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How To start a local paper ??

  • 09-05-2010 9:11pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 273 ✭✭


    I was thinking of starting up a local paper.Theres already 2 papers in the area.But in both papers there is a lack off sport coverage and i think i would have a big market.I've heard countless people complain about it so its only a matter off time before ones setup.

    What i want to know is how would i go about doing this ? How much money would i need etc ??

    Any help would be greatly appreciated :pac:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,816 ✭✭✭antoinolachtnai


    Really, do the numbers. How much do you think you can get in in ads every year. Then subtract the minimum amount it would require to do the standard of editorial you need and to actually print and distribute. You will probably get a negative number.

    If you really think it's a good idea, best thing would be to buy one of the existing papers. You would probably get one or other for a good price.

    The newspaper business is generally considered to be in terminal decline.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 586 ✭✭✭conolan


    Run a mile. Advertising is very hard to sell and you have two experienced competitors. Unless you are wealthy and foolish with a big ego to satisfy stay away.

    Or buy an existing, at least you might suffer less pain as your money drains away.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,257 ✭✭✭blue4ever


    massive cost to entry in print publishing - printing, distribution, production etc etc. It's not something you'd do with a huge amount of research


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,850 ✭✭✭Cianos


    You could start off by doing a dedicated sports paper if you feel there is a definite gap and a want for it. That'd mean you have a clear cut position, so you won't actually be competing with the other two papers. It'd also mean lower costs as you wouldn't have to bother with all the non sports news. But as others say it'd have to moreso be driven by a passion rather than the prospect of big business.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,737 ✭✭✭MidlandsM


    Lots of new newspaper groups folded recently, like the voice newspaper group set up by an ex sunday world guy - you'd be nutz to think you'll win out there in a depressed market with no newspaper business experience.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 273 ✭✭MiciG91


    Cianos wrote: »
    You could start off by doing a dedicated sports paper if you feel there is a definite gap and a want for it. That'd mean you have a clear cut position, so you won't actually be competing with the other two papers. It'd also mean lower costs as you wouldn't have to bother with all the non sports news. But as others say it'd have to moreso be driven by a passion rather than the prospect of big business.
    Exactly the other papers sell around 15,000 copies a week and there is a gap in the market.High entry costs and lack off experience are all thats holding me back.

    I'm going to do a bit more research before i do anything but there is a gap in the market and i'm very passionate about it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,257 ✭✭✭blue4ever


    how many papers compete in that local market?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 273 ✭✭MiciG91


    blue4ever wrote: »
    how many papers compete in that local market?

    2 but there is very little sports coverage.And sports is huge in the area i would be looking to sell as much as the other two papers.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,737 ✭✭✭MidlandsM


    MiciG91 wrote: »
    2 but there is very little sports coverage.And sports is huge in the area i would be looking to sell as much as the other two papers.

    I doubt you would as a sports paper is going to appeal to a male demo (more or less), therefore greatly reducing you're available market immediately.

    Also, a massive factor in local media is Heritage. People are slow to take a new paper to their heart and purchase it every week.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,743 ✭✭✭MrMatisse


    Use this software here

    http://www.newspaperclub.co.uk/

    If you can make a 12 page paper with one page of classified ads and get rid of a few copies then go from there.

    And good luck, To me it seems like a long road, but if you reckon you could do it then give the above a go at least.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 293 ✭✭Penisland


    MiciG91 wrote: »
    2 but there is very little sports coverage.And sports is huge in the area i would be looking to sell as much as the other two papers.


    Why sell something when you can give it away for free..............


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 674 ✭✭✭Southsider1


    Most of the Johnson Press titles are for sale (and have been for quite a while!?) so they may be worth talking to. If you intend going from scratch you can get printed by the INM at their new print works in Citywest. And I'm sure some of the Provincials will print for you too. As stated above you're pociking a very tough business to get into. Many well established companies with respected titles are struggling badly. Also ask yourself why your local papers aren't doing greater sports coverage....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,267 ✭✭✭DubTony


    My personal advice is to stay away from this business. The newsprint business is dying slowly, but it's definitely dying. Sports news is primarily obtained from the TV and the internet these days and most people search specifically for the information they want. I'd also believe that a local sports newspaper will not carry enough news or have enough interest to make it attractive to advertisers.

    But hey, that's just my opinion. I was wrong about something else once. :D

    If you do go ahead with it, expect to spend a (not so) small fortune on marketing and distribution. Just dumping 30 or 40 copies into every shop in the area won't cut it I'm afraid.

    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/finance/2010/0325/1224267005599.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,267 ✭✭✭DubTony


    My personal advice is to stay away from this business. The newsprint business is dying slowly, but it's definitely dying. Sports news is primarily obtained from the TV and the internet these days and most people search specifically for the information they want. I'd also believe that a local sports newspaper will not carry enough news or have enough interest to make it attractive to advertisers.

    But hey, that's just my opinion. I was wrong about something else once. :D

    If you do go ahead with it, expect to spend a (not so) small fortune on marketing and distribution. Just dumping 30 or 40 copies into every shop in the area won't cut it I'm afraid.

    INM sells UK titles for £1
    from The Irish Times


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,884 ✭✭✭IRE60


    Most of the Johnson Press titles are for sale (and have been for quite a while!?) so they may be worth talking to. If you intend going from scratch you can get printed by the INM at their new print works in Citywest. And I'm sure some of the Provincials will print for you too. As stated above you're pociking a very tough business to get into. Many well established companies with respected titles are struggling badly. Also ask yourself why your local papers aren't doing greater sports coverage....

    were! Decided to hold on to them as they didn't get the asking price or anything near it. Spend nearly €1m on the process of trying to sell them


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