Interclub Selection Process

Fore Iron

I'm sure this question comes up every year, but just wondering how your club selects it's players for each of the interclub comps? Is it trials, or recent scores or previous results, etc, etc, etc.

Been asked to help with the selection of our Jimmy Bruen team at the last minute after our original guy moved abroad. Kind of in the dark here!!

Russman

In our place the captain askes people to be team managers at the start of the year.
As regards selecting players its totally up to the manager, with no hard and fast rules. Generally it comes down to whoever the manager knows won't let him down.
I'm sure other clubs have different methods but I don't think there's a right way or a wrong way.

One thing I would caution against is having "trials", better to call them practise matches - we've had cases where people get upset if not picked based on "trial" performances, despite managers' reservations about their performances when they put on the club jumper.

My tuppence worth anyway.....

Mister Sifter

Depends on the team. For the likes of Junior Cup or Metro, team managers should generally get enough info about who is in form from club competition scores.

I agree that having a 'trial' is pretty pointless, but a couple of practices can't do any harm to get a bit of team bonding. The other thing i've seen done here is getting potential team players together in fourballs during weekend comps. Good for fostering a bit of team banter.

mirrorball

Fore Iron wrote: »

Is it trials, or recent scores or previous results, etc, etc, etc.

Woah, slow down with all the science there braniac. Just pick your mates like the team managers at our club do. We don't want those silly little pennants cluttering up the clubhouse walls, we'd have nowhere to hang the telly.

Jimmy Bruen is combined 17 I think with 7 being the lowest? I'd get the comp sec or handicap sec to print off some players and their stats for this year and last. Remember that the handicap is the lowest handicap that a player reached in the previous calender year.

Also, get some input from the Junior convener - there could be a few young bandits in your club. Check availability/interest of the form ponies and then pencil in some possible pairings. This might be the tricky part, particularily as the format is foursomes. What looks on paper to be Seve and Olly could easily turn out to be Faldo and Gilford. I'd talk to guys and ask who they'd like to play with. You probably won't get to please everyone but it's a start. When you've got your pairings drawn up, I'd try to get at least two games of foursomes in before the qualifying round. This will help lads get familiar with the format and guide you in the selection process.

Get a thick skin too - you'll need it for bitter non team members like me

All the best with it.

Fore Iron

Thanks guys! Mirrorball, I think you've summed up all my fears in one paragraph! It's not easy this I tell you!

At this late stage it's probably best to just look at recent results and talk the individuals to see who they would prefer to play with. The pairing can be as important as the handicaps sometimes in my experience!

Jimmy Bruen is minimum 6 and combined 17.

soundsham

try A or B

A
promise change from last years shambles
put list up for prospective players to put there names down
encourage a few juniors to try out
find out which players who did not enlist but are good enough possibly to play and try to get them to try out too
organise a few foresome competitions in your club and the odd fourball
try a few different pairings out in these weekend comps
practice once a week for 8-10 weeks prior at least
maybe organise some chipping and putting practise sessions with club pro
chop and change a few guys to really see who can play with anybody
have a few challenge games include maybe one at the course holding the competition
pick the best players & have a right good go

B
start with last years squad and add a few bar flys from the clubhouse to keep them happy and one or two quiet new players
promise guys a few trial games
maybe have one
tell the players your watching there weekend scores from april on and plan to take them into acount,
dont bother your ass checking the scores from april on
stick with the bulk of last years team
dont try out any new guys for fear they might upset the click
drop a few guys without telling them why
ask senior guys who they want to play with
drop the last of the new guys
listen to older club members/ex officers who can tell you where your going wrong and will tell you who played well there 5-10 years previously
on the day pick 4 or 5 of last years pairings
come back to clubhouse and buy a few beers and talk about how you were very unlucky to be beaten in the 1st round by the eventual winners
..................................................seems to be the drill in quite a few clubs anyway

Russman

soundsham wrote: »

try A or B

A
promise change from last years shambles
put list up for prospective players to put there names down
encourage a few juniors to try out
find out which players who did not enlist but are good enough possibly to play and try to get them to try out too
organise a few foresome competitions in your club and the odd fourball
try a few different pairings out in these weekend comps
practice once a week for 8-10 weeks prior at least
maybe organise some chipping and putting practise sessions with club pro
chop and change a few guys to really see who can play with anybody
have a few challenge games include maybe one at the course holding the competition
pick the best players & have a right good go

B
start with last years squad and add a few bar flys from the clubhouse to keep them happy and one or two quiet new players
promise guys a few trial games
maybe have one
tell the players your watching there weekend scores from april on and plan to take them into acount,
dont bother your ass checking the scores from april on
stick with the bulk of last years team
dont try out any new guys for fear they might upset the click
drop a few guys without telling them why
ask senior guys who they want to play with
drop the last of the new guys
listen to older club members/ex officers who can tell you where your going wrong and will tell you who played well there 5-10 years previously
on the day pick 4 or 5 of last years pairings
come back to clubhouse and buy a few beers and talk about how you were very unlucky to be beaten in the 1st round by the eventual winners
..................................................seems to be the drill in quite a few clubs anyway

+1 to that.
You must be a member of my club because B sounds very familiar for senior & junior cup and barton !!

G1032

Changed clubs this year so don't know what it's like in new club yet. In my previous club there were only one real stipulation that had to be met. You had to be mates with the team captain.
Performing well in practice ment nothing, nada, zilch. Current form also used to count for nothing.
But come to think of it, if you had ever won a match, even if it was only the one, then you were considered a great match player and had a great chance of making a team.

Hacker111

my club is done by results and word of mouth around clubhouse..... pick a panel and have a "trial"..... the idea of a foursomes trial is a little dodgy, especially when your partner could be anyone... I'd say the team is basically picked before the trial....

Barton cup this year was a mix of youth, regulars and guys from top of GOY last year