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Air France Black Boxes Almost Found

  • 06-05-2010 8:39am
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,239 ✭✭✭✭


    News:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8664127.stm


    The flight recorders from an Air France plane which crashed in the Atlantic last year have been located to within a 5km zone, a French official has said. But Gen Christian Baptiste told AFP that retrieving the boxes from the ocean floor might be impossible.
    All 228 people on board the flight from Rio to Paris died in the crash.
    The cause remains unknown. The plane's airspeed probes had given false readings, but officials believe other factors must also have contributed.

    Finding the boxes, which record flight data and cockpit conversations, should allow investigators to finally explain the mystery of why the plane came down.
    It appears the location zone has been traced using images obtained during the first phase of searching for the wreckage, when the flight recorders were still emitting a signal.

    Complex operation
    French government and military officials have urged caution, saying there is no guarantee the flight recorders will be found.
    "It's like trying to find a shoe box in an area the size of Paris, at a depth of 3,000m (9,800ft) and in a terrain as rugged as the Alps," French navy spokesman Hugues du Plessis d'Argentre told AFP.

    A fresh search was launched earlier this year involving US and Norwegian ships with sonar probes and robots, in what officials described as "one of the most complex undersea operations ever".
    The area covered by the high-tech vessels will now be reduced from 1,500 sq km (580 sq miles) to just 3-5 sq km, in a remote area far off the coast of Brazil.

    Air France flight AF447 from Rio de Janeiro to Paris disappeared on 1 June 2009 in stormy weather, killing all those on board.


    I thought it was gone for good. Glad it was found, it will give the poor families a bit of closure as to what happened.


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 977 ✭✭✭Abrasax


    WindSock wrote: »
    News:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8664127.stm



    I thought it was gone for good. Glad it was found, it will give the poor families a bit of closure as to what happened.

    They've been located to within a 5 kilometre radius and may not be retrievable from the ocean floor.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,219 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Located to within a radius and nigh impossible to retrieve doesn't mean "found" in my dictionary.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,822 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    "located to within a 5km zone" and found are two different things surely :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,466 ✭✭✭Forest Master


    OP didn't even bother to read his own post - FFS!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,220 ✭✭✭✭m5ex9oqjawdg2i


    Very misleading title OP.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,239 ✭✭✭✭WindSock


    Gah. I guess not. Didn't see that bit. But at least they have narrowed it down. Title changed.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,581 ✭✭✭✭TheZohanS


    It's like trying to find a shoe box in an area the size of Paris, at a depth of 3,000m (9,800ft) and in a terrain as rugged as the Alps

    So they're sending women....


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,360 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    even then... not only with the beacon being active for a short time frame after an accident... how long before the data is meant to degrade as well?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,267 ✭✭✭✭GavRedKing


    It would be interesting to find out what happened if they do find the black boxes. Although they have narrowed downthe search their is a lot of if and buts in the statment to suggest it will still be very,very difficult to locate them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,562 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    French government and military officials have urged caution, saying there is no guarantee the flight recorders will be found.

    why caution? would they not just urge them to find it faster :pac:


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,360 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    why caution? would they not just urge them to find it faster :pac:

    I think there's something lost in translation there... I believe the idea behind "Issue caution" was that they didn't want people to rush to the expectation that the black boxes will be retrieved.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,562 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    I think there's something lost in translation there... I believe the idea behind "Issue caution" was that they didn't want people to rush to the expectation that the black boxes will be retrieved.

    why, have they found that already?


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,360 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    why, have they found that already?

    Found what already?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,562 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    Found what already?

    "the expectation" of course


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,360 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    right... I think you should take note of the part where I said
    they didn't want people to rush


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,562 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    they didn't want people to rush

    indeed: no point rushing there only to have to queue


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,219 ✭✭✭PK2008


    indeed: no point rushing there only to have to queue

    Wait the Russians are involved??

    Im really confused now


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,995 ✭✭✭Sofiztikated


    Ah, so they've almost found it. Good.

    FFS, I could have told them where it was, bottom of the frigging sea. And they've spent, oh, months, deducing that?

    Frigging scienticians. They ain't no Gil Grissom or Horatio Cain, I'll tell you that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,234 ✭✭✭thetonynator


    Correct me if i'm wrong, but how can you ''almost find something''???

    You either find it or you don't - or else there is someone standing there shouting ''warmer'' when they get nearer and ''you're getting colder'' when they go further away.


    In which case the thread title should read - ''Air France getting warmer'' . . .:rolleyes: !!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,562 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    PK2008 wrote: »
    Wait the Russians are involved??

    they are organising the viewing of the expectation to the public


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,688 ✭✭✭Kasabian


    Don't Ryanair land Blackbox's miles from anywhere all the time.


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