Peugeot 107 -v- Hyundai i10

Gaeilgeoir

Trying to choose between Peugeot 107 and Hyundai i10. I haven't a clue about cars though! I prefer the look of the Peugeot but the Hyundai seems to be technically better and more reliable. Any advice?

Leonard Hofstadter

I'd have the Pug, the engineering for it was done by Toyota, that car was an example automotive partnerships done properly; Toyota were allowed do what they were good at(engines, reliability, I'd much rather the Japs design and build the engines and electrical system of my car than the French) and Peugeot-Citroen played to their strengths, they got to design a car that looks good and has a funky interior(thankfully Toyota had no input there because it would have been even duller than the i10 if Toyota had designed the interior and exterior):).

colm_mcm

107 is the same as Toyota Aygo, I've driven both and I don't know which I'd choose. the i10 isn't as funky looking but has a quieter angine and better interior.
Tough one.

I'd probably buy something else actually.

JHMEG

Someone I know was looking to trade in their low miles '06 206 for a 207 recently, only the Peugeot dealer wouldn't take their car as a trade-in. Hyundai dealer had no problems taking it and she's now driving an i30. What I'm saying is in her case the Peugeot dealer made up her mind for her very easily.

Gaeilgeoir

Well I'm going for the scrappage deal, though I;m also keeping my eye out for decent 2nd hand cars with low mileage. Have been looking at Kia Picanto too, think the Hyundai is a better bet though. Hoping to test drive the Peugeot this week and get a better idea...

pajo1981

The 107 is a toyota so it is more likely to drive itself into a wall. But the the korean Hyudai is more likely to try and eat your neighbours dog.

But as has been stated, the 107 is french and therefore for some reason its 'electrics' will explode.

JHMEG

^ a classic pub post if there ever was one:D

alias no.9

Gaeilgeoir wrote: »

Have been looking at Kia Picanto too, think the Hyundai is a better bet though.

The I10 and Picanto are essentially the same car except for styling.

Gaeilgeoir

was thinking about a 2nd hand car Peugeot but it's in Balbriggan and I'm far far away on the southside of Dublin. Probably wouldn't be a great idea in case I had any problems with it...

EPM

i10 is a newer design. Has a nicer looking interior too. But for the money you could get something miles better if you were willing to go back a couple of years

Gaeilgeoir

Well I've been looking at 2nd hand cars from 07 on but haven't seen any I liked. Any suggestions? It's been suggested that I'm better off buying a new one cos it'll hold its value better if I want to sell it down the line.

pajo1981

Gaeilgeoir wrote: »

Well I've been looking at 2nd hand cars from 07 on but haven't seen any I liked. Any suggestions? It's been suggested that I'm better off buying a new one cos it'll hold its value better if I want to sell it down the line.

Hold its value better than a second hand car?

Nothing loses value quite like a new car. Whoever told you that is crazy.

colm_mcm

If you can get a good scrappage deal it may be an option.

Gaeilgeoir

Well the i10 has a list price of €12600 before scrappage & I'd get it for €9350. I'm thinking if I wanted to sell it next year or the year after it'd probably still be worth as much if not more than I paid for it. That's the logic behind a new car holding it's value better!

pajo1981

Gaeilgeoir wrote: »

Well the i10 has a list price of €12600 before scrappage & I'd get it for €9350. I'm thinking if I wanted to sell it next year or the year after it'd probably still be worth as much if not more than I paid for it. That's the logic behind a new car holding it's value better!

Right now I can pick up a two yo i10 for 7k. The reason: a new one can be got for 9k - this is how the market works.

In 2 years time I guarantee you I will be able to get a 2010 i10 for 6-7k.

Leonard Hofstadter

Gaeilgeoir wrote: »

Well the i10 has a list price of €12600 before scrappage & I'd get it for €9350. I'm thinking if I wanted to sell it next year or the year after it'd probably still be worth as much if not more than I paid for it. That's the logic behind a new car holding it's value better!

Problem for you OP is just about every one else who is not really into cars(I'm not trying to be demeaning towards you but you did say you weren't into them;)) and is in a similar situation to youself is thinking the very same thing meaning that it's never going to happen in reality.

Cars always have and always will lose most of their value in the first year of their life, scrappage scheme or no scrappage scheme, and PS the prices you see in Carzone for 1 or 2 year old cars are WAY over what the reality is:).

Gaeilgeoir

But surely there are advantages to buying a new car or else we'd all be buying 2nd hand? The prices seem very good at the moment and I suppose it's nice to know your car can't have a hidden past!

Pajo, any chance you could tell me where to find an '08 i10 for 7k? I can't find a decent 2nd hand car with a low mileage for less than €8000.

pajo1981

Gaeilgeoir wrote: »

But surely there are advantages to buying a new car or else we'd all be buying 2nd hand? The prices seem very good at the moment and I suppose it's nice to know your car can't have a hidden past!

Pajo, any chance you could tell me where to find an '08 i10 for 7k? I can't find a decent 2nd hand car with a low mileage for less than €8000.

You get a shiny new 10 reg plate, a slightly longer warranty, and you can bask in the knowledge that no-one has owned the car before you. Otherwise, no, there are no advantages to buying new.

Check out carzone. There are a few '08 i10s advertised at €7750-8000.

Check them out, be bold, offer 7k cash (offer to pay a 1k deposit there on the spot).They'll probably take it. If not, what have you lost?

TBH, the real bargains are the 3 year old cars

Gaeilgeoir

Yeah unfortunately their mileage isn't great. Will go look at a couple of 07 cars tomorrow though, a Peugeot 107 and a Fiat Grande Punto. Would love to save a few thousand if I can get a 2nd hand car I like!

pajo1981

Gaeilgeoir wrote: »

Yeah unfortunately their mileage isn't great. Will go look at a couple of 07 cars tomorrow though, a Peugeot 107 and a Fiat Grande Punto. Would love to save a few thousand if I can get a 2nd hand car I like!

Seriously man, 20k miles on a modern car is absolutely nothing.

Check them out. They will look and drive like new.

The i10 is a new model,and will feel much more up to date than the 107 (which has been around for a while now).

Gaeilgeoir

Well I'm really looking for a mileage of less than 20km. I guess I don't trust 2nd hand cars, you never know where they've been or what's been done to them! The 2 I'll look at tomorrow have a decent mileage though so we'll see....

Vertakill

Gaeilgeoir wrote: »

Well I'm really looking for a mileage of less than 20km. I guess I don't trust 2nd hand cars, you never know where they've been or what's been done to them! The 2 I'll look at tomorrow have a decent mileage though so we'll see....

I could understand that attitude if you were buying a 15 year old Civic... but you're looking to buy a 1,2, or 3 year old 107/i10...

They say something like 10k miles is the average mileage for cars per year. In KM, that's 16,000km.
So, 20k km isn't even 18 months driving for the average person. I'd take that into consideration rather than just eliminate certain cars based on this crazy 20k km mark.

Leonard Hofstadter

20,000 km is only 12,000 miles OP, i.e. nothing at all.

Gaeilgeoir

I suppose it's because I've only driven 4,500 miles in the last 3 years so I'm looking for a car that's been owned by someone like me. Just used as a runaround rather than for commuting etc.

Any opinions on Hyundai i10 -v- Kia Picanto -v- Peugeot 107?

alias no.9

Gaeilgeoir wrote: »

I suppose it's because I've only driven 4,500 miles in the last 3 years so I'm looking for a car that's been owned by someone like me. Just used as a runaround rather than for commuting etc.

Any opinions on Hyundai i10 -v- Kia Picanto -v- Peugeot 107?

30k miles isn't going to break a car, nor will 50k or 60k for that matter once it's serviced to schedule and not abused, most manufacturers warranties are for at least 60k miles as a testiment to that.
I'm going to put a slightly different perspective mileage for you. If you buy a 2 year old car with higher than average mileage, i.e. about 50,000km that has been looked after and thoroughly checked by a mechanic and perhaps came with a 3 year manufacturers warranty so you have one years warranty left. You'll buy it very cheap for the model and year.
Because you do so little mileage, even if you did 10,000km over the next 2 years, then you'd be selling a 4 year old car with average mileage and should fetch top average money for the model and year.
For the amount of usage you give a car, this will work out by far the most cost effective.