AIB & the Head Shop

Augmerson

So. I went into one of those Head Shops Joe Duffy & Co. are always going on about today to buy a glass pipe for a friend of mine whose birthday is coming up this week. I got up to the counter with the pipe I wanted and realised, hey, I've got no cash. Asked the guy behind the desk if I could pay with laser?

No. They had gotten their laser machine taken away by AIB because AIB disagreed on moral and ethical grounds on the Head shops business.

Let's take a moment to just think this over.

AIB. The bank that is getting millions, no billions of euro's from the taxpayers because they ****ed up big time disagree's with this places line of business. Is this not the biggest ****ing piss take ever?

I don't see AIB denying off-licenses or anwyhere that sells alcohol the use of Laser services or likewise anywhere that sells tobacco, yet they take away the laser service from a business that is actually making money during a recession.

Discuss.

starbelgrade

Here's another made-up scenario. I was in AIB the other day & they offered me a huge loan with a 1% fixed interest rate over 45 years.

Indubitable

Moral issues shouldn't be involved in banking. A bank isn't supposed to be thinking about moral issues but about how they are going to make money in a recession. How dare they take my money

orourkeda

I thought it would be ideal for the stoners that run the banking sector

whiskeyman

Augmerson wrote: »

No. They had gotten their laser machine taken away by AIB because AIB disagreed on moral and ethical grounds on the Head shops business.
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I reckon that's a load of crap as they want to keep it a cash only business.

bleg

I went into a head shop and went to pay with an AIB bank card. They said they don't take them because they don't agree with AIB on ethical grounds.

Liam Byrne

kingofthe3rdyrs wrote: »

Moral issues shouldn't be involved in banking.

Don't worry....from what we've seen and endured in this country, they don't.

4zn76tysfajdxp

Augmerson wrote: »

Discuss.

Nahhhhh...

phasers

That's retarded, all anyone has to do is wander on over to an AIB bank machine, withdraw cash and pay for their stuff. It's exactly the same. Are bank machines going to start asking us about our intentions next?

starbelgrade

phasers wrote: »

That's retarded, all anyone has to do is wander on over to an AIB bank machine, withdraw cash and pay for their stuff. It's exactly the same. Are bank machines going to start asking us about our intentions next?

Apparently, they are soon going to drug test people & only give out cash if the results come back negative.

darragh16

I wouldn't really want a bank to see 'Head Shop' on the statement. Kinda like a bookies on the statement...

120_Minutes

Show me a person that wants head shops shut and has taken a drink or smoked a cigarette, and i'll show you an ignorant hypocrite.

M5

So let me get this straight, AIB dont want people to spend their money in a head shop on ethical grounds? Maybe they should let us know where to spend it instead since they did such a mighty fine job spending everyone else's money for all these years:rolleyes:

M5

120_Minutes wrote: »

Show me a person that wants head shops shut and has taken a drink or smoked a cigarette, and i'll show you an ignorant hypocrite.

you mean a good honest tax payer :cool:

whiteboy

I hate the word head shop

K-9

Augmerson wrote: »

So. I went into one of those Head Shops Joe Duffy & Co. are always going on about today to buy a glass pipe for a friend of mine whose birthday is coming up this week. I got up to the counter with the pipe I wanted and realised, hey, I've got no cash. Asked the guy behind the desk if I could pay with laser?

No. They had gotten their laser machine taken away by AIB because AIB disagreed on moral and ethical grounds on the Head shops business.

Let's take a moment to just think this over.

AIB. The bank that is getting millions, no billions of euro's from the taxpayers because they ****ed up big time disagree's with this places line of business. Is this not the biggest ****ing piss take ever?

I don't see AIB denying off-licenses or anwyhere that sells alcohol the use of Laser services or likewise anywhere that sells tobacco, yet they take away the laser service from a business that is actually making money during a recession.

Discuss.

AIB taking the High moral ground?

rainbowdrop

whiteboy wrote: »

I hate the word head shop

That's two words........

Augmerson

K-9 wrote: »

AIB taking the High moral ground?

Whodda thunk it right?

K-9

Augmerson wrote: »

Whodda thunk it right?

Maybe they are worried about the illegal opposition? Considering some of the loans they handed out in the last few years, makes sense.

mcmoustache

Ethical and moral grounds??
Hahahahahahahasnort!

Sniff! A bit late now, I think.

metalfest

whiskeyman wrote: »

I reckon that's a load of crap as they want to keep it a cash only business.

most likely the truth

The_Minister

I really, really, really doubt that that is true OP.

EGriff

The guy behind the counter was talking absolute sh*te. The place never had a laser/credit card machine. Seriously, 99.999% of people going in there are gonna pay in cash and dart back out the door.. . . . . . IMO.

Been in a few and they all look like they could shut down and move somewhere else with 24 hours notice.

Augmerson

EGriff wrote: »

The guy behind the counter was talking absolute sh*te. The place never had a laser/credit card machine. Seriously, 99.999% of people going in there are gonna pay in cash and dart back out the door.. . . . . . IMO.

Been in a few and they all look like they could shut down and move somewhere else with 24 hours notice.

I was in there before and they had a laser machine. I don't suspect the reason the machine is now gone is because they wanted to keep it cash only, sure why not do that from the beginning?

starbelgrade

The_Minister wrote: »

I really, really, really doubt that that is true OP.

Despite sounding like something you'd hear on Joe Duffy, it is actually true.

m5ex9oqjawdg2i

I definately wouldn't take his word for it. There's more to the story than that. I also doubt AIB would give a damn what he sells once it's legal, which for the time being, is.

starbelgrade

Titan Flat Codfish wrote: »

I definately wouldn't take his word for it. There's more to the story than that. I also doubt AIB would give a damn what he sells once it's legal, which for the time being, is.

Again, it is true - I'm not sure if the reasons are as the OP stated, but the banks will not give laser or credit card machines to head shops or sex shops.

CathalDublin

starbelgrade wrote: »

Again, it is true - I'm not sure if the reasons are as the OP stated, but the banks will not give laser or credit card machines to head shops or sex shops.

Are you serious:eek:
Any banks:eek:
I find this really hard to believe

generalmiaow

To my knowledge starting in late 2008 some head shops have been de facto banned from having laser/credit card machines but what the shop guy told the OP is the usual headshop bullcrap and exaggerated conjecture. don't believe anything they say while the current situation exists, even moreso than bankers. In all honesty the headshops were given no explanation for this "delay" in sending out terminals, the actual motivation for which is obviously more to do with publicity than morals - this is "bath salts" maneuvering.

Of course payment processers don't care where the money comes from, but they know they are dealing with a public that's naive enough to expect they do - for the same reason we the people think that some scarecrow in a bank somewhere unilaterally made an ill-informed decision to lend money to property developers as a policy

No party in this has any real accountability, although it's a pathetic move by the processors.

Wompa1

To bad mouth another bank. BOI are apparently going to off shore work being done in Ireland for their IT causing 200 jobs losses in HP Ireland. Anybody else pissed off that they'd offshore jobs during a recession in which those 200 people helped bail their lousy asses out?

Liam Byrne

Wompa1 wrote: »

Anybody else pissed off that they'd offshore jobs during a recession in which those 200 people helped bail their lousy asses out?

Yup. Have mentioned this elsewhere. If I was with BoI I'd go in and tell them I was "outsourcing" to RaboBank.

sbsquarepants

I used my aib banklink card to chop up a load of coke i bought one time, and the next day when i put it into the machine it said i had no money left.
Coincidence???:rolleyes:

Damn Bankers

Wompa1

Liam Byrne wrote: »

Yup. Have mentioned this elsewhere. If I was with BoI I'd go in and tell them I was "outsourcing" to RaboBank.

I was actually thinking that myself. I have a meeting with some woman in the bank next week because they want me to change from a graduate account. Now I'm going to show up and say I want to close my account. :-D

Run_to_da_hills

One would think that the authorities should be encouraging cashless transactions in these places as it is more transparent than dealing in hard cash.

Im all on for AIB removing them.

AnonoBoy

EGriff wrote: »

The guy behind the counter was talking absolute sh*te. The place never had a laser/credit card machine. Seriously, 99.999% of people going in there are gonna pay in cash and dart back out the door.. . . . . . IMO.

Yeah - they all have backdoors for darting out of. People walk in the front door and then dart out the back one.

Wouldn't they come in the back door too if they were worried about being seen?

generalmiaow

Wompa1 wrote: »

I was actually thinking that myself. I have a meeting with some woman in the bank next week because they want me to change from a graduate account. Now I'm going to show up and say I want to close my account. :-D

And those particular employees were originally from the bank as well, as of 7 years, and went on strike when they were outsourced to HP - and a few weeks later, since they were IT workers, the CEO of bank of Ireland resigned dut to certain adult content they found on his computer during a "routine check". The older ones are a part of HP I wouldn't mess with.

YFlyer

Augmerson wrote: »

So. I went into one of those Head Shops Joe Duffy & Co. are always going on about today to buy a glass pipe for a friend of mine whose birthday is coming up this week. I got up to the counter with the pipe I wanted and realised, hey, I've got no cash. Asked the guy behind the desk if I could pay with laser?

No. They had gotten their laser machine taken away by AIB because AIB disagreed on moral and ethical grounds on the Head shops business.

Let's take a moment to just think this over.

AIB. The bank that is getting millions, no billions of euro's from the taxpayers because they ****ed up big time disagree's with this places line of business. Is this not the biggest ****ing piss take ever?

I don't see AIB denying off-licenses or anwyhere that sells alcohol the use of Laser services or likewise anywhere that sells tobacco, yet they take away the laser service from a business that is actually making money during a recession.

Discuss.

Chill out Man

weldoninhio

AnonoBoy wrote: »

Yeah - they all have backdoors for darting out of. People walk in the front door and then dart out the back one.

Wouldn't they come in the back door too if they were worried about being seen?

The poster said "pay in cash and dart back out the door", as in, i went in the front door, paid cash and went back out the front door.