Should they bring back the European belt?

TheTosh

Just wondering what people would think about bringing back the European title. I fell they should as it would give mid-carders a storyline rather then being just filler plus it would build up young wrestlers.

flahavaj

Pointless tbh. The IC/US Titles are mere props as it is and haven't been made seem important for years.

Headshot

bring back the hardcore belt

loved that belt

Mr.Nice Guy

I liked the European Title as a way to give lower card wrestlers something to fight for but I think the WWE is saturated with enough titles as it is. Two world belts, the IC belt, the US belt, two women's belts etc. I think it would be unnecessary.

In the old days anyone could win the European Title and the IC Title was perceived as being the more special, but these days the IC and US titles are as valuable as the European title used to be.

Penn

flahavaj wrote: »

Pointless tbh. The IC/US Titles are mere props as it is and haven't been made seem important for years.

Nail. Hit. Head.

Even when the European title was around, the main midcard feuds were always for the IC title. Nowadays though, there's f*ck all real fueds over the IC or the US title. Take the current champions. Has The Miz even fueded with anyone for the belt? Drew McIntyre has fought with Kane and Matt Hardy a bit over the past few months, but not for the title. Just to give them something to do.

It kinda makes sense in a way, because back when the European title was around, the IC was the secondary title to the World title. Now, there are two world titles, so in a way it is like the IC and US title have become the equivalent of what the European title was, just a title with occasional fueds for midcarders, but not as important as the top 2 titles.

It's a shame, because with the midcard both brands have, some of the fueds could be outstanding and really elevate guys.

chordtype

If anything they have too many belts as it is. Few of the belts mean anything anymore so introducing what is basically a third level belt isn't gonna mean anything. Drifting a bit off topic but I still think they should unify the IC and US belts. Use it to really elevate someone who can go to both shows and fend off all opponents.

Take a Diva belt away and bring back the Cruiserweight title.

davrho

No. If anything there are too many belts as it is.

As Fla says the IC and US title are hardly even mentioned or fueded over.

Butch Cassidy

Aside from the obvious arguments the European belt was rubbish in the sense that it never meant anything.

I'd wager you could count the amount of really good matches on both hands. Bulldog/Owen, Bulldog/Michaels and then there were a few decent matches when Chris Jericho got involved in 2000. That's about it really I think.

jaykhunter

flahavaj wrote: »

Pointless tbh. The IC/US Titles are mere props as it is and haven't been made seem important for years.

Couldn't agree more. More belts aren't the answer to a better division of wrestlers. The WWE and World championships have been seriously devalued but at least they get a title match at WrestleMania, unlike the IC/US title for the last few years. Goes to show how much stock WWE have in their midcard titles. (at Mania, the last IC title match was the throw-away Mysterio/JBL "match" and the last US title match featured Chris Benoit!)

If anything they should get rid of either the US or IC belt and have the division on both brands.

joepenguin

I think unify the wwe and whc titles and have the champ go between shows. Then keep the ic/us titles where they are so they may have more importance. Imo the euro title was pointless since it wasnt restricted to european wrestlers, and that isnt something thats achievable in wwe so non runner imo.

Handsome Bob

joepenguin wrote: »

I think unify the wwe and whc titles and have the champ go between shows. Then keep the ic/us titles where they are so they may have more importance. Imo the euro title was pointless since it wasnt restricted to european wrestlers, and that isnt something thats achievable in wwe so non runner imo.

I wouldn't be so sure of that, both titles are serving a nice purpose now; the WWE Title is the one all the big dogs are vying for on Raw while the WHC is the one all the "young guns" will be vying for on SD.

I think the US and IC titles still serve a purpose too in that they give a certain amount of cred to an upcoming talent, simply because they are holding a title. The only problem is that the titles aren't really given enough prominence. So in this regard it would be a mistake to bring the European title when they're barely showing the midcard titles that they already have some respect.

TheTosh

Butch Cassidy wrote: »

Aside from the obvious arguments the European belt was rubbish in the sense that it never meant anything.

I'd wager you could count the amount of really good matches on both hands. Bulldog/Owen, Bulldog/Michaels and then there were a few decent matches when Chris Jericho got involved in 2000. That's about it really I think.

Don't forget HHH v HBK, clearly a fast count by the ref Michaels got screwed.:D

Prufrock

TheTosh wrote: »

Don't forget HHH v HBK, clearly a fast count by the ref Michaels got screwed.:D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WrQYEKCYOY

HBK clearly gets his sholder up. :eek:

But in terms of great matches for the European title

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpyNCAg-GWE

TheTosh

IMO a bigger screw job then Montreal.

Degag

Ican't think of who holds the intercontinental title currently.... shows how important it is....

EDIT:// Wiki'd it, McIntyre.

Bounty Hunter

If they were to bring in any title it should be the Cruiserweight and make it interpromotional. They wont however but imagine the potential Cruiser division:

Rey Mysterio, Bryan Danielson, Evan Bourne, Low Ki, Tyson Kidd etc....

course im probably just saying that cos its what the BWE did

waltersobchak

Bounty Hunter wrote: »

If they were to bring in any title it should be the Cruiserweight and make it interpromotional. They wont however but imagine the potential Cruiser division:

Rey Mysterio, Bryan Danielson, Evan Bourne, Low Ki, Tyson Kidd etc....

course im probably just saying that cos its what the BWE did

nnnniiiiiiiiiccccceeee.. :pac: Bang Bang

sky88

i dont think they should bring the title back like people said theres enough titles already. if they just put some time into the us and interconientel title they would have great feuds.

Ruu_Old

*moves mouse away from Submit Thread on 'Bring back the TV Title!'* ;_;

Angron

One thing I always found funny about the European Belt was how there was only 2 Europeans who held it.. Regal and British Bulldog.

I guess it wouldn't be bad to have an inter-promotional belt, but I'd kinda rather something new to the European Title. Cruiserweight wouldn't be too bad if they had a few more in the weight-class. But I just can't see the WWE bringing in some new belt if there wasn't a big need for it.

Butch Cassidy

Ruu wrote: »

*moves mouse away from Submit Thread on 'Bring back the TV Title!'* ;_;

Hah!
ECW's TV Title was good in that it was just a trophy piece for RVD. Van Dam made it has important as the world title.

Can anyone remember the last time the WWE title changed hands on a non-televised show? Or any title for that matter?
The only one I can think of is Austin vs. Taker at Over the Edge 99 as it was never replayed, though they did show highlights of the match weeks later on RAW I think. Other than that I think you've to go back to Diesel vs. Backlund

joepenguin wrote: »

I think unify the wwe and whc titles and have the champ go between shows. Then keep the ic/us titles where they are so they may have more importance. Imo the euro title was pointless since it wasnt restricted to european wrestlers, and that isnt something thats achievable in wwe so non runner imo.

Seems to be an ongoing argument about whether or not they have enough top main event guys to sustain the split brand and two separate belts. IMO they should at the least book a big champion vs champion match. That Cyber Sundy triple threat from 2006 was terribly wasted.

Prufrock wrote: »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WrQYEKCYOY

HBK clearly gets his sholder up. :eek:

But in terms of great matches for the European title

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpyNCAg-GWE

Yeah case in point as to why the Euro title was sh*t. Because they did nothing with it for a full year and then after D'lo's lil run with it then Shano Mac turned it into a comedy piece.

JP Liz V1

There is no need for another belt and they need to get rid of diva's title also

Cactus Colm

Well, I think it might be interesting for Sheamus, Drew McIntyre, William Regal, or Finlay to win the US Title, and then replace it with the European Title. Obviously it would only last as long as the angle, but could make for an interesting angle.

Butch Cassidy

Cactus Colm wrote: »

Well, I think it might be interesting for Sheamus, Drew McIntyre, William Regal, or Finlay to win the US Title, and then replace it with the European Title. Obviously it would only last as long as the angle, but could make for an interesting angle.

Sheamus? Eh... "former WWE champion who beat John Cena" Sheamus? You want to put a third rate strap on that guy?

jaykhunter

Cactus Colm wrote: »

Well, I think it might be interesting for Sheamus, Drew McIntyre, William Regal, or Finlay to win the US Title, and then replace it with the European Title. Obviously it would only last as long as the angle, but could make for an interesting angle.

that sounds awesome. Book it, Dano!

parker kent

Cactus Colm wrote: »

Well, I think it might be interesting for Sheamus, Drew McIntyre, William Regal, or Finlay to win the US Title, and then replace it with the European Title. Obviously it would only last as long as the angle, but could make for an interesting angle.

Similar to Lance Storm in WCW when he turned the US title into the Canadian title. That got more heat though as Canada is more easily identified by Americans. There is no real shared European identity whereas there is a Canadian identity.

I also think that similar to what was posted above, the Intercontinental title is similar to what the European title was in the past. Now the WHC is in the position of the Intercontinental title, giving the guys like CM Punk on the way up a title to aim for.