Red Dawn remake?

PeterIanStaker

Heard recently that there's talk of a Red Dawn (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0087985/) remake, and China will be the bad guys this time. Can anyone shed light on this? With all the remakes/reboots of 80's stuff lately I wouldn't be that suprised tbh.

sendit

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Dawn_%282011_film%29

pixelburp

PeterIanStaker wrote: »

Heard recently that there's talk of a Red Dawn (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0087985/) remake, and China will be the bad guys this time. Can anyone shed light on this? With all the remakes/reboots of 80's stuff lately I wouldn't be that suprised tbh.

The Chinese were the bad guys. However, reports are the Studio has got cold feet about annoying the Asian market & are going to digitally remove all Chinese flags, colours & change the invaders to North Koreans :rolleyes:

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/la-et-china-red-dawn-20110316,0,995726.story

Just when you thought Hollywood couldn't get more spineless ...

JP Liz V1

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1234719/

TheIrishGrover

pixelburp wrote: »

The Chinese were the bad guys. However, reports are the Studio has got cold feet about annoying the Asian market & are going to digitally remove all Chinese flags, colours & change the invaders to North Koreans :rolleyes:

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/la-et-china-red-dawn-20110316,0,995726.story

Just when you thought Hollywood couldn't get more spineless ...

I for one welcome our Chinese overlords........... I've no choice, they tuk muh jubbbbb

Phony Scott

pixelburp wrote: »

change the invaders to North Koreans

Hang on, don't North Korea no longer recognise Communism? If that is the case, shouldn't the title be renamed Pinko Dawn?!

Richard Dower

Hmmm.

JP Liz V1

Trailer is out

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGoe7BdGdlg

krudler

good lord that looks terrible, star spangled awesomeness.

HoggyRS

Nationalist nonsense just like the original

ReacherCreature

Really reminds of Australia's Tomorrow When The War Began which was probably influenced by the original Red Dawn itself.

pixelburp

Slightly ironic that something so overtly chest-thumping as this would have two Australians in its lead cast.

To be fair though, a movie like this could be interesting & quite topical given recent events: imagine if they played with the idea of the Americans as insurgents, and challenged the audience with ideas of US citizens as terrorists, fighting their own kind as well as the invaders - it would be fairly dramatic, emotional stuff.

Of course they won't do any of that, whilst you can't read too much into a trailer there's no way in hell a studio would touch subject matter like that.

ReacherCreature

pixelburp wrote: »

Slightly ironic that something so overtly chest-thumping as this would have two Australians in its lead cast.

To be fair though, a movie like this could be interesting & quite topical given recent events: imagine if they played with the idea of the Americans as insurgents, and challenged the audience with ideas of US citizens as terrorists, fighting their own kind as well as the invaders - it would be fairly dramatic, emotional stuff.

Good point. I think you've answered your point with the first part of the quote. Any ideas that are thoughtful will likely be passed over by the flowing sense of patriotic pride that the film will lump on, essentially, "'Merica!".

There's a few issues that the seem to be incorporated, one of the most prominent looks to be the use of improvised explosive devices (IED) a major killer in Iraq and Afghanistan as well as any contemporary-future battliefield.

krudler

pixelburp wrote: »

Slightly ironic that something so overtly chest-thumping as this would have two Australians in its lead cast.

To be fair though, a movie like this could be interesting & quite topical given recent events: imagine if they played with the idea of the Americans as insurgents, and challenged the audience with ideas of US citizens as terrorists, fighting their own kind as well as the invaders - it would be fairly dramatic, emotional stuff.

Of course they won't do any of that, whilst you can't read too much into a trailer there's no way in hell a studio would touch subject matter like that.

That is a good idea, but this is about FREEDOM, and more FREEDOM!

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

it was done better in bsg

i know the movie isn't out yet and it wasn't going to be about that anyway but it was still done better in bsg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QVXIXrHTVw

ReacherCreature

krudler wrote: »

That is a good idea, but this is about FREEDOM, and more FREEDOM!

"America, fcuk yeah!" <-- Trailer leaks of that.

OU812

There was absolutely no need to remake Red Dawn. Cheesey as it was, it was an absolute classic up there with the breakfast club & ferris bueller.

The explosions & even the invading paratroopers were all practical, none of this (mostly) cgi stuff.

I do like the idea above with the threat coming from within though, that would have been a better movie & maybe even a sequal rather than a remake.

Gee Bag

Red Dawn is for pinko liberals, true patriots prefer...........

Tipsy McSwagger

Watched Red Dawn 1984 the other day and it is pure shyte.

Rovi

Tipsy McSwagger wrote: »

Watched Red Dawn 1984 the other day and it is pure shyte.

:eek::eek::eek:

BURN THE HERETIC!!!

After watching this and like the original it's an enjoyable time killer that doesn't exactly do anything a hundred other films haven't done before. The cast are decent and the action is relatively well handled though the PG-13 rating doesn't allow for much in the way of bloodshed. It's very much a film about pretty people shooting at foreigners and as such the film hasn't a single intelligent thing to say. The concept is ripe for some interesting ideas to be examined and I would like to see a film tackle the idea in a less gung-ho fashion.

Red Dawn is one of those films that will largely be forgotten a few months from now. It's not a film many will ever want to watch a second time but for a time killer there's a hell of a lot worse ways to spend 100 minutes.

The opening scenes and in fact, a large portion of the film seem to have been lifted not from the original but from Milius's game, Homefront. Entire sequences were lifted directly from it and while the game was heavily influenced by the original Red Dawn I'm a little surprised by how similar they ate. Though that said it could well be the case that the game lifted material from the remake.

power101

Deleted User wrote: »

After watching this and like the original it's an enjoyable time killer that doesn't exactly do anything a hundred other films haven't done before. The cast are decent and the action is relatively well handled though the PG-13 rating doesn't allow for much in the way of bloodshed. It's very much a film about pretty people shooting at foreigners and as such the film hasn't a single intelligent thing to say. The concept is ripe for some interesting ideas to be examined and I would like to see a film tackle the idea in a less gung-ho fashion.

Red Dawn is one of those films that will largely be forgotten a few months from now. It's not a film many will ever want to watch a second time but for a time killer there's a hell of a lot worse ways to spend 100 minutes.

The opening scenes and in fact, a large portion of the film seem to have been lifted not from the original but from Milius's game, Homefront. Entire sequences were lifted directly from it and while the game was heavily influenced by the original Red Dawn I'm a little surprised by how similar they ate. Though that said it could well be the case that the game lifted material from the remake.

I disagree as a fan of the original this remake will stay in my top 10 worst remakes for a long time. I won't be able to forget about it. Josh peck, dear god, what were they thinking. A tweet I sent after the movie sums up my feelings "After 5 minutes I hoped they'd kill Josh Peck off". His acting was beyond deplorable. He alone ruined the movie for me before it got off the ground.

There was no back story no building of characters no real story whatsoever. I am a massive fan of action movies but this was just senseless. Random explosion here or there, stupid explanation of how

these students were easily making it throughout the town even though surely there would have been school photos etc that the North Koreans could have blown up on a few thousand 8*12 posters and stuck around town.

How did the North Koreans get tanks & armor into the middle of America?? Air drop ?!?!?! Where did these planes refuel in America or did the North Koreans invent the most economical planes ever?!

How at the end of the movie did four cars take down a whole army base?

Why was Josh Peck in this movie? Bring back Drake and Josh so he can never get into any movie ever again!

I'm sorry for my rant but I was really looking forward to this movie. I'm just so terribly disappointed

power101

power101 wrote: »

I disagree as a fan of the original this remake will stay in my top 10 worst remakes for a long time. I won't be able to forget about it. Josh peck, dear god, what were they thinking. A tweet I sent after the movie sums up my feelings "After 5 minutes I hoped they'd kill Josh Peck off". His acting was beyond deplorable. He alone ruined the movie for me before it got off the ground.

There was no back story no building of characters no real story whatsoever. I am a massive fan of action movies but this was just senseless. Random explosion here or there, stupid explanation of how

these students were easily making it throughout the town even though surely there would have been school photos etc that the North Koreans could have blown up on a few thousand 8*12 posters and stuck around town.

How did the North Koreans get tanks & armor into the middle of America?? Air drop ?!?!?! Where did these planes refuel in America or did the North Koreans invent the most economical planes ever?!

How at the end of the movie did four cars take down a whole army base?

Why was Josh Peck in this movie? Bring back Drake and Josh so he can never get into any movie ever again!

I'm sorry for my rant but I was really looking forward to this movie. I'm just so terribly disappointed

I don't mind Peck and loved The Wackness so was more forgiving of his shortcomings here.

The original Red Dawn is a fun action film but its also stupid beyond belief and full if flag waving patriotism, much like the remake.

I had numerous issues with the film but at the end of the day it's a medium budgeted action film aimed at teen audiences and as such it's not striving to be anything other than entertaining. There are films that you can ask such questions about, how did they get all that ordnance and man power in, etc but this isn't one of them. It's the very definition of a few beers and some pizza film that will be forgotten before the credits have ended.

The way they walked into town repeatedly was ridiculous but it was made clear that on ocassion the Korean general allowed them to so as to catch them. It was stupid beyond belief but as I said its not supposed to be taken any way seriously. Originally the invading army was to be Chinese but the studio recognised that China was far more receptive to showing US films than North Korea so the change was made in post.

As for the final attack, it wasn't a base but a prison camp that didn't exactly appear to be anything more than some wire and a couple if guard towers. Some heavy machinery was all it would take to get in there.

Mickeroo

power101 wrote: »

I disagree as a fan of the original this remake will stay in my top 10 worst remakes for a long time. I won't be able to forget about it. Josh peck, dear god, what were they thinking. A tweet I sent after the movie sums up my feelings "After 5 minutes I hoped they'd kill Josh Peck off". His acting was beyond deplorable. He alone ruined the movie for me before it got off the ground.

There was no back story no building of characters no real story whatsoever. I am a massive fan of action movies but this was just senseless. Random explosion here or there, stupid explanation of how

these students were easily making it throughout the town even though surely there would have been school photos etc that the North Koreans could have blown up on a few thousand 8*12 posters and stuck around town.

How did the North Koreans get tanks & armor into the middle of America?? Air drop ?!?!?! Where did these planes refuel in America or did the North Koreans invent the most economical planes ever?!

How at the end of the movie did four cars take down a whole army base?

Why was Josh Peck in this movie? Bring back Drake and Josh so he can never get into any movie ever again!

I'm sorry for my rant but I was really looking forward to this movie. I'm just so terribly disappointed

I only saw the original for the first time in the last year. It was entertaining enough but it was fairly dumb and pretty much suffered from all the problems that you've pointed out there.

The best thing about it was the score imo. I enjoyed it for what it was but it was definitely a product of it's time and doesn't really hold up all that well without a heavy dose of nostalgia thrown in.

ReacherCreature

The film was terrible in places, most notably the camera work was shoddy and trying to hard to be Bourne-esque and acting, particularly Peck's was poor. Also the complete lack of characterisation was desperate. I honestly wouldn't have cared if they were all slaughtered, bar Jed who was fleshed out the best - and that's saying something.

The premise was hilarious. NK just couldn't have the resources the launch a widescale air attack on the States even with an EMP attack. There wouldn't be enough air-to-air tankers to sustain the transports. Even if they did, I didn't see a solitary US soldier. Nonsense. Anyway, that topic has been done to death. What I did like was the action. It was brutal and hard-hitting. It's notable that the roles from contemporary wars and films have been reversed. Instead of Iraqi insurgents using IEDs, it's now the US civilians planting car bombs, violent ambushes, and open assassinations of the enemy. Other action films shy away from that regard but the direction on that aspect was well-taken.

Overall it's worth a watch for some brainless fun and some scenes are enjoyable (such as a transporter being shot down and the various ambushes) but it's really dragged down in a lot of other areas.

B.A._Baracus

Red Dawn remake is 'alight' The original is well better tho.