Lazy Atheism

C_Dawg

Hi guys,

Hope this thread isn't against the rules on this forum.

I would consider myself to be an atheist. My problem is that I'm not really passionate about being an atheist. It's like football or politics to me: it's something that I could learn more about but I'm just not arsed. When Richard Dawkins was in South Park I had to google him to find out what the joke was and that's the extent of my research on the whole subject of Atheism.

From threads on here I can see a lot of intelligent people discussing their own viewpoints on subjects and I truly think that's great.

Is it ok to be lazy when it comes to atheism?

Ickle Magoo

Of course! If people wish to pursue an interest in theology or anti-theistic philosophies in order to counter any theistic arguments then that's well above and beyond the call of duty, the only thing you have to do to be considered an atheist is lack belief in a god. :cool:

ColmDawson

Yes!

But now that you've posted in A&A, I predict that you will be sucked in...

C_Dawg

ColmDawson wrote: »

Yes!

But now that you've posted in A&A, I predict that you will be sucked in...

Nooooooo!

sonicthebadger*

Everyone is a lazy Athiest. It takes a lot of effort to believe. I haven't the energy for congnitive dissonance.

lady of the flowers

im an atheist and wish i wasnt.....but just cant change back... its fine to be lazy...many are very very lazy about their religious beliefs

Galvasean

Contrary to what some would have you believe, to be an atheist you don't have to read Dawkins, hate religion, look for errors in the Bible, plus a thousand other things.
You just don't believe in God(s). Simple as that. Anything extra is up to you.

Zillah

You are the future.


Let's be honest: Most people aren't particularily motivated towards ensuring that their worldview is intellectually and philosophically tenable. Right now there are literally billions of people lazily obeying the dictates of narrow minded old men and archaic books. If those same people were lazily disinterested in the entire concept of God I'd be happy.

Teferi

When I read the title of this thread I just thought "You mean Agnostic?" :pac:

GLaDOS

Zillah wrote: »

You are the future.

If it keeps up like this we'll have lapsed atheists

Ickle Magoo

Teferi wrote: »

When I read the title of this thread I just thought "You mean Agnostic?" :pac:

ouch!

:pac:

Daftendirekt

Yup, being lazy with your atheism is fine. Anything more and you're working too hard.

strobe

ColmDawson wrote: »

Yes!

But now that you've posted in A&A, I predict that you will be sucked in...

Lmao. It's so true I'm afraid. I just wanted to find out if that Book Of Eli film was any good, did a boards search for it and the first result I got was here. I didn't even know there was a Religion and Spirituality section on boards before, let alone an A&A forum........now about 50% of my posts end up in here. It's a serious problem.

strobe

lady of the flowers wrote: »

im an atheist and wish i wasnt.....but just cant change back... its fine to be lazy...many are very very lazy about their religious beliefs

I've heard a few people say that now Lady. That they wish they could go back to believing, if it's not prying would you mind saying why exactly?








{maybe I'll throw a new thread up for this actually}

Daftendirekt

strobe wrote: »

Lmao. It's so true I'm afraid. I just wanted to find out if that Book Of Eli film was any good, did a boards search for it and the first result I got was here. I didn't even know there was a Religion and Spirituality section on boards before, let alone an A&A forum........now about 50% of my posts end up in here. It's a serious problem.

Heh. Sort of similar here. If I remember correctly, I joined Boards in the first place to find info on the Lisbon Treaty.


I never left

lady of the flowers

not prying at all. I, personally, was happier when I believed in god. I suppose there is also the fact that I have not found a philosophy to replace the beliefs I previously held, and recognise the danger that simply accepting scientific doctrine can be as dangerous as simply accepting religious doctrine...I've been praying for answers for ages now and haven't found any

strobe

Do you really need a philosophy? At least one that someone else has written down before hand and advised people to follow? I mean my philosophy on life is basically: "Try to make the people around you happy whenever you can and try not to make other people unhappy". That seems to serve me pretty well.

As for "scientific doctrine", I'm not really sure what you mean by that. Science isn't a doctrine, per say, it is just a method used to try and find out how the physical world works. "If you heat water to 100C at sea level it will turn to gas". Science is just different variations of that sentence. I'm curious as to why you would feel there is danger in accepting that 'doctrine'?

Daftendirekt

lady of the flowers wrote: »

not prying at all. I, personally, was happier when I believed in god. I suppose there is also the fact that I have not found a philosophy to replace the beliefs I previously held...

What about Humanism?

pH

not prying at all. I, personally, was happier when I believed in god. I suppose there is also the fact that I have not found a philosophy to replace the beliefs I previously held, and recognise the danger that simply accepting scientific doctrine can be as dangerous as simply accepting religious doctrine...I've been praying for answers for ages now and haven't found any

Well there's your problem.

strobe wrote: »

As for "scientific doctrine", I'm not really sure what you mean by that. Science isn't a doctrine, per say, it is just a method used to try and find out how the physical world works. "If you heat water to 100C at sea level it will turn to gas". Science is just different variations of that sentence. I'm curious as to why you would feel there is danger in accepting that 'doctrine'?

Because we all know that once that water is at 100C, the next thing any scientist wants to do is drop a baby in, that or clone himself using GM bacteria from a superweapon designed using stem cells.

Dades

Daftendirekt wrote: »

If I remember correctly, I joined Boards in the first place to find info on the Lisbon Treaty.

Finally, a justification for our two Lisbon Treaty threads.

OP, we had a poster (since banned) join us a month or so ago lambasting users for our lack of "action". The point was made to him that people can be as interested or disinterested in religion etc as they want. It's a free world.

afaic, the most important thing for non-religious is to tick "no religion" on next years census and encourage other apathetic people to do the same.

sonicthebadger*

lady of the flowers wrote: »

not prying at all. I, personally, was happier when I believed in god. I suppose there is also the fact that I have not found a philosophy to replace the beliefs I previously held, and recognise the danger that simply accepting scientific doctrine can be as dangerous as simply accepting religious doctrine...I've been praying for answers for ages now and haven't found any

Science is not a Religion or a belief system (unless you want to be really pedantic and claim scientists believe evidence). It is of course dangerous to simply accept what anyone tells you, including a scientist. Though asking questions of a scientist is likely to lead you to new information not greater doubt. Mostly though, what they tell you won't be instructions about what to do with your day or in the privacy of your own bedroom, it'll just be facts, what to do with those facts is up to you.

robindch

Not that I'm going to start being a grammar National Socialist in my dotage, but the primary meaning of "disinterested" is "unbiassed", ie lacking interest in one outcome over another.

One instance of it being used to mean "uninterested" in 24 hours is ok, but two instances takes the biscuit!

/unnecessary message ends.

Dades

Your interjection disinterests me. :pac:

Mark Hamill

lady of the flowers wrote: »

not prying at all. I, personally, was happier when I believed in god. I suppose there is also the fact that I have not found a philosophy to replace the beliefs I previously held, and recognise the danger that simply accepting scientific doctrine can be as dangerous as simply accepting religious doctrine...

Science "doctrine" is, by its very nature, not something you simply "accept". To be scientific is to constantly call for evidence and testing and proof for any claim, the exact opposite of simply accepting a position.

lady of the flowers wrote: »

I've been praying for answers for ages now and haven't found any

Praying to what exactly?
Maybe devising your own philosophy will be more efficient then expecting one to fall in your lap?

Stercus Accidit

Nothing wrong with lazy atheism, its lazy faith that props up religious institutions.

goingpostal

I was going to share my opinion on this topic, but am such a lazy atheist I forgot what I was going to say.....

bnt

I think that part of this "laziness" is a side effect of the relief we feel after losing our existential guilt. We have no reason to feel guilty for existing. We don't have a debt to repay. After you've spent years bearing a load, it's not laziness to enjoy the relief you feel after you drop the load.

Forest Master

I don't get it. If you don't believe in God or religion, then you're an atheist. Job done. It doesn't require effort or further studies.

I'm an atheist - it requires absolutely zero time each week to maintain my atheism.

robindch

Forest Master wrote: »

I'm an atheist - it requires absolutely zero time each week to maintain my atheism.

Stay away from this forum then

sonicthebadger*

robindch wrote: »

Stay away from this forum then

Harsh! :eek:

robindch

sonicthebadger* wrote: »

Harsh!

But true

sonicthebadger*

robindch wrote: »

But true

This forum doesn't convince me to be an Atheist or strengthen my lack of faith though. It's just a place full of fun stuff and giggles (and sometimes insults and a good verbal barney).

redfacedbear

The vast majority of my friends and family are Atheist - I'm the only one who feels a need to come here and actually discuss it to any great degree. I thought that I was the oddity but it now seems that they're just lazy - great :pac:

GLaDOS

sonicthebadger* wrote: »

This forum doesn't convince me to be an Atheist or strengthen my lack of faith though. It's just a place full of fun stuff and giggles (and sometimes insults and a good verbal barney).

My original attraction to this forum was the religious humour thread

Petrovia

redfacedbear wrote: »

The vast majority of my friends and family are Atheist - I'm the only one who feels a need to come here and actually discuss it to any great degree. I thought that I was the oddity but it now seems that they're just lazy - great :pac:

Same goes for me... I quite like the term lazy atheist though. For some reason it invokes images of a bunch of atheists ending up in heaven, looking at themselves and their surroundings with mild interest and going 'Oh. Oh right. Ah, well. Um. Now, where do I find my deceased mother?'.

C_Dawg

I wasn't so lazy last week as I posted off a letter to the bishop about defecting. Got confirmation of it today :cool:

iUseVi

C_Dawg wrote: »

I wasn't so lazy last week as I posted off a letter to the bishop about defecting. Got confirmation of it today :cool:

Congrats.

C_Dawg

iUseVi wrote: »

Congrats.

Cheers. Shur it's nothing really I suppose

iUseVi

C_Dawg wrote: »

Cheers. Shur it's nothing really I suppose

Meh. No biggie I suppose but it's just nice to be in that position.

Beruthiel

robindch wrote: »

Stay away from this forum then

He's right!
I may not post in here very often, (also very lazy) but I read a good portion. Before you know it, an hour has just disappeared!

Funsterdelux

I've been a lazy boy too, its been ages since I was in here.

:rolleyes: