Son keeps being searched

maiden

Hiya, my son who is 15 is constantly been stopped and searched by the gardai. He does hang around with a bad crowd (trying to put a stop to it) but he has never been found with anything. He even gets stopped at lunchtime in his uniform.

Has he any rights over this? Im really getting p'eed off about it now, in the beginning i thought it was no harm but its so frequent, its a joke.

I had a foster son in my care who had serious case against a garda ( garda caught on tape beating him up), my fs dropped the case because we were advised very strongly to do so. My fs has since left but now my own son is being harrassed, any advice please?

ldxo15wus6fpgm

Strangely enough I was wondering about a hypothetical situation very like this only this morning! I can't help though I'm afraid.

May I ask why he was told to drop the case?

dlofnep

Get your son to stop hanging around with shady characters and it will stop. You can write a complaint to the Ombudsman if you feel it's warranted: http://www.gardaombudsman.ie/

Vladidim

maiden wrote: »

Hiya, my son who is 15 is constantly been stopped and searched by the gardai. He does hang around with a bad crowd (trying to put a stop to it) but he has never been found with anything. He even gets stopped at lunchtime in his uniform.

Has he any rights over this? Im really getting p'eed off about it now, in the beginning i thought it was no harm but its so frequent, its a joke.

I had a foster son in my care who had serious case against a garda ( garda caught on tape beating him up), my fs dropped the case because we were advised very strongly to do so. My fs has since left but now my own son is being harrassed, any advice please?

I was about to post some advice, but then came to the realisation that your son is basically hanging around with scum bags. You said so yourself in the OP.

lucy2010

Very similar situation recently with nephew. genuinely a really good kid, barely goes out with friends, occasionly goes to a friends house & goes out on bikes in a nearby field.

few months ago same thing being searched every second day. This started about a month after his nan's house was broken into - the thief fits the exact same discription . The problem is he now has a serious attitude towards the law. We are all afraid a good kid will be turned bad by this. He was never rude to the guards when they stopped him just the same guard repeatedly stopping him.

Anyway was out cycling & was done for trespass... The field is a public right of way & has been for 50 years. Parents called into station for his official caution with liason officer. As the guard was reading the file infront of them he nearly choked . with all thats going on out there drugs, robberies , murders & this little kid being cautiuoned for this. He told them to head off & he would contact them. He called them back apologiesed for all the invconvenience & explained the young officer was " a bit wet behind the ears" & lacked experience. Parents explained their concerns that this good kids was now anti the system. He has not been stopped since.

Anyway advice would be contact the local liason officer & put your case forward. They felt they were listened to & situation was rectified.

the_syco

maiden wrote: »

He does hang around with a bad crowd

The rest of the "bad crowd" may already have some sort of a record...

Dannyboy1987

He has given them a reason to , must of got cheeky with them or something. they don't just pick on random people

PCPhoto

Dannyboy1987 wrote: »

He has given them a reason to , must of got cheeky with them or something. they don't just pick on random people

his association with "scum" is reason enough.

the other guys must have previous history with the gardai ...or else it would just be random searches - not as frequent as you claim.

have you witnessed him being searched - or just from whet he told you.

eagle_&_bear

Why not just go speak to the Inspector in the station or at least the Sgt and sit down and talk about it.

Instead of wondering if, where and how etc, just go and deal with it. Make an appointment and get it sorted- whatever the reason is, you'll have a better picture after the meeting and it'll settle your mind.

The garda are accommodating on this point!

Just make appointment. But you would want to make sure you're being told the complete truth

Hooch

eagle_&_bear wrote: »

Why not just go speak to the Inspector in the station or at least the Sgt and sit down and talk about it.

Instead of wondering if, where and how etc, just go and deal with it. Make an appointment and get it sorted- whatever the reason is, you'll have a better picture after the meeting and it'll settle your mind.

The garda are accommodating on this point!

Just make appointment. But you would want to make sure you're being told the complete truth

+ 1 to that.....

Youths are generally house angels and street devils.

If he is hanging out with the wrong crowd then im afraid the legislation allows for him to be searched as the reasonable grounds is that he is an associate of these "wrong crowd".

Get him away from them if possible. As above posted....contact the local station and make sure he isnt in trouble.....AGS is accomidating to family in this regard. Anything that can be done will be done to steer a lad on the right path....every member has done it.

maiden

Yeah i will make an appt, thanks for the advice.

Yes he is hanging with a bad crowd but as i stated im doing my best to put a stop to it. Thats what i was asking, can the guards stop him so frequently? The answer is obviously yes so thanks for letting me know.

It was the guards to strongly suggested that we drop the case, they came to my house and said my FS would be harrassed for the rest of his life if we continued with the case, if he ever got a car he would be constantly stopped and they would make his life miserable and do their best to see him jailed for anything possible.

maiden

Oh and yes he is being searched as often as i said, and i dont just take his word for it!! He is a teenager after all!

xonet

It was the guards to strongly suggested that we drop the case, they came to my house and said my FS would be harrassed for the rest of his life if we continued with the case, if he ever got a car he would be constantly stopped and they would make his life miserable and do their best to see him jailed for anything possible.

So you and your FS were basically blackmailed into dropping the charge. No wonder some members of the GS can get away with things!

shaneybaby

xonet wrote: »

No wonder some members of the GS can get away with things!

Just curious, what does this bit refer to?

MagicSean

Your son is obviously frequenting problem areas with the people who cause the problems. You say you're trying to put a stop to this but what are you doing exactly? I promise you if you allow him to continue it is only a matter of time before he is pulled into their world and arrested or issued an asbo. There's no point blaming the Gardaí for doing their job.

Anti-social behaviour is one of the biggest problems in this country and it is only going to get worse with the summer holidays. It's time you took a harder stance with him if you don't want him to slide to criminality.

If you really have a problem with the legality of him being searched you should write to the local inspector or super or make a complaint to the ombudsman. You might also try contacting the local juvenile liason officer to ask their advice. They might be willing to have a talk with him, rather than see him in an official meeting in a few months.