New Business IDEAS room

newfrontier

Hi guys , I am about to launch a new site where those of you who have a good idea and want some feedback as to the viability can go for a peer review. I am partitioning the site so there is a private and public section...pitches will only be available to be seen by the community who pre register. Now I just need feedback on whether boardsies are trustworthy how comfortable are you with sharing your ideas for peer review? Now we all know I.P is a delicate area so the importance of trust is a vital consideration. So certain ideas will be more sensitive than others . If your idea is at the stage where you are ready to seek feedback this might suit I have one community lined up ready to try it. Regular boardsies know there is a good level of trust here with some great business advice to be had. But there is the public element which would prevent full discussion of certain ideas. So the questions I am asking are:
1. Would you like to be able to bounce your ideas of a community of your peers?
2. What level of protection would you be happy with?
Should be an interesting discussion

BlackEdelweiss

I'd like to bounce my ideas off them to see what they really thought of my business plans, but then I would have to kill them!

newfrontier

After all the great advice you got here ;]..I can understand that I would probably agree !

beya2009

BlackEdelweiss wrote: »

I'd like to bounce my ideas off them to see what they really thought of my business plans, but then I would have to kill them!

I totally agree with the above comment in a funny way. I would need some sort of protection before considering sharing my idea as I feel the one I have come up with in the last 2 weeks can be something that can change the face of the ways things are done.

Buford T Justice

If you are talking about specific business plans then you will definitely need a non disclosure agreement of some sort for people to sign up to it and so on.

John368

Fingers McGee wrote: »

If you are talking about specific business plans then you will definitely need a non disclosure agreement of some sort for people to sign up to it and so on.

Is enforcing those sort of things on the Internet a bit optistic don't you think? "Non disclosure" and "Internet" just does not seem words which should be used in the same sentence as far as I can see.

Maybe this is one for the web designers with regard to site security. My view is that if it goes on the internet, you have to assume that it will be public no matter how much you try to protect it.

John

fergalfrog

As the person behind norecessionroundhere.com I can tell you that many people with ideas are extremely paranoid that those they pitch their idea to will simply run off with the idea.

In reality you have to trust some people if you are going to set up anything. I have only signed one NDA in the past year and as it happens that idea does not look like it will come to anything.

People assume their idea is worth billions but there is a world of difference between saying and doing.

beya2009

fergalfrog wrote: »

As the person behind norecessionroundhere.com I can tell you that many people with ideas are extremely paranoid that those they pitch their idea to will simply run off with the idea.

In reality you have to trust some people if you are going to set up anything. I have only signed one NDA in the past year and as it happens that idea does not look like it will come to anything.

People assume their idea is worth billions but there is a world of difference between saying and doing.

Well said 2bh.

Its natural to get excited like a kid getting their first candy when a new idea props up that you think is gonna be big but when I came up with mine, I truly feel there is nothing like it around anywhere in Europe and more importantly in Ireland.

John368

fergalfrog wrote: »

I have only signed one NDA in the past year and as it happens that idea does not look like it will come to anything.

Is that not because you run a firm of professional web designers and thus clients can expect total client condfidentiality as a matter of course and there is no need for an NDA. The model that the OP is proposing as far as I can see is having some sort of web forum which is secure amonst members where new ideas can be discussed.

John

fergalfrog

John368 wrote: »

Is that not because you run a firm of professional web designers and thus clients can expect total client condfidentiality as a matter of course.

Perhaps - that may be the case.

However it's not always assumed. If it was there would be no such thing as NDAs or confidentiality agreements.

flash harry

More fundamentally, why would I sign up? I could just post here if I wanted advice/to get idea slaughtered

What's the different thing your offering? (not criticising just not sure angle)

John368

fergalfrog wrote: »

Perhaps - that may be the case.

However it's not always assumed. If it was there would be no such thing as NDAs or confidentiality agreements.

I think NDA's are fairly important in some businesses especially industrial businesses where new ideas have to be discussed months or maybe years before they are introduced to the market. I once had to sign one when I dealt with a large German industrial firm before they sent me some drawings of a piece of equipment they wanted me to put some very basic design input into. I usually deal with the local building industry and private people as a consulting structural engineer and NDA's are practically unheard of and everybody depends on your reputation and the fact that you could be effectively struck off for not keeping client confidentiality.

Most new ideas are very mundane like modifications or improvements to existing things. I totally agree with you in earlier posts when you say that most people (novices perhaps) think that their idea will be worth billions from the outset. It is like they think all bright ideas have to be things like inventing the cats light or correction fluid for typists - all of which made a fortune for their inventers.

fergalfrog

flash harry wrote: »

More fundamentally, why would I sign up? I could just post here if I wanted advice/to get idea slaughtered

What's the different thing your offering? (not criticising just not sure angle)

Also is there any other outcome other than getting feedback on the idea?

I Drink It Up!

fergalfrog wrote: »

As the person behind norecessionroundhere.com I can tell you that many people with ideas are extremely paranoid that those they pitch their idea to will simply run off with the idea.

In reality you have to trust some people if you are going to set up anything. I have only signed one NDA in the past year and as it happens that idea does not look like it will come to anything.

People assume their idea is worth billions but there is a world of difference between saying and doing.

Thats true but as I order my samples and become more and more familiar with the mechanics of international trade, I can see why people are scared to surrender information that they took months to gather together into a use-able format.

Lloyd Xmas

TBH, I think boards.ie is probably the best spot for getting sound enough advice / help, even with the often vague info posted by people looking for help.

Personally, I think I'd only ever give out the full whack of details if I met the proposed "advisor" face to face.
I suppose its just the fact that you've a better chance of sussing someone out if you meet them in person.

Perhaps you could facilitate a "match-making" service, although there are a few out there already.

Like, even with the NDA, there's no hurdles to stop anyone doing a runner with an idea.
The "advisor" runs off with the idea, gets the thing set up in his pals name, then the two of them head off into the sunset and live happily ever after :rolleyes:

John368

Lloyd Xmas wrote: »

Perhaps you could facilitate a "match-making" service, although there are a few out there already.
:rolleyes:

Lloyd

Seems like a good idea. Were you thinking of a particular site?

John

Lloyd Xmas

Hi John,

cmypitch.ie is one I came across; however I recall seeing a few similiar sites based in the UK also.

rgmartin91

Lloyd Xmas wrote: »

Hi John,

cmypitch.ie is one I came across; however I recall seeing a few similiar sites based in the UK also.

I had a quick look at that site, but it seems to be more centered towards looking for investment. I would be more interested in finding out if my idea is actually feasible, realistic and to hear about possible flaws that I may not have contemplated.

newfrontier

Cheers for the comments guys interesting comments, just to clarify site has 3 parts to it. To fill the needs as highlighted . part1 is idea discussion part 2 is networking/team building...ie if you pitch an idea and need certain skillsets to implement there will be a skillbase to choose from. So you pitch an idea get a team on board to help build the idea and then launch said idea, Part 3 ..Is Launch Support ... like a co-operative where new launchs are pushed as a wider group and hence should have a better chance of success!!As there will be a wider user base to test and spread the word if its any good. While I can see the potential for web ideas to work initially there could also be the potential for other ventures....This is something new and I am just willing to give it a push to see if it works. If you want to help out .. please PM me. Will post link Sunday Night for those interested in seeing site.

Hi OP

So its not really for peer review, its more a site to put a business idea to a skilled group and see can you get help realising the idea and starting a company?

What if the people in these skilled groups had a certain criteria they had to pass in order to become members and get to see these ideas/pitches. Then they have a profile with achievements, positions in their company etc.

The person with idea can go to the site and either pick one individual to send his plan/idea to based on that individuals skillset, or send it to the whole group.

For the NDA heres an idea for you -
Person gives a general description of their idea and posts it to the skilled group. Skilled people look at it and decide whether it is something they could sign an NDA for and not be worried it might cross over with a current plan they are doing or have thought about doing in the future.
If they are happy to sign the NDA you could have an electronic one in your site and the skilled person has the choice whether to sign it online and ask for more info from the presenter. Presenter gets NDA sent to their inbox then sends more info to skilled person.
If you are trying to build a team you could link in all the people who signed the NDA onto a private thread where things could further be discussed.

You could make money on both presenter and skilled people -
Skilled people pay a membership fee to get presented with lots of ideas, - but the ideas are presented for free.

You could also have a separate forum for business advice, where people who say might want to start a company or are running a small business have questions about VAT, strategies or whatever. They pay a fee to put their questions to all the skilled members who post their advice. Also since there is profiles of who is advising, you can see their credibility and avoid the drawback of boards which is the odd nasty negative person flaming you from behind their avatar.

Once the you get the traffic up in members and presenters, i think people would pay for it then if the idea is seen to be working.