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Bankruptcy Barrister

  • 06-05-2010 7:27pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8


    If one declared bankruptcy in the US, is that a strike against you becoming a barrister? Is a US bankruptcy considered the same as a bankruptcy order in Ireland? I ask, because in the US a bankruptcy is far less severe and does not bar you from professional organisations.

    I read in the independent that a sizeable amount of barristers were declaring bankruptcy in Ireland, but still allowed to practice on a case-by-case basis.


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  • Legal Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 4,338 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tom Young


    The answer is broadly yes. There are requirements of the King's Inns and the Bar Council which require certain elements be in place before being admitted to the BL Degree and before being called to the Bar. Then I think there is regulation of the profession by the Bar Council. Pre-entry - Yes.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8 fional


    Tom Young wrote: »
    The answer is broadly yes. There are requirements of the King's Inns and the Bar Council which require certain elements be in place before being admitted to the BL Degree and before being called to the Bar. Then I think there is regulation of the profession by the Bar Council. Pre-entry - Yes.

    Would that be a definite or near-definite disqualification then, or likely so, for entering the programme?

    The article in the independent stated that the bar council does not mandate being told, whereas the UK bar standards doesn't prohibit, but requires being told.


  • Legal Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 4,338 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tom Young


    fional wrote: »
    Would that be a definite or near-definite disqualification then, or likely so, for entering the programme?

    The article in the independent stated that the bar council does not mandate being told, whereas the UK bar standards doesn't prohibit, but requires being told.

    There are two sets of regulatory bodies for Barristers in Ireland. The Honorable Society of King's Inns and the Bar Council. The rules at the Inns have been modified by election, as have (or are about to be) the rules at the Bar Council/Law Library, concerning regulation and conduct.

    In relation to applications for entry to the BL degree and the application/memorial to be called to the Bar, there is a requirement to state a number of matters, one of which is Bankruptcy, another of which is convictions, Directorships etc.

    Being in the profession and entering the profession towards progression/practice are two different things.

    The Inns will now look more at regulating non-practicing or non-library member Barristers.

    Tom


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 64 ✭✭subrosa


    http://www.kingsinns.ie/website/prospective_students/degree/degree.htm


    Note in the specimen form
    (b) Has any bankruptcy order been made against you in any part of the world[1] or have you entered into a voluntary arrangement[2] with your creditors in any part of the world?

    [1] “Bankruptcy order” includes a bankruptcy order made pursuant to the Bankruptcy Act 1988 and any similar order made in any jurisdiction in the world.

    [2] “arrangement” means an arrangement which is pursuant to the Bankruptcy Act 1988 Part IV or any similar procedure in any part of the world.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8 fional


    Tom Young wrote: »
    There are two sets of regulatory bodies for Barristers in Ireland. The Honorable Society of King's Inns and the Bar Council. The rules at the Inns have been modified by election, as have (or are about to be) the rules at the Bar Council/Law Library, concerning regulation and conduct.

    In relation to applications for entry to the BL degree and the application/memorial to be called to the Bar, there is a requirement to state a number of matters, one of which is Bankruptcy, another of which is convictions, Directorships etc.

    Being in the profession and entering the profession towards progression/practice are two different things.

    The Inns will now look more at regulating non-practicing or non-library member Barristers.

    Tom

    Thanks Tom, I have had difficulty finding specific information on the matter...or on the whole process.


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  • Legal Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 4,338 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tom Young


    No problem. It is not the most readily available data alright, but if you just think about it there would be similar requirements around the world.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,169 ✭✭✭dats_right


    My understanding is that being a bankrupt will not necessarily preclude you from being a barrister, but you would have to disclose the surrounding circumstances and a decision would be made based thereon. Afterall a barrister, unlike a solicitor, has no access or control over clients' monies so there isn't usually a problem. However, if there had been some sort of moral turpitude or dishonesty involved in becoming bankrupt in the first place then things might not be so simple. Whatever you do make sure to be forthcoming with information and disclose all relevant information to the relevant bodies, as failure to do so is probably a bigger offence. On the other hand, one's chances of becoming a solicitor whilst an undischarged bankrupt are virtually nil.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,473 ✭✭✭✭Our man in Havana


    That said bankruptcy is relatively rare in Ireland.


  • Legal Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 4,338 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tom Young


    Bond-007 wrote: »
    That said bankruptcy is relatively rare in Ireland.

    Really! ;)


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