14 yr old learners permit

Dusty87

Is it too young???
I think it depends on the person. The brother wants a shotgun. Hes fairly into it. Has his camo gear bought and cant wait for me to invite him out anytime, even if all he does is watch. So he has his gear and now wants to save up for a gun. Personnally id rather hem not. He knows safety etc but at that age (14), is it too risky?? Also i dont think he is strong enough for a 12g.
Is 14 too young or does it depend on the person.
He loves shooting and nature etc but i think he,s too young.
Am i right or is it the "big brother talking"?
Thanks

Tackleberrywho

Dusty87 wrote: »

Is it too young???
I think it depends on the person. The brother wants a shotgun. Hes fairly into it. Has his camo gear bought and cant wait for me to invite him out anytime, even if all he does is watch. So he has his gear and now wants to save up for a gun. Personnally id rather hem not. He knows safety etc but at that age (14), is it too risky?? Also i dont think he is strong enough for a 12g.
Is 14 too young or does it depend on the person.
He loves shooting and nature etc but i think he,s too young.
Am i right or is it the "big brother talking"?
Thanks

Depends on the individual
Some 18 year olds are not as grown up as some 14 year olds

ormondprop

i was the same at that age and used to love goin with the father hunting on sunday mornings, i was happy out even when i was only beating cover like an extra dog,i was let swap with some of the older lads at times when they wanted a break:D so they would give me their shotgun for a while, i was let shoot any time when i was out hunting and the father on his own and he would let me shoot around the farm or on local ground with a .22 and shotgun from around 13 years of age as long as he was with me. i was never allowed out on my own till about 16 when i got my own gun and i believe that that is the the right age, i had learned a lot and i was a lot more mature, thats just my thoughts on it, all depends how mature he his

Dusty87

Mmmmmm,
Id like to see him with one but not yet.
Break his heart if i said no as he's bought his gear. Its bothering me cos i was at the home place this evening Tack and he was on about this O/U he seen on irishguntrader. Im running out of things to tell him to save up for:p An ecollar maybe but he has no dog:D
Jeep still screaming btw

Dusty87

ormondprop wrote: »

i was the same at that age and used to love goin with the father hunting on sunday mornings, i was happy out even when i was only beating cover like an extra dog,i was let swap with some of the older lads at times when they wanted a break:D so they would give me their shotgun for a while, i was let shoot any time when i was out hunting and the father on his own and he would let me shoot around the farm or on local ground with a .22 and shotgun from around 13 years of age as long as he was with me. i was never allowed out on my own till about 16 when i got my own gun and i believe that that is the the right age, i had learned a lot and i was a lot more mature, thats just my thoughts on it, all depends how mature he his

He's a lot more mature than most 14 yr olds in fairness. He had to grow up quick kinda thing. I let him have the odd shot as your father let you, but as you said you were 16 when out on your own. He'd be with me or local lads, but the 12 gauge, i reckon, would be too much. Iv heard mixed reports on .410's. Is there less kick??
hes happy tagging along with me, getting the odd shot but its gone to the stage now he's that sure hes getting his own gun at 14.

theirishguy

+ 1 for the .410 my uncle had a mossberg 500 in .410 and he let me use it most times we went out when i was 13 years old but i was never let out on my own i always had a mature person with me at all times which imho i think is the best way but that's just me.

ormondprop

Dusty87 wrote: »

hes happy tagging along with me, getting the odd shot but its gone to the stage now he's that sure hes getting his own gun at 14.

ya i was the same when i was younger, i remember nagging the father for ages to let me buy a gun out of my confirmation money, ended up doing a deal that if i invested it all in sheep for the farm that he'd trade in his old single shot remington .22 for a cz:D

Dusty87

[QUOTE=theirishguy;65671475 when i was 13 years old but i was never let out on my own i always had a mature person with me at all times which imho i think is the best way but that's just me.[/QUOTE]

Oh god yeah, wouldnt be out on his own. Your dead right

Dusty87

ormondprop wrote: »

ya i was the same when i was younger, i remember nagging the father for ages to let me buy a gun out of my confirmation money, ended up doing a deal that if i invested it all in sheep for the farm that he'd trade in his old single shot remington .22 for a cz:D

I think two words sum up both our fathers......... cute hoors:D:D

It wasn't me!

Brilliant to see him wanting to get involved. If he applied for a training licence on your gun, you could coach him into the sport for the next two years. Sounds like he's got a good head on him and is keen, but you're the best placed to know that. If he's got a good head, I'd take him on as a trainee in your position, but if you're not comfortable doing that, then obviously you shouldn't. I wouldn't worry about the kick of the 12 bore either, unless he's extremely small or unusually weak. Get the stock cut to fit him if he is small and he'll be sorted.

Dusty87

It wasn't me! wrote: »

Brilliant to see him wanting to get involved. If he applied for a training licence on your gun, you could coach him into the sport for the next two years. Sounds like he's got a good head on him and is keen, but you're the best placed to know that. If he's got a good head, I'd take him on as a trainee in your position, but if you're not comfortable doing that, then obviously you shouldn't. I wouldn't worry about the kick of the 12 bore either, unless he's extremely small or unusually weak. Get the stock cut to fit him if he is small and he'll be sorted.

IWM, can i get him as a 'named shooter' on my gun??
If so that would be the best

Tackleberrywho

Dusty87 wrote: »

He's a lot more mature than most 14 yr olds in fairness. He had to grow up quick kinda thing. I let him have the odd shot as your father let you, but as you said you were 16 when out on your own. He'd be with me or local lads, but the 12 gauge, i reckon, would be too much. Iv heard mixed reports on .410's. Is there less kick??
hes happy tagging along with me, getting the odd shot but its gone to the stage now he's that sure hes getting his own gun at 14.

My Uncle has a .410 that was my grandads. Very small kick, very small knockdown too though. 16gauge and 20gauge are better, but a 12 gauge with a light load 28gram is not a huge difference.

Easier sell 12g when he wants to trade up!

P.S Robbie Sweeney does a good deal on Fan belts lol

Rovi

Dusty87 wrote: »

IWM, can i get him as a 'named shooter' on my gun??
If so that would be the best

At age 14, that's ALL he can do.

The Training Certificate may be applied for by a person over 14 years of age, but a full Firearm Certificate can only be applied for by a person over 16.

It wasn't me!

Dusty87 wrote: »

IWM, can i get him as a 'named shooter' on my gun??
If so that would be the best

Yep, that's pretty much all the training licence is. He won't be able to go out on his own or buy his own shotgun, so you've nothing to worry about.

Dusty87

Tackleberrywho wrote: »

My Uncle has a .410 that was my grandads. Very small kick, very small knockdown too though. 16gauge and 20gauge are better, but a 12 gauge with a light load 28gram is not a huge difference.

Easier sell 12g when he wants to trade up!

P.S Robbie Sweeney does a good deal on Fan belts lol

I know, the ould boy has an account, and i put all the parts for my last car on it. Grand until robbie sent out the bill. "Dusty, where'd you get the new parts for the mazda?"

Rovi wrote: »

At age 14, that's ALL he can do.

The Training Certificate may be applied for by a person over 14 years of age, but a full Firearm Certificate can only be applied for by a person over 16.

Yea grand. What i though was, he could could buy a gun, put it in my name, my safe etc. But at 14 he can only be licenced on a gun, not his own???

It wasn't me!

Dusty87 wrote: »

I know, the ould boy has an account, and i put all the parts for my last car on it. Grand until robbie sent out the bill. "Dusty, where'd you get the new parts for the mazda?"



Yea grand. What i though was, he could could buy a gun, put it in my name, my safe etc. But at 14 he can only be licenced on a gun, not his own???

Exactly. He can only have a training licence for a gun someone else holds a full certificate for and under their supervision only.

Dusty87

It wasn't me! wrote: »

Exactly. He can only have a training licence for a gun someone else holds a full certificate for and under their supervision only.

Ah, like a named driver on a car. Cool, i get it now.
Might be the best option