want to be. The world is your oyster.

strobe

Eric Scruffy Sunfish wrote: »

As long as it all went to a fund for the kid then absolutely! Engage in online gambling at your own peril
But even accumulating the slightest profit would be so immoral and wrong that it would define you as the lowest of the low

I dunno, you can't eat good intentions. What would be wrong with giving the kid a fund that would set them up for life and pocketing a few quid to set you up at the same time? The kid ain't gonna decide to **** vegas over on their own. Win - win?

Benny Lava

So, instead of teaching a child you're making money???



Sounds good to me!

ROTTING CHRIST

consultech wrote: »

Poker (let's say Holdem to be more specific) doesn't work like that. It's not all maths as some believe. Yes there's odds and outs etc to consider, but that's about the extent of it. You don't actually need to be a mathematical genius by any stretch to be good at it. You basically do the same 10-20 calculations over and over.

The reason you haven't heard of things like this being more prevalent is because "autistic" intelligence isn't really applicable because it's usually very focused on one aspect of traditional intelligence. Poker requires you to have a range of intelligences. Probably the most important trait in poker is observation, and predicting future behaviour of players based on retrospective information about actions and betting patterns etc. That's all you really have to go by (apart from live poker "tells").

Exactly, and any mathematical advantage an autistic person would have playing online poker is already done (and even better) by programs like hold'em manager that mine data and provide statistics/probabilities/etc. A computer can perform calculations faster than any human (autistic or not) in the world.

strobe

starbelgrade wrote: »

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So whilst it is not impossible that a character like "Rainman" exists, it is highly unusual & also highly unlikely that he/ she would possess the range of skills necessary to be a succesful poker player.

Completely impossible, I would say. A big part of face to face poker is judging peoples emotional reactions. Something autistics obviously do not do.

recylingbin

I'd love to ride Vicky Coren. I bet she's freaky in the scratcher.

Yillan

strobe wrote: »

Completely impossible, I would say. A big part of face to face poker is judging peoples emotional reactions. Something autistics obviously do not do.

But then again no one said anything about face to face poker...

I know where you're coming from though. Some other thread probably

strobe

Yillan wrote: »

But then again no one said anything about face to face poker...

I know where you're coming from though. Some other thread probably

Blast!!! It says "online" right there in the thread title doesn't it? Well, you've made me look like quite the idiot once again AH.... I know it's not a rare thing to do, but still....nicely played, After Hours...Nicely played.

up for anything

Considering the amount of hard work and stress that goes into raising a child with autism, I would be more than cross if they lost the chance to learn even one teeny social skill in order for them or the OP to amass a fortune.

Blackjack is your game if you own autism-boy.

derfderf

Deleted User wrote: »

Blackjack is your game if you own autism-boy.

+1. Not sure about normal poker but in holdem the deck is shuffled after every hand. Online it's just random. Only maths involved is how good ur first 2 cards are. U get 2 kings and think i've a great chance of winning, rainman would tell you you have a 77% chance. Probably make more money takin bets on whether the kid can count the matches tbh.

Hank Scorpio

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Eastgate

^ That chap has autism

Nevermind_

first off it was Blackjack that was used in rainman not poker.
Secondly Rainman was able to win because he counted cards and calculated the probability of what the next card would be.
Thirdly this can not be done online as it is totally random without a fixed number of decks etc.
The only place this might be some benefit is in a real casino where you know the number of decks of cards used in the shuffle. After that its just card counting and be warned if you get caught you will be banned from casino's and blacklisted.(they have very sophisticated facial recognition software).

In short this whole thread is pointless

Kersh

I know this is AH but FFS,

Have you ever lived with or been around a child that suffers from Autism? Its very very stressful, and frustrating, and disheartening a lot of the time, and the bigger they get the more worrying it becomes when they act out. Do yourself a favour and read up on it a bit. Or go live with my Sis for a while, and see firsthand exactly how unlikely it would be to get a child to sit and do "his trick" :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

No amount of money earned will help the child 'get better' or anything. Autistic children need specialist education. Constantly. Its for life.

Im off to start a thread about using some little black kid to be a servant, to see how long it lasts.....................

Let me 1st of all say that I find skin colour fascinating . .

moonpurple

or what if you lined up special needs kids in wheelchairs and let them roll down a hill and took bets, what fun we would have poking fun at vulnerable special needs children...or maybe sell them to circuses..or
hey add your own suggestions

Reincarbonated

swe_fi wrote: »

Let me first of all say, I find autistics absolutely fascinating.

So, lets pretend you were working in a school, as a teacher, teaching an autistic child. One day as this child and you are playing with matches, you drop the entire box on the floor...."39!" - You count them, yes, 39 exactly.

Suddenly you remember something about Tom Cruise...Dustin Hoffman...and you think "I could use this for something..."

So instead of teaching this child about...eh...other stuff...You log in to your online poker account and during the hours this child is in your care, he/she wins a lot of money on online poker (because we have all seen that is how it works in rain man)

First of all, would you / could you tell anyone? Would you feel guilty spending the money?

Would it be very wrong, even if lets say you accumulated the money and put it in to a fund that you gave to the school/child later in life (with interest)?

I recently read the book "The Man Who Mistook His Wife for a Hat", which describes the incident this scene was taken from. You should check it out if you're interested, it's a book of true, but amazing stories.
The story it's in is called "the twins" and is near the end.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Man_Who_Mistook_His_Wife_for_a_Hat

orourkeda

send him over here. I need help. Were you playing pot limit omaha by any chance

NothingMan

Autistic kids rock!

sbsquarepants

This is the most ridiculous thing i've heard in years!
Rainman couldn't play poker any better than he could play rugby.
I've two word for someone like you..........

Black Jack:D

Jesus Wept

consultech wrote: »

Poker (let's say Holdem to be more specific) doesn't work like that. It's not all maths as some believe. Yes there's odds and outs etc to consider, but that's about the extent of it. You don't actually need to be a mathematical genius by any stretch to be good at it. You basically do the same 10-20 calculations over and over.

The reason you haven't heard of things like this being more prevalent is because "autistic" intelligence isn't really applicable because it's usually very focused on one aspect of traditional intelligence. Poker requires you to have a range of intelligences. Probably the most important trait in poker is observation, and predicting future behaviour of players based on retrospective information about actions and betting patterns etc. That's all you really have to go by (apart from live poker "tells").

They could probably make it as a rakeback pro.

dr.bollocko

I think we'll leave it at that on this particular issue.